Why does Holla Forums hate Nazis? I am not talking about drumpfsbergs or ironic meme nazis, but real Not Socialists...

Why does Holla Forums hate Nazis? I am not talking about drumpfsbergs or ironic meme nazis, but real Not Socialists. They are SOCIALIST and implement a lot of the actual useful leftist ideas. They support decentralization, same as you. Please don't tell me
Even ancoms had Buenaventura Durruti. Most here agree that there has to be an authority that can keep it all together.

The only difference I can see is that Nazis aren't afraid to be racist if it helps their people, and that they do support a strong family dynamic + don't "empower" their men to turn into women. Please enlighten me how that's not the case.

They're always invariably corporate cocksuckers :^)

fucking hell, not this shit again

There's a reason for that word filter, ya know.

niggas want me dead

They have no clear ideology, they latch onto whatever is convenient, and it was lead by someone who consistently scammed them, ordered assassinations of people he didn't like in the arts for bullshit like "degeneracy" for daring to draw the human form nude, and basically was a fuckwit who came to the top pretending to be poor and wanted a worker's revolution with his left meanwhile bought fucking luxury and expensive property cars and privatized and nationalized with his right.

Also ethnic cleansing is retarded.

Naziism is everything fucking wrong you could do if you want an actual worker's movement, relying only on identity politics and liberal hysterics to promote its own vague agenda that can change on a dime.

I'm not talking about Hitlerism. You can say any Socialist nation can become a corporate cocksucker, just look at China. I'm talking about the concept itself, which is similar to nazbols. If it's any easier, then perhaps the better question is why are nazbols hated here?

It's too vague and not concrete enough for their to be an actual succeccful movement behind it because most of it is just identity politics that hurts the worker. There has only been one attempt at it, and that's basically all we can go on since the work documenting its ideology came from its beginning and ending

And all of it is basically contradictory. People naturally end up getting attracted to it because they feel "society is degenerate" "muh identity", Even if there was some sort of political movement that was pure and innocent and for a better world for the worker, it's proponents would still be stupid enough to fuck it up.

Trump supporters are not "Nazis". Now fuck off with you pathetic trolling.

Because unironic Nazbols would be an oxymoron. You can't want a classless society and think you deserve better than another class. Also no one in a socialist party is going to have any use for memelords.

Because it's a scheme of poisoning the working people with idpol and driving them away from revolution, funded by the rich and executed by the would-be rich petite bourgs. It's a confusing mixture of all petite bourg fears and frustrations, first and foremost the eternal petite-bourg fear of losing what little wealth they have and falling into proletariat. Proletariat has nothing to lose, only to gain.

So it's basically IDpol that is the problem. I assume Asserism would be met with the same type of vitriol, even though the anti-Capitalist, pro-worker sentiment would be mutual. I can't help but find this genuinely saddening, because these two groups have incredibly similar goals and yet dislike each other over, basically, what to do with jews. As far as I understood it.

Lenin allowed private property as well.
Lenin accepted donations from the bourgeoisie leftists.
Lenin was himself a low level nobleman.

What do the proletariat have to gain from communism?

Idpol and whatever is conveniently degenerate at any point in time. Identity politics does not help the worker, it splits the worker apart. We aren't here to provide one race a safe space from spooky scary non whites and offensive material; we're here to help labor and fight austerity and confront the powers that be.

And it is a lot more than idpol, nazism is confused and vague enough that it can suck up actual worker revival by preying on the emotions of the working class despite in the end being against their own interests. A more extreme form of reformism around hysterics.

Its WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE not "Germans of the world unite".
Also, the Nazi fucks where "socialist" in the same way that National Syndicalists where "syndicalist". Just to fool working class people to support them and their bullshit ideology that serves no-one but the bourgeoisie and petty-bourgeoisie.

A world where the artist doesn't have to struggle for his art, a world where the worker does not have to worry about going broke and selling his home, a world where property value does not define quality of life, etc etc etc etc we can go on all night.

To me, these ideologies should be allied since they try to achieve the same rough end result, minus or plus a few jews and transexuals.

While I understand your point of view better now, it's personal experience that convinces me one is better than the other. I dislike this needless division, but there's nothing I can do about it to convince you unless you experience it for yourself, namely that race is real and empowering harmful habits just destabilizes people, real people. Thanks a lot for your time, I'll read some more leftist books at least.

Nobody cares nazi

Innocent workers get killed by Nazis for no reason outside of their bloodline, so no, the division isn't needless, it's absolutely clear and needed that the movement which eliminates wage labor differentiates itself from the movement which eliminates wage laborers because their leader is a methhead who believes in magic and cosmic ice.

Unlike you, we don't worship him, perhaps admire him and take after some of his teachings, but we don't base our entire worldview around what he did exactly, unlike nazifags.

Do you get kicks out of pretending that your admiration is any different from NutSac admiration? Only LARPers base their entire worldview around Hitler, true NutSacs dislike Hitlerism to begin with. I also find it hilarious how Stra-sserism is world filtered here, but Hitlerism isn't.

Damn Holla Forums, why must you be so hysteric that you have to censor any words you don't like, making conversation needlessly dismissive?

Well, no. Even being generous they weren't socialist in much of a meaningful sense beyond the name.

More importantly, as a movement fascism exists to choke out the things which by and large make life worth living, baked with an inchoate rage at and desire to eliminate the freedom inherent in human experience.

I have never met a Nazi that wanted a society without private property. If you're that Nazi then get to reading. If not then kill yourself.