Was the Soviet Union in the 70s a more livable place than America?

>>257117203>>257117203>99% of it was a shithole

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>>257117350>whiteI mean sure, if Slavs are white then fine. But god damn there's a good bit of mongoloid up in that gene pool

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>>257117523>quoting a corrupt manlet owned by oligarchs

>>257117516>conservative authoritarianismkek. Lefties always turn their revolutionary failures into right-wing horrorshows. Now apparently the USSR is on the right.

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>>257117699>tf>tpSlavs are white you retard. You're posting pics of soldiers from Mongolia/Manchuria.

>>257117013Both places were very livable at the same time.But idiots here will have the image of depressed 1990s Russia, and think that the Soviet era was entirely like that.

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>>257117959>Both places were very livable at the same time.if you think Brezhnev-era ussr was "very livable" you're either a 70IQ chapo faggot and/or so fucking poor that it actually would be a step up for you.

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>>257117603>DUDE YOU CAN'T JUST FORM AN INDEPENDENT WORKERS REPUBLIC APART FROM THE CABAL OF INTERNATIONAL CORPORATE BANKING SYNDICATES, HOW WILL YOUR PEOPLE BE ABLE TO CONSUME OUR MALL FOOD COURT NUTRIENT PASTE COSMOPOLITAN PSEDUO CULTURE!?!?!?Go fuck yourself money worshipping mammonic nigger faggot

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>>257117851"White" just means mixed race mongrel. Slavs are Slav.

>>257117699Russia's hugePast the Ural mountains you have Asiatic and Turk people

Fucking Americans. They're the ones who did the ideological subversion and ruined the USSR.

>>257118437it is sad how Ukraine was a power house under the soviet union, and now it is just basically Mexico but without cartels beheading each other

>>257117796The Soviet Union was OBJECTIVELY more culturally conservative than America's disgusting Babylonian hedonistic excess and individualism.

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>>257118437Jews flipped and moved to the US. Soviet bankers left and took their wealth with them. It was a Faustian bargain for the US. We collapsed the Soviet Union at the cost of becoming slaves to the jewish bankers.

>>257118692The Soviet Union was bound to fail eventually anywayWhether the US sped up its decline is unimportant

>>257117013cherry picked parts of it were, most of it was not. 70s and 80s USSR society was just a giant prison keeping people from escaping. Everyone knew the lifestyle they could get in the west and could see foreign dignitaries visiting their cities and enjoying creature comforts and luxuries in special 'for foreigners only' hotels they weren't allowed to go in.

>>257117013Fuck. That's the cankle army. Wtf.

>>257117013Russia is currently better than it's ever been and it's still shit.

>>257118893basically this>>257117013Hungary and Yugoslavia were much better

>>257118913STRONGSLAVICANKLES

>>257118658And you're OBJECTIVELY redefining words to suit your coping purposes. Move to Cuba already faggot.

>>257118200>the USSR wasn’t a jewish run meat grinder to murder white christians en masseOK NIGGER

>>257118437It was Ukraine that pushed for the breakup of the Soviet Union.

>>257117013They didnt even have pocket calculators. Hell they didnt even have color cameras in the flippin 80s. Look at soviet footage of chernobyl its all black-and-white. And Ladas for petes sake.

>>257119426and now it is a shithole, i hope it was worth it for them

>>257119387>WTF, YOU CAN'T JUST USE TERMS OUTSIDE OF CURRENT YEAR AMERICAS CONNOTATIONS OF POLITICS, THE STAUNCH HUMBLE AND DIGNIFIED CULTURE OF SOVIET CITIZENS CAN'T BE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE THEY AREN'T CAPITALIST >>257119397SURE, I PERSONALLY KNOW THAT AMERICA CONSTANTLY PUSHES THE FACT THAT IT LIBERATED THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND DIRECTLY CREATED THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL AND ACTS AS IT'S GREATEST AND MOST LOYAL ALLY, AND I ALSO KNOW THAT EVERY NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST THE SOVIET UNION SUPPORTED OPPOSED ISRAEL BUT THE USSR IS DEFINITELY THE JEW PUPPET NOT AMERICA

>>257117013Balls in your face

>>257118893wow what kind of prison was that, that people want it back after 30 years of being ""free"" of communism

>>257117013Was 1950's China kino?

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>>257117357>the Soviet Union had a greater sense of principles and ideals for their cultureFunny you say that while posting unrealistic nonsense that was never actually built. The cathedral in this picture was demolished to make room for that thing. They ended up building a public swimming pool instead, which didn't even last very long before getting filled in. By the time the USSR fell, all that was left was a vacant lot. Some respect for culture and ideals.

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>>257120924Yes, just like it currently is

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>>257120294Why do you get so butthurt when people point out that communism is a failed ideology?

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>>257121043Blow it again btw

>>257118122It was literally the only 2 decades where people didn't live in a nightmare of civil war, gulags, world wars and later total collapse, hyper-capitalism, oligarchy etc... might be shit for Westerners compared to the rest of Russian history it was paradise and that is why no other era gets it's nostalgia dick sucked so much.

>>257121176T. Pedro living in a country where's nothing left to blow up.

>>257121043The extreme irony of an American saying this. Tell me which small town in the midwest you weren't willing to whore out to China leaving it in meth riddled destitution

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>>257120695>there are karens who enjoy living in communist nanny states and miss being able to report their neighbors for ideological crimesbig fucking surprise there mate.

>>257117350also no property, no freedom, no food

>>257121643literally not an argument

>>257121328This basically. But not even two full decades more like 10-15 years.

>>257121666>imagine not knowing that the USSR never had food problems after WW2>>257121719

>>257121152>DUDE, SURE HALF OF ALL AMERICANS BARLEY HAVE $900 IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT AND HAVE A SEVERE ADDICTION TO OPIATES OR ALCOHOL AND THE MAJORITY OF SMALL TOWNS AND CITIES ARE DECREPIT WASTE LANDS AFTER ALL THE MANUFACTURING WAS SOLD TO CHINA LEAVING FAST FOOD AND SCRAP BEHIND BUT THIS SYSTEM IS WORKING JUST GREAT

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>>257121328Maybe because it was completely superior compared to capitalist society?

>>257118658>Propaganda portraying a Kraut destroying the very institutions of his own nationVery Conservative.

>>257121068He's this close to throwing that arm up

>>257122116>DUDE, IF YOU AREN'T PROTECTING THE CORPORATE CAPITALIST CLASS EVEN IF YOU'RE POOR AS FUCK AND DON'T BENEFIT FROM THEIR RULE AT ALL YOU AREN'T A MANLY CONSERVATIVE LIKE ME, WHAT, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST FORM YOUR OWN FREE REPUBLIC FROM YOUR BOSSES MONEY INTERESTS OR SOMETHING!?!? WHO WILL PAY YOUR WAGE?????

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>>257121981No it was still shit. The USSR was boring as fuck. Imagine an entire country of NEETs but with barely any access to basic shit like bananas or good meat and everyone has to repeat the same commie gospel even tough everyone knows it's shit.Wait... I just described the EU. Huh.

>>257121868> no bread lines in the USSREvery day must have been Black Friday?

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>>257122538East Germany was best Germany btw

>>257118658Coob

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>>257122245Current Chinese militarism is aesthetic as fuck

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>>257117013Any place with no niggers is more liveable than the current nigger-infested West.

>>257122746>falling for the bread memeBread isn't food, and etymologically speaking the word "bread" originally referred to meat. You've already failed if you're not subsisting off of raw eggs, dairy and meat.

>>257123247The redpill is that the West is still the most livable regardless of all the world's shit being dumped on it from the start. South Africa is more livable than Russia.

From my mother who grew up in 70s-90s Moscow, essentially the NYC of the USSR>shitty 2-3 bedroom apartments divided between multiple families>stupidly long lines at the store, no variety of products>random goods would often literally just disappear off the shelves for months, for no reason>heat occasionally went out in the winter, again for no reason>nobody except millionaires could afford a car, even shitty Lada>little to no content on the TV/radio, if you were lucky enough to own one>western movies and music were occasionally smuggled in, but this was in relatively cosmopolitan Moscow>rampant alcoholism on par with late 1800s AmericaAgain, keep in mind this was the biggest and richest city in the USSR and they could barely maintain a standard of living in the 70s similar to post ww2 America, and outside of a handful such cities, 99% of the rest of it was like Borat type villages. USSR was also producing most of the world's petroleum at the time and had other massive quantities of resources. And the 1970s were the USSR's most prosperous years before it started to go downhill.So yes, it was technically "livable", but not a good place to live in even by 70s standards and certainly not by today's.

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>>257125790Why is it so shit?

>>257117013The USSR was horrifically dysgenic. The united states will become so because of the course it has decided to take.

>>257126820Central planning, I guess

>>257121884nobody reads capsfag posts go ahead and kys

>>257117013Look at all those fat ankles

>>257117013Only young people would believe this. If you were alive at that time you would know Russia was (and still is) a backwards shithole of a country.

>>257117013>nightmarish slavic commie shithole that threatened the world is better than AmericaGood one, genghis.

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>>257117013The picture looks like from 40s, or 50s.When Stalin was alive.

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>>257117357>literally the tower of babel with king kike on top

>>257122764Better than modern day Germany, but compared to the Third Reich it was nothing, but a kike controlled shithole absolutely fucking full of informants and self hating Marxist scum.They also had very shit helmets.

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>>257118274t. gomez

It's difficult for comparison because there is completely different value distribution system. For example: all my relatives got flats for good exactly in the 70's but formally the apartments weren't in their private property. They paid rent and services but it was tiny part of their wages. Water and gas meters never existed in the USSR.

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>>257117959Depends on how you define livable. the USSR was pretty nice in those years, freshly built and enthousiatic... but time has proven that you can't build a society on enthusiasm alone. The system decayed rapidly in the 80s.That being said, my family lived there in the 20s and 80s and it was objectively a nice place.. well if you were in one of the cool cities. No unemployement, no crime, plenty of leisure time.. But you can't simply cherry pick a decade, it's unrepresentative of the decades of terror prio and the decades of economic and social ruin that followed.

>>257117013because of a parade?

>>257122746It's not a bread line, stupid idiot! All those old women have nothing to do after their retirement.So they waste their time and roubles buying different commodities. I still don't know how to get rid of all these things my grandma bought.

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>>257132050It just proves that only economically illiterate morons idolize the system when the so called "golden age" of communism was so brief and unsustainable. My country was a shitshow too but in the 70s there was a period of comparative prosperity... built off loans taken from rich Western countries. It's no surprise that the 80s was a time of crisis with only vinegar in the stores. Communism would've fallen even if there were no active efforts to end it.

>>257117699>image of asian pow used by Russia Wtf Germans are mongoloid too?

>>257125790>>nobody except millionaires could afford a car, even shitty Ladafalse. the pathetic soviet 'auto industry' literally couldn't produce enough cars to satisfy demand - there were no shortage of potential buyers.

>>257118122Eбaть ты, мyдaк!

>>257122746With gov controlled prices, so very low, yes.

>>257117699If someone doesn't know that guy is a Mongolian volunteer. After Germany these guys fought against Japanese Empire in China. It's said Mongolia wasn't included in USSR because of their slit eyes. (I joked. Other reasons).

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>>257117013No not the 70’s. The 50’s & 60’s. It was falling to shit in the late 70’s.

>>257133556Um, that's exactly what he's saying. But yeah, there was shit Westerners will never understand like used cars costing more than new ones. Why? Even if you could buy a new car, it was on a long waiting list. A used car was available immediately.

Those pictures are a distortion. Most people barely scraped by

>>257117523>said by a trillionaire to people eating from garbage cans

>>257134057What are the other reasons?

>>257134057That’s the Manchurian in your pic. He trained the candidate.

Yes, absolutely. I grew up in a completely white neighborhood and ran around freely as a kid even in the late 80s. It wasn't glamorous but it was safe and wholesome.

Then in the 80’s we had Michael Jackson and Rocky and they had endless rows of cabbage fields and alcoholics drinking potato alcoholm.youtube.com/watch?v=dsUXAEzaC3Q

>>257132643After being completely in rubble from 2ww it took some time to rebuild into prosperity - just to be destroyed with usury. No economy ever will sustain 18% usury from loans it has - capitalist Mexico, etc got screwed the same way in the same time, and whole world had debt problems. It wasn't our economy, they lie to society about the reasons we had troubles.

>>257118820Capitalism self-corrects. Communism will fail sooner rather than later (I still wonder how the USSR manage to last for 74 years tho).

>>257133556False. They built public transport first. It was a choice.

>>257132643How the hell was Poland allowed to borrow money from the west?

>>257134595>Capitalism self-correctsIs this satire?

>>257134088If you had money. And the new one was almost free. If i told you right now you will get a free new car, just wait 3 years, you would jump out of joy.

>>257117013Ya probably anytime after the cultural revolution of the late 60s took hold in the west the kikes abandoned communism and put all there eggs in the capitalist west. Result being formerly commie (or even commie holdout) countries are more homogeneous and less socially degenerate/gay then western nations. Stil poor asf though but id take it.

>>257134177They all had syphilis. You know they are nomads and have an interesting tradition: if you're a guest the homeowner offers you his wife. It's important against incest.

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>>257120695> people want it back Where ?

>>257134722Freddie Mercury was your leader at the time. Solidarity. Lech Wallesa (?) there’s no way I’m spelling that.m.youtube.com/watch?v=JU5LMG3WFBwIt was a terrible time to be east of ... Washington DC. Shitty everywhere.

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>>257134844Just new-speak. Call bad things good, and voila, no bad things.

>>257134190yes, it's just a random pic

>>257117013Ha Ha Ha Ha...HAHAHAHAhAHAHAHA

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>>257134727The Eastern Bloc was not some glorious self-sustaining economic zone completely isolated the West. Even the USSR was dependent on Western imports. Russia was never pleasant to live but they went from producing the most food in the world without industry during the Tsar to importing grain under the USSR.>>257134945I'm so excited about a car that's decades behind anything in the West. People only found that acceptable because they had nothing else.>>257134722Gee, I wonder why Western countries had both then.

>>257135138majority of russians

>>257117699In fairness, this dude probably wasn't even a Russian Steppe person, probably an outright Mongolian or central asian.

>>257135479in fairness tsarist russia was exporting food even as it suffered famines and the reason the soviets started importing grain was to feed livestock for a megameat diet instead of just buying the meat which would've been cheaper

>>257117013How about 10 years later - 80's?"When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people," Yeltsin wrote. "That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it."nhregister.com/neighborhood/bayarea/news/article/When-Boris-Yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-Clear-5759129.php

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>>257135790Who need these thousand cans of shit if you're unable to cover your ally as Yugoslavia? It's a shame to be a political impotent and eat that trash.

>>25711767499% of mexico is a shithole today

>>257135790>"When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people," Yeltsin wrote. "That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it."Absolute retard. Doomed to fail. Agricultural revolution was one of the biggest setbacks ever. The only foods responsible for our growth and development are raw eggs, dairy and meat. Everything else is pointless and a complete waste of space and resources.

>>257135760As I said, Russia was never a pleasant place to live in. There's a reason a revolution was able to happen there in the first place. The USSR had pathetic output for a country its size and meat was a luxury eaten once a week at best, once a month at worst. Yeah, people didn't starve post WW2 times but it's a meager existence. Most of communist diet consisted of bread and potatoes.

>>257117013yes and also our country. god i hate westerners and the retards that sold our country to them

>>257117013>>257117203>>257117350>>257117516>>257117603>>257117699

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>>257117013>fell for KGB propaganda photosWatch the talk Yuri Bezemenov have to the audience (well, watch both his videos).He explains every one of these photos.

>>257121884Nobody but you cares about your strawman. Pay attention to what is actually being said.

>>257137028Middle class doesn't exist in the classical politeconomy. You are either a employe or employer. The third thing is a trap invented by bourgeoisie to distract the working class from its struggle.

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>>257135479No economy is. And they imported for a white when the concentrated on heavy industry - later it paid off.Those designs were bought from the west and built there too.So did we, just no mass personal debt for all that stuff.

>>257136669It was like that everywhere. Read up how poor people used engine oil for cooking in USA.

>>257137194>Yuri Bezemenovdid you really fall for the obvious CIA disinfo? lol @ u

>>257117516Did you forget to change your memeflag?

>>257138497The West thrived on trade and innovation. The Eastern Bloc had almost no innovation whatsoever (any that could be put to practical use, anyway) and depended on outdated Western shit that was mostly stolen and couldn't be produced efficiently anyway.You must be a delusional boomer or no older than 19. Probably the latter because the former at least can't speak English.

>>257139019>CIAPost proofI only hear this from tankies, but never any evidence, it must be something they come to the conclusion to(in their own circles), because that's what they want to believe.

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