Give me a detailed rundown of why Capitalism is bad, and why Communism is better

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

Give me a detailed rundown of why Capitalism is bad, and why Communism is better.

Imagine you are explaining this to your Uncle Albert at the dinner table, who loves freedom but has no understanding of politics.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921–22
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Samuel Martin
Samuel Martin

loves freedom
then there is no hope for him

Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett

It's no use to explain an entirely abstract question to an entirely abstract Uncle Adam.

The biggest problem with capitalism is that it is unstable and unsustainable, so it cannot be a final destination of humanity. The next question arises is where we go from there.

Logan Lee
Logan Lee

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Christian Bennett
Christian Bennett

unstable and unsustainable
How

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

quora.com/What-testable-predictions-does-the-Labor-Theory-of-Value-make

Elijah Thomas
Elijah Thomas

quora.com/Does-crystal-healing-really-work-How-do-you-use-it

Chase James
Chase James

Very funny. The top answer is quite good, and has further sources as well.

Noah Morris
Noah Morris

Just tell your uncle "I'm a 20-some-year-old faggot who thinks his engorged brain is fit to bursting with good notions and I'm pretty sure that if you and everyone else just bends over and takes it in the ass while doing all the dying and heavy lifting for our revolution then things will be just peachy keen for you afterward because you're a brainlet and I'm a genius."

You'll really knock it outta the park.

Logan Diaz
Logan Diaz

But I'm not even in the CIA.

Joseph Cruz
Joseph Cruz

Huh, sounds alot like capitalism.

Jackson Rivera
Jackson Rivera

bend over
Why does everything revolve around sex

Brody Cruz
Brody Cruz

I would ask your dirty analogues from the 60s that managed to destroy the whole world by the ripe age of 30.

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Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

I don't want indentured servitude (loans, interest, rent) and I'd like a future with white Christmases (the polar ice caps existing and I don't have to leave the US).

That's one nice way I could put it. However, he's going to give me bs about how loans are "voluntary" and global warming is a "jewish lie".

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

They became fantastic capitalists in the 80s. Hippies were also a small part of the baby boomer generation.

Austin Nelson
Austin Nelson

Communism leads to freedom with joy
Capitalism leads to freedom with constant greed
Pretty easy tbh.

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

I'm pretty sure your two statements are slightly at odds with each other.

Don't be silly. Nobody spent their 20s being a faggot pinko and then embraced Rand.

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Connor Barnes
Connor Barnes

liberals in their 20s became liberals in their 40s
shocking

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Jack Hall
Jack Hall

managed to destroy the whole world by the ripe age of 30.

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Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

Okay, I lied. The world is doing just fine.

Follow my INSTA!

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Daniel Mitchell
Daniel Mitchell

This. It's essential to despise happiness and freedom, and to be prepared to say goodbye to your toothbrush and bourgeois "human values".

James Wood
James Wood

something something personal property isn't the same as private property…something something small boojie…something something nuclear explosion…something something…

Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

This sounds exactly like my libertarian brother.

Evan Baker
Evan Baker

I agree with your image. But your statement is wrong. Hippies were indeed not a large part of boomer youth in the sixties, They may not have all grown up to be Patrick Bateman, but they were effectively the same just with a friendlier exterior. There is no material difference between Hillary and Trump. They are both attempting the same goal, but with different language.

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

Communism is a variant of capitalism.
Full free market capitalism will result in an almost identical scenario to communism. The same bankers who funded the Capitalist allies also funded the Communist soviets. Only a retard would try to refute this.

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Lucas Cox
Lucas Cox

Hippies destroyed the world
Kekiddykek how are you Nixon?

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

Don't start defending Clinton around me, I'm trying to have a semi-civil discussion.

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Levi Richardson
Levi Richardson

defending Clinton
wdhmbt?

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

Nobody spent their 20s being a faggot pinko and then embraced Rand.
Seriously? Burger rightists will usually tell you that they used to be a leftist before they "grew up".

Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

Hippies, beatniks, hedonists…How am I wrong?

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Evan Myers
Evan Myers

Fuck off /pol/

Justin Martin
Justin Martin

What does "grew up" mean to you if you don't take it at face value?

I'm here to learn. Yay learning!

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Zachary Wilson
Zachary Wilson

You guys come to our board all day everyday…constantly interrupting our Bible Studies and portfolio comparisons!

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

I don't see where I was defending Clinton. Keep your preconceived notions out of this. She has nothing to do with communism.

Asher Ramirez
Asher Ramirez

Yes it was the hippies that caused consumer culture undermining morals, not porkies trying to make a buck.

Jason Gutierrez
Jason Gutierrez

Would Nixon at least not deny global warming?

Ryder Cook
Ryder Cook

Only because you come to our board and interrupt our Torah studies.

Camden Peterson
Camden Peterson

Yes, I remember that perfectly good people would have a gun put to their head until they divorced their husbands and lived in a van down by the river. I remember when I, personally, wasn't going to buy a pair of Nikes, but the CEO sent his mercenary army to lay siege to my home. How will we ever stop making these people money?!?!

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Aiden Rodriguez
Aiden Rodriguez

People in the sixties were afraid of nuclear war, not hippies, whom were mostly well-off college age adults doing drugs in public. Conservative people just shoot up in private and lie about it.

As in they bought into the culture war nonsense like most other politically active Americans, even though actual American politics are two center-right parties arguing about wedge issues.

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

Here, some faggot boiled that shit down for you.

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William Green
William Green

The American™ Dream® is unaffordable by most now. This is due to capitalism, it is more profitable to not pay people a living wage, allow housing values to go way up, export manufacturing jobs, lend money with high interest rates, and spread propaganda that it success is purely egalitarian in capitalism.

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

Tbf AGW wasn't known back then but inimagine he would.
Kek, mass pop culture gets commercialised out the arse, it was the admen selling sex, not the hippies.
Also tbf deindustrialisation caused by neoliberalism hasnits part too, even fucking Norman Tebbit agrees on that.

Brayden Baker
Brayden Baker

communism is hippies and alinsky
are you a literal amerimutt boomer?

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Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

I wish the other center-right party didn't want to tax my income to the sun, to disarm me, AND ban Mt. Dew and Doritos.

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Christopher Price
Christopher Price

I, personally, wasn't going to buy a pair of Nikes, but the CEO sent his mercenary army to lay siege to my home.

Do you think, that we think that is exactly how this shit works? Marketers are way more effective than you think. Also patents, artificially high barriers to entry are part of the reasons why most industries are dominated by huge multinational companies. Also that image calls Trump a communist.

Luke Parker
Luke Parker

The footnote of your pic is a flat out lie. Alinsky was a New Left reformist faggot and his book was published in 1971 for other reformist faggot protestors: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
If you think I am trying to sell you on the Democrats over the Republicans, you seriously need to lurk moar.

Jack Martinez
Jack Martinez

The fact that I can’t tell if he’s talking about Dems or Repubs says a lot

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

regulation is bad for everyone on a cosmic scale

I know. I know. There's no patent office in Ancapistan.

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Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

Most of that money is for the military and social security you won't collect as they continue to sell off and cut all social services while people make less and work more. Our infrastructure is shit and the best idea we have is to privatize more so we can have it deteriorate more. Look at ISPs they have no interest in upgrading their networks, not profitable enough.

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

have you ever noticed how the economy collapses on the dot every ten years

wouldn't it be nice if, Not That

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

didn't want to tax my income to the sun, to disarm me
reagan wanted both of these things and other republicans would absolutely support them if it meant more votes
this is ignoring the fact that conservatives in both parties intentionally fuck with government process so much with bullshit like superfluous drug tests and shutdowns that the sheer inefficiency is costing you more tax dollars
and the fact that waging war overseas at all times isn't free

Dylan Walker
Dylan Walker

Ancapistan will be a slightly worse version of America for the average American. It would be great if you are a billionaire.

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

Just gotta say, love that this dead thread was picked up again by some retarded newfag convinced that the democrats are communists and hippies are responsible for america turning shit. Willing to bet they're a r/thedonald boomer who wound up here from their daily dose of 4/pol/ posting.

Jaxon Price
Jaxon Price

just gotta say

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Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

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Austin Stewart
Austin Stewart

Literally every existing phrase in language is reddit

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

In collectivism there is no freedom

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

Precisely the reason why all collectivists/rightists must be liquidated.

Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

god damn Wolff really does know how to give normies the 101

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

Back to Youtube comments with you

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Bentley Evans
Bentley Evans

Wolff's rhetoric is probably the most effective pitch for socialism that can be mustered in America. Outside of a food crisis or something where we should probably just start speaking like Lenin.
Leave all the marxist vocabulary at the door, at least in the beginning, and just start talking about how much everyone's fucking job sucks. If they start to feel socialism there, at the workplace, they'll come around to production as a whole.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

OK, what is your alternative? Working for a state or commune? No thanks!

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

You already work for someone regardless, in socialism at least you are provided the opportunity to work and as well as equal and calculated compensation for that work. To re-post something I said before:
The difference is that capitalism doesn't actually enable self-sufficiency or provide merit based compensation. In capitalism compensation is determined by how far an employer can drive it down to within the confines of the market, while in socialism he is compensated a non-transferrable labour voucher equal to the work done and the product produced. The worker is also completely dependent on a bourgeoisie to allow him to work on his property and his means of production, in this system a worker cannot obtain self-sufficency. The hierarchies which emerge from capitalism are not strictly individually merit based or determined by work performed but are instead determined by profit maximization and ownership of property or production as well as surplus extraction and reinvestment. Hierarchy and even "offensive" attitudes outside that of the economic matters very little as that hierarchy has no economic force which can be used against you, your always in control of your own labour while in capitalism even your ability and means to perform your labour can be denied from you.

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Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

Guess these people were professional cannibals before a bunch of jews and intellectuals thought crashing their economy with bo survivors was a good idea.

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Carson Ross
Carson Ross

why Communism is better

Marx and Engels were gay lovers and Communism could only be understood in the context of love between two men.

Isaiah Thompson
Isaiah Thompson

It's the same communal spirit and logic of "the family" but applied to everyone everywhere.

Nathan White
Nathan White

strawmanning after being proved wrong

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Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

Yeah, who heard of there being famines in the middle of civil wars, commies BTFO

Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

Crashing the economy
Photo from the famine of 1922
Your posting a photo from a famine which was caused from economic disturbances which originated from WW1 and the inner conflicts which occurred after it as well as environmental conditions and weather. The effects that would result in the famine were already occurring under the Tsar, a leadership and system that the people were already starving under.
The famine resulted from combined effects of economic disturbance—which had already started during World War I, and continued through the disturbances of the Russian Revolution—and Russian Civil War with its policy of War Communism, especially prodrazvyorstka, exacerbated by rail systems that could not distribute food efficiently. The famine's primary causes were due to severe flooding in the Volga region in 1921, as well as the exacerbation of the Russian Civil War.
One of Russia's intermittent droughts in 1921 aggravated the situation to a national catastrophe. Hunger was so severe, it was doubtful that seed-grain would be sown rather than eaten. At one point, relief agencies had to give grain to railroad staff to get their supplies moved
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1921–22
Understand as well that prodrazvyorstka was done because everyone was starving already from things the soviets hadn't even done and food had to be redistributed to mitigate the extreme effects of the famine in the cities and urban areas who did not grow food.
And before you mention Holdomor, because I know you will, watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=mUEi7v2TMpQ
And if you use the Black book, I don't even have to respond because you'll be debunking yourself.

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Wyatt Parker
Wyatt Parker

No, in Capitalism you have freedom to decide and work, and you can make profit and keep your own fruits. In Communism you have to give it away to a commune or stae

Jordan Mitchell
Jordan Mitchell

No, in Capitalism you have freedom to decide and work, and you can make profit and keep your own fruits.

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Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

So, this board is truly showing it's true colors…

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

As socialists?

Aaron Garcia
Aaron Garcia

Burger freedom is not really freedom, hell the veneer of freedom is even being threatened by populists like trump.

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Juan White
Juan White

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Eli Reed
Eli Reed

No, in Capitalism you have freedom to decide and work, and you can make profit and keep your own fruits.
No, you don't. Your labour is entirely determined by market forces and the operations of capitalists which are above you. Even as self-employed your work is entirely dependent on currently established capitalists not undercutting you or forcing you out of your market and the laws you follow are determined by those who currently hold more profit and influence then you. The majority of the populace do not have the resources or option to be self-employed and so must work for someone else, otherwise the economy and especially industrialized economy as you know it simply wouldn't operate. These are inevitabilites of the system and there is no way around them within capitalism. What makes you think the people at the very top, those in control of industry and with access to vast amounts information and calculated algorithm would ever allow profit to go unchecked or ever allow themselves to fall to your level? If you ever were in a position to deny them measurable and noticable profit, they would simply flick their wrists and either buy you up or force you out. You are where you are because it was deemed by others that you could be there, by the measure of comfort that they held with your existence. The market incentivises all methods towards profit and those that use them and get away with it, make it.

Eli Green
Eli Green

How?

Chase Miller
Chase Miller

you can just pick a job and walk into it in capitalism
man someone really ought to let all these out of work people know that

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

dat pic
Who is this slut?