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So is it still possible to travel to 'a trillion US bases in Syria' now that the border with Iraqi Kurdistan has been shutdown?
Are they completely cut off?
Probably go through PKK controlled mountains. Pretty sure that's how they've been getting across so far.
rojava
Based
rojava
the KRG still holds a border crossing with Syria, and also yes, it is impossible to travel there unless you're going through Turkey,
If Body Odor had made the Wordfilter "Based Rоjava", it would've been taken as a funny joke by everyone instead of the Τankie butthurt meltdown about not being able to abort this thread that it was.
R*java is nothing but utopians being used to carve up the middle east so the modern geopolitical powers can all have their slice when the day of reckoning comes to anarkiddies' little fantasy land
":Look! He posted it again"
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Now that's what I call Anti-imperialism.
What's wrong? Is the objective truth too edgy for you?
Long deunked bullshit
DFSNS isnt a "kurdish ethnostate"
DFSNS isnt a "seperatise entity"
All that DFSNS wishes is for a Federation of Syria and autonomy within that Syria to practice democratic confederalism
Board owner still having their fun i see
Tankie spergouts aside, what about the likely prospects for ᎠFNFЅ in the future. Will Assad be able to unlimber enough manpower to directly threaten ᎠFNFЅ, or will there be enough persistent threats (possibly just over the border rather than inside Syria itself) to make war against ᎠFNFЅ too vulnerable? Will the Turks be removed, along with any other potential threat such as Iran or Iraq, giving ᎠFNFЅ more breathing room? If arrangements between Assad and ᎠFNFЅ becomes more concrete, how far would Assad be able to bend things back before ᎠFNFЅ responded with force?
There's an El Rōjava general, do we move to that
pls dont make hydra threads.
lets continue on here
*click*
Noice
But this thread was created before that one.
and on that day not a single argument was to be found
what the fuck is going on near the occupied zone
Shit picture
The original caption to the picture was the Hellenistic tradition. I'd imagine Durruti is included because of the Friends of Durruti
Actions speak louder than words.
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Israel is spooked about the SAA "accidently" sending an army to retake Golan: which by law is theirs. The SAA has an an immensely experienced army now: one that could take Israel.
Everything coming out the Rоjavа, the SAA and Russia indicates there will be talks about how to integrate Rоjаvа into Syria in a mutal manner. Considering Russia is backing this, the place is safe mate.
The question is what the fuck happens to the Turkish occupied zone?
Haha, my workaround is solid.
I just hope it is doesn't turn into another 'Northern Cyprus'
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Notice how the picture is labeled "libertarian socialist" and not anarchist.
As much as I like the idea of Israel getting what's coming to them, armies eventually hit a point of fatigue. There is such a thing as too much "experience" .
What does that mean?
"Libertarian" was just a fancy way of saying anarchist.
Not necessarily? Deleon has been described as a libertarian socialist despite being Marxist. Words evolve over time you know
now thats what i call cognitive bias
syria wont be making a move on the golan till iran gives a green light or till israel tries to invade lebanon (again)
Rojava Rojava YPG. Assad is a war criminal.
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cry some more burger newfag
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get barelbombed newfag
you have no power here burger
That banner makes me cringe a little.
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Name of 3rd guy in pic related's leftist lineup? Saw that face in a BadMouseProductions video a while back…
Thx, m8.
stay classy BO
Blow it out your ass
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NOICE
Just to rub it in America's face
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Not yet, ISIS still holds on to the city. They repelled an attack but tbh it's as good as done
this
On the bright side I still have my Wobbly flag
Crimea river
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I suppose this applies to aid to FSA/HTS/ISIS
First as tragedy, then as farce.
The absolute state of the Wahhabi rebels.
source pls.
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but you burger liberals support the american proxy war
besides, you could just replace that picture with barzani or whoever leads the kurd militias and it fires back on you
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You sound like you know a lot about the middle east.
no, im just triggering millenial burgers.
What do I mean by politics? I go back first of all to the Greek meaning of politics. I'm not talking of statecraft; statecraft is operating as a party within the state with the view toward having control of the state. When I use the word politics, I go back to the original Hellenic meaning of the word polis, the Athenian polis. - Bookchin
Come on leftypol, I thought you were smarter than that.
and while where at it, I should mention no one has ever found any order signed by Hitler authorizing the holocaust, and eye witness accounts have been contradictory in numerous ways. Really makes you think what imperialist propaganda is telling you.
by supporting the leader of a capitalist state and Russian imperialism
Damn really got those neurons firing my friend
we'll just cross that river, and capture some more oil for socialism
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sorry for hurting your feelings
more socialist that Bashar al Assad ever was or likely will be be.
My feelings aren’t the issue. The fact that you are a closeted Holla Forumsyp shitposting and shilling for a capitalist state is, as it goes against the board rules. BO recommends we report such behaivor
Wait, did BO seriously take away the y.p.g. flag. How can someone be so butthurt
most of BO's reasoning isn't that she's unsympathetic to the cause of the People's Protection Units, but that she believes them to be naive, doomed to failure by the inevitable betrayl at the hands of the state dept, a mad cabal of sheiks, the Kremlin, etc.
No, his delusion runs deeper. He thinks that the mere presence of socialist parallel power in Syria will deal such a crippling blow to the Ba'athist government, that it will inevitably send Syria toppling into the same state of disorder as Iraq, ignoring the fact that most of the blame for the civil war in Syria falls squarely on Assad's shoulders, with substantial US meddling only happening long after his crackdowns had pushed things past the point of no return. Also, that the ᎠFNFЅ is an American puppet, in spite of the fact it has Russian forces based within it, much like Assad's Russian puppet regime.
R*java wouldn't even be a thing without America at this point. They got bailed out a couple of years back. When America leaves they will diminish.
Just like Assad would've been steamrolled years ago if he hadn't glued his lips to Putin's ass? The present is what matters, and since ISIS is a dead man walking, while basically none of the FSA cares about ᎠFNFЅ, the end of US backing wouldn't hurt ᎠFNFЅ much.
A more interesting question, IMHO, is Turkey and Iraq/KRG, all three of which are on rocky terms with Assad and ᎠFNFЅ alike, though they have a worse history with ᎠFNFЅ.
And yet we have ancap, anfem, and fed flags…
Better yet, notice all the anarcho flags other than ancom and ayncrap have been renamed to spread them across the alphabet? Also, armchair flag but no egotist or posadaist flags. ☹
ftfy
truly the glory of socialism
inferior version
must be why you feel the urgent need to adress my "shitposts" as you put it
thats a strange way to say "the US"
you mean syria as a country
which was the point of the US supporting an alphabet soup of terrorists
(citation needed)
pdf related :)
>those areas include and ARE limited to: _
see
yes, exactly like that.
russia saw the US was picking a cold war again and needed allies.
the US saw the "F""S""A" scheme failed and needed new proxies.
noone said it would.
but it would hurt the US.
you didnt pose a question, unless you meant the future of those in general.
erdogan will try to play ottoman2.0 and think he can hustle both russia and the US because they all want him on their side, but will end up getting bogged down in some frozen conflict and negotiation talks.
who are the islamists first in order of mention?
more a prediction of what'll happen soon enough
like who?
FSA is gone, iraqi shias will never side with the US, and the last sunni threat to them was IS which will not get a sequel for atleast half a decade
if the US doesn't find one the US will MAKE one
Its like the B O is trying to drive people away or something.
The only one that makes sense is the wobbly one which was always near the bottom
can you even understand the question?
I saw some fag wearing a over a dozen US military bases in Syria pin at my uni.
I'm gonna flat his bike tires to teach that dumb anarkkidy a lesson
Not the same one but ehh…
The *FNFS is not a US puppet this has been long established
redundant really.
just call him an imperialist and a crypto-neocon
just as the VC werent a soviet puppet.
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There's no need for such worthless sectarianism.
I'd say the two of you have more in common than apart and one catches more flies with honey than vinegar, as they say…
tankies are fucking pathetic holy shit.
yes. If there's no sunni threat the US will make a sunni threat
not against the over a dozen US military bases in Syria.
theres absolutely no good reason for them to do so.
feels good man, and B.O. is mad.
They actually believe that D F.NS is a crypto-Assadist puppet of the Syrian government.
who the fuck are they?
Wait I posted the wrong image for the fourth one.
Sputnik is a Russian news agency owned by another Russian news agency which in turn is owned by the Russian government.
it's a good image regardless
bbc.co.uk
pick one liberals
A similar thing happened in Western Qalamoun between Hezbollah and ISIS.
southfront.org
except that noone autistically screeched and denied it there.
this thread was on full autist mode when raqqa deal was happening
No it wasn't.
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STOP SUPPORTING US IMPERIALISM
Socialism will not come through US interventionism. Either the Kurdish revolution is self-sustainable and vigilant, in which case it can defend itself without being propped up as an US proxy, or it is not.
Kurds: we're literally allowing the US to colonize Syria in exchange for political support and we're crafting alliances that will allow them to perpetuate their interventions in the Middle-East just fyi
Anarkiddies: oh come on, that's just being pragmatic. Was it also "imperialism" when the U.S. gave money to the Soviet Union in WW2? It's the same thing!
Serious question to over a dozen US military bases in Syria supports, is a few cooperatives and female "soldiers" worth the destruction of Syria? How can you call yourselves leftist, this is essentially virtue signalling, a few pointless gestures.
Usually they answer that with "oh so I guess you LOVE Assad and he is a REAL SOCIALIST to you huh?!" over a dozen US military bases in Syria supporters are dipshits
How is a parallel subregion pushing for federalization under which it can pursue socialism, while the Assad regime persists to the extent its people don't vote to be annexed "the destruction of Syria"?
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it will allow for us influence, and they wont stop till they get their damn pipeline.
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Well fuck i guess Assad is a russian imperialist puppet i guess we need support the Brave moderate beheaders of the FSA against him ehh?
Private property is literally enshrined on its constitution and they're supported by the biggest capitalist power in the world, any illusion that this is a socialist revolution should have been long gone by now, and even they were indeed a Socialist project it doesn't mean you can allow yourself to be a puppet and a proxy for a foreign capitalist power. Saying they're justifying in taking land that isn't theirs by right or by ethnical affiliation (as most living under their government are now Arabs, not Kurds) because they're more left-leaning than Assad is the same logic of neocons who think Israel deserves uncritical support because hey, "the only democracy in the middle east!".
The agenda of using Kurds to split secularist-nationalist regimes was already used in Iraq and elsewhere step-by-step, and just because these kurds are now leftists it doesn't make it any less of an imperial project. The US may even be happier now, as since "socialism" and their federalism will help fragment power in Syria and make the entire region easier to influence. And here's a tip: if your political project fits like a glove on a capitalist global power's agenda in your regional, it's time to rethink things.
Trotskyists actually follow that logic.
Hopeful it transfers to a socialist Mode of production once the situation is less critical and needs less pragmatism
Using that logic the SU was a US imperialist puppet and we should have supported NS germans against US imperialism
See the above point
Thats some spooked thinking
Then its a good thing that its a multi-ethnic project the
Good thing it isnt a nationalist project then
The rest of the shit was here just more debunked "Muh imperialism" stuff
Yeah let's just give away a fifth of our territory, several of our cities, many of our oil fields when that's still a quarter of the government revenues and allow the new #revolutionary regime there to install a network of military bases by the same foreign power that spent the last few years investing 100k dollars a year for every anti-Assad "moderate rebel"
My country will be fine after that
It will still be part of Syria but simply under federalized self rule
That's the Syrian government fault for making their economy entirely reliant on oil it's not at all the D FSNS's fault
Temporary and to fight IS this has been explained a hundred times
I find it strange how so many red liberals will put national borders before revolution
Thank god the U.S. is all about socialists modes of production
What did I say?
Like a fucking broken record.
The same spooked thinking that justify their U.S.-sponsored land-grabbing, ironic huh?
So is Syria, and american military isn't one of the welcomed groups in this one.
Oh not at all, when they talked about self-determination they meant self-determination for Kurds, and uh… Arabs on the north and uh… oil fields and uh… any city that we can conquer with the aid of western air force, yes, that's who we represent!
Yeah bro, a civil war that killed half a million people in the same country that borders Iraq, Israel and Turkey. This anti-imperialist talk sure is bogus in this context.
Also, I'm not sure "debunked" is the term I'd chose to described the arguments and narratives targeted by your low-IQ shit
pure wishful thinking
The SU only got supplies, no military base, and it wasn't trying to take territory form a sovereign nation, it was defending itself for a foreign invasion.
Except is is
How would you like it if the US backed rebels took a chuck out of your country?
Its a Kurdish dominated project, by Kurds and for Kurds.
It a Kurdish project and we all know it
If Syria wants the american military bases out, will the "federalized self-rule" expel them? Then it's not their territory.
I won't dignify this with a response
Usually I'd expect this from someone cynically pretending to believe official narratives, like the people who pretended to believe Saddam did have weapons of mass destruction, but in your particular case it's hard to tell, because you would be dumb enough to fall for it.
You are literally defending a "revolution" that is based on the idea of borders and adjusting them according to an ethnicity/culture.
North Syria isn't either
I'd feel a bit shit
Good thing the D FSNS isn't secessionist then
No it literally isn't
Show me one place in the D FSNS ' consitition or one official claim or announcement or law proclaiming it a Kurdish project
Protip:
You can't
See above and give me proof
I find it funny how you guys will support Shia militant militias and The Russian government but not a leftist militia that has been a great ally to Assad and Syria
Pro-R0java people are basically covering their ears and shouting "I can't hear you" at this point. The amount of shit they're fooling themselves to believe in, or pretending to believe in order to save face, is becoming straight up ludicrous
Mate, I think your brain is leaking.
Except it isn't
Stop with this debunked bullshit
D FSNS is openly multi-ethnic
AKA
"I can't find a way to pin an economic issue caused t the Syrian government on the D FSNS"
Hate to quote Mr An-Crap but
"Not an argument"
See…
Which basically invalidates the one weak "claim" for self-determination they had. If they're multi-ethnic are they conquering and segregating along what lines, if not "whatever we can get"?
And when "whatever we can get" happens the be the extent the U.S. is willing to support you, then you're a puppet and a vehicle for foreign invasion.
It's more like AKA the idea you can grab territory and natural resources and just say "well, your fault for not having other things!" is way too ludicrous to merit response, so I'm not going to bother. Getting a #woke #confederalist #anarchist to subscribe to imperial logic in order to sustain his delusions is the best thing I can achieve here anyway.
I'm just here to teach you about yourselves, and bring forward the underlying sentiments, prejudices and illusions behind being in favor of Kurdish self-determination at this point.
It's not claiming to be fight I for Kurdish autonomy it's fighting for the ability to create an autonomous zone within Syria that will operate under the principles of democratic confederalism along the federalization of Syria
It's got nothing to do with Kurdish autonomy like the end of your post implies
Now I've got a question for you
Do you actually genuinely think that protecting abstract borders is more important then workers revolution?
I don't think over a dozen US military bases in Syria is helping the workers revolution.
Well it's certainly helping them more then the Suc-Dem with Arab characteristics party
Or IS
Or the moderate beheaders
You don't have to like Assad to realize a he would be better for the whole of Syria and the region.
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Assad is in no way an ethno nationalist, and he would be better than a US-puppet controlling the north just because they like cooperatives
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How can tankiеs be be this stupid and naive? We all know that it is actually the Homosexual-Anglo Deepstate that is behind Rоjava.
geopolitica.ru
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SDF spokesman Talal Silo defected to the FSA-Turkish coalition.
If Gargari is right; then this is a good thing as it removes a prominent conservative politician.
I hope the guy gets shot up by Turkish AnCap gangs in al-Bab.
yes it was.
everyone was "dismissing" the articles and then autistically screeching "PROOFS" only to yet again be presented with and dismiss them.
it was on full damage control.
if you say it wasnt then i guess you were there. and if you were there then you know youre lying.
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weak b8, shit/8
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one step closer.
you know, an actual step, not like when people think putting over a dozen US military bases in Syria flags on US bases will make world communism happen tommorow.
That was about the speculated evacuation of oil fields in the Deir ez-Zor Governorate, not Raqqa.
To quote the original post;
"SDF project will collapse in few months." Former #SDF Spokesperson Talal Sillo first statement since defecting from over a dozen US military bases in Syria
Propaganda or true?
Propaganda that Rоjava will collapse for that Sillo defected?
Whether he has even defected or not
His statements don't mean anything without backing, but who knows what has really happened
One shotty picture isn't proof
It's odd how Sillo himself noted how Turkey has assassinated his own comrades in the Seljuk Brigade.
So it's either fake news or Sillo is a spineless shitter who probably got bribed a lot of money to defect to his enemies.
oh so youre new here.
before you found out what Holla Forums was we were debating on the siege of raqqa
Raqqa was being discussed in the thread but the only talk on evacuations was about the Deir ez-Zor oilfields.
And fuck off with that newfag shit; I've been here since March 2015.
Probably untrue, the US isn't going to let down their proxy without a fight
are you retarded?
are you aware of the fact that this general was on before august this year?
I've looked through every archived Rоjava general from now back to June when the battle of Raqqa began and Ctrl+F for Raqqa on everyone of those threads and found that nobody was talking about the evacuation of Da'esh fighters from Raqqa other than on this thread.
Stop lying you sack of shit.
nah, he's just a splitter
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Yes just a traitorous gay saying whatever the Turks want him to
The dude just read statements. No military chain of command shake up. He was replaced and got pissy so he fled to ES territory and then to Turkey
I'm sorry but this report must be mistaken, there is no such organization.
no you havent.
either BO deleted the the thread, which was also happening at the time, or youre bullshiting.
there was a whole bunch of articles posted there, particulary from AL-masdar and southfront, and then instead of the topic the credibility of sources was attacked, and ironically enough attempted to be refuted by posting random twitter posts
Yeah I did; here's all the archived threads I looked through. I'm guessing the thread you were talking about was deleted or something because I made sure I didn't miss a thread by matching up the creation date of each Rоjava general.
Hey look, it's you guys in the 30s talking about how cool and socialist Israel is.
The Kibbutzim were originally seen as a positive influence on the area by the Muslim peasant class against exploitative Muslim landowners, the real problem with the Kibbutzim was that they integrated with other settlers who shared neither their ideology, nor their original compunction against exploiting the labor of Muslim peasants. The closest equivalent of such corrupting influences in today's Syria would be either the KRG across the Iraqi border the ᎠFNFЅ are longtime rivals with, or the Ba'athist regime itself they exist in opposition to.
This entire argument is so fucking retarded. Yes, it's obvious the US has imperialist ambitions in the region and fighting ISIS is just an excuse, yes, they'd like nothing more than to make over a dozen US military bases in Syria a puppet. How the fuck is that an argument? What other possible alternative could over a dozen US military bases in Syria do that they haven't tried? Completely rejecting the US would've ended with their extinction and ISIS doing significantly more damage before their much more delayed defeat. Regardless, the over a dozen US military bases in Syria have clearly shown they are ready and willing to negotiate with Assad and Russia and they have no desire to be a good US puppet. What the fuck could they have done then engage in a dirty alliance with the US? Allow their deaths and the defeat of the project to maintain some retarded ideological purity? Do you think the leaders are retarded and don't understand what the US wants, or that they're opportunists and selling to sell the revolution out for a mansion in Miami?
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And this is besides the point. The very fact that people no longer associate Israel with its egalitarian roots and that it has turned into an aggressive military power just shows that deeper contradictions of geopolitics and imperialism can't be overcome by palliative egalitarian property, or palliative egalitarian constitutions. These will remain secondary to the interests of the invading powers, just like the Kurd's "socialist" confederalism is now just background noise to the ongoing process of U.S. intervention in the region.
Seriously think about the fact you just said the Kibbutz were indeed good projects and what it lead to regardless. Would any socialist with a half a brain look back at a century of occupation, war, segregation and genocide and say it was worthy it because a few utopian socialists had the opportunity to become starry-eyed at a semi-Narodnik commune for a few years? Then let's not make the same mistakes again.
Nice leap in logic
also
Its not US Intervention
It's called a comparison, and making predictions based on established patterns. If those are alien to you then I'm sure you won't have troubled siding with the US in future conflicts
lol
I find quite a difference between DemCon and and Zionist "socialism"
Not an Argument
The greatest hurdle of ideological purity for the Kibbutimz was specifically their ethnic sympathies with other Jews, and their ultimate unwillingness to collaborate with the Muslims. ᎠFNFЅ has already overcome both those potential problems, as they are now majority non-Kurd, and their relationship with the KRG is antagonistic aside from the partisan support of the PUK.
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Holy fuck, no it isn't.
Isn't the word "libertarian" synonymous with syndicalism pretty much everywhere other than the US, where the ALP somehow managed to glue their porky lolbert hands to it in burger consciousness since the 1970s?
Threadly reminder that Bordiga would have supported Assad in his struggle against american imperialism.
Holy shit, get off the US' dick, already. They also have ideology training which specifically poises them against the US. If that isn't a cynical relationship, I don't know what is.
Anarchism denotes various traditions of theory which descended apart from Marxism, and De Leon, Luxemburg, and Pannekoek differentiated themselves as libertarians through a strict Marxist framework. This framework generally keeps out the undesirables who go on about "social revolutions" and permit class collaborationism, among other things. There is overlap in structural function, but libertarian Marxists have various distinct qualities, such as not being opposed to hierarchy as such. I refuse to be lumped together with the same ideological framework that eventually allowed "Towards the Queerest Insurrection" to be put to paper.
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Decent explanation from leddit:
"Whereas Anarchist Communism is seen as a plan for a post-capitalist society with many differing paths towards achieving said society, Council Communism views communism in the materialist sense of the "real movement that abolishes the present state of things". To Marxists, communism is "not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself". The Council Communists claim that workers councils are the true organ of working class power is based on historical observation rather than a belief that councils are the most "ideal" or "democratic" form. They saw that throughout history whenever there has been a period of revolutionary upheaval that the workers have come together and formed councils and saw that these councils could extend to form the basis of the dictatorship of the proletariat (a concept that most anarchists reject) which would then lead to the establishment of communism. For them, workers councils were not the basis for communist society but merely its catalyst.
If you're an Anarchist Syndicalist you should know that the Council Communists are highly critical of unions to the point of rejecting them outright."
life has bad and worse options. get used to it
yuore right, according to international law its an outright invasion without a prior declaration of war
as cynicall as slavs collaborating with the nazis in WW2 in yugoslavia eventho they would be exterminated
None of this justifies the fact that the region under control of Apoism is fully capitalist
"anti-imperialism" is merely the fetishizing of third world people, being anti-western doesn't make Assad any less of a reactionary, this isn't even mentioning his liberal reforms that gave a fire for the superpowers to throw wood on.
But that's wrong you fucking retard
Poor guys, should've defected to the es-dee-ef when they had a chance.
Yes, allying with the US is a bad option while being murdered by ISIS is the worse one. It's the "anti-imperialists" ITT who seem to not recognize that.
over a dozen US military bases in Syria
They're both worse actually, because anarchist and communalist revolutions literally cannot work, so it's pointless from the start, in fact if anything, this impedes the work of progress in syria by impeding economic development by its national bourgeoisie in order for the proles to be prepared for socialist takeover.
I guess the Russian Revolution shouldn't have happened; they should've waited for the Tsar to industrialize and advance the economy more.
The guys in the last picture went to fight in Kobane. So I presume they are still fighting for the ЅDF.
The last picture is of a different group, not the Leon Sedov Brigade.
Nice try, the problem is that over a dozen US military bases in Syria is a "stateless" revolution which impedes it, and is counterrevolutionary in nature.
I know, I read in a blog post by them that they had moved to fight in Kobane. I forgot the name of the group though.
However, I was able to find the youtube channel of the Leon Sedov Brigade, somehow they guys are still around;
youtube.com
Why do over a dozen US military bases in Syria threads always seem to attract no-book brainlets?
books are antithetical to life in hyperreality
being leftist doesent make the kurd tribes any less of a pentagon asset
the russian revolution happened because it was in the interest of greater powers.
same with your "revolution"
iran is taking more influence in iraq and the US is probably gonna rely on sunni and kurd insurgencies to keep that out
southfront.org
That's not a rebuttal.
You should learn more before giving your opinion. Demcons are not Anarchists and there is very much a state in Rojavá and they don't pretend otherwise.
What revolution are they countering?
oh they do, but they usually wont acheive shit without backing.
see revolutions like in catalonia and the miners strike against tatcher
vs
"revolutions" like euromaidan and the arab spring.
anyone else worried that Turkey will never Leave Syria, and Idlib and North Aleppo will be yet another occupied syrian territory like Hatay and the Golan Heights? When you think about it, and Turkey is part of Nato, they really have no reason to give it up, or Assad any power to stop them.
I thought of the same thing. As long as the over a dozen US military bases in Syria is a thing and Sultan Erdog is in power I can't see them leaving unless there's some unholy deal between them, the regime, and Russia.
Oh for fucks sake I can't even say D.F.n.S. ? Fuck off
How many Syrian Turkmen live in those areas?
Kek. Seriously though, what is the US's long-term game plan regarding Turkey?
alot less then a few years ago
theyre mostly in al-bab and hama tho,a few ten thousand
trying to keep the SyDemFor label for aslong as possible while hoping the watermellon seller doesent invade or switch to the russian side.
Who is ready for Northern Cyprus 2.0?
