How was socialism and communism taught in your school?

Is this actually used?
I honestly like this. I mean it's not accurate, but it's in-depth bullshit that at least inadequately covers a lot of economic bases.

There was a poster of it in social studies class and they showed an animated short explaining it as well

anarchism sound nice.

They never did
The only time i've heard something about socialism was from a fuckin rad teacher who literally looked like the second coming of Lenin and gave the class a lecture while debunking the "communist myths" and memes; he was also ML af i think

Also, i'll add that my old law education teacher defined "russia" as a communist dictatorship in 2014 and made a weird face when i told her that the socialist party wasn't in power anymore, like if she didn't knew and came from another timeline where the USSR survived
She also defined anarchy as "just people shooting each other on the street"
Im not sure if she was mentally ill though, something was off about her

Your teacher sounded cool af

this

Heres what I was taught:
Basically Cenk Yugur

They hardly mentioned them at all. When I got to an introductory college economics class they covered them briefly. Going back to my notes I'm kind of surprised they actually delineated between state vs private in their definitions ("command economies", etc.).

laughs in burger

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Eastern yurpean here (Estonia, country in the baltics to be precise), and not only in our educational system but within our entire society, the common rhetorics is to always equate communism with fascism and regard them both as totalitarian systems that killed many people and to bring liberal democracy as example of a really humane system. On the upside though, the "communism is when government does stuff" meme hasn't really catched on around here, so things that in burgerland are unthinkable like universal healthcare are considered normal here even in the far-right circles. In general though, we literally don't have a libertarian movement here, our far-right is more stra.sserist than something resembling of american right-wing libertarians.

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this is from a test I had.

He sounds based as fuck.

Canada is at the very least almost as class cucked as the US

Honestly, the depiction of the US as some Wild West capitalist 'Other' is a potent ideological weapon for the other Western states. It allows them to pretend that the US is somehow wildly different from us and that their problems could not or do not happen here.

My teacher managed to avoid ever realing talking about socialism other than in passing. We discussed early industrial capitalism and the labor movement and mother jones and stuff like that but the only explanation of communism was the goverment owned and planned the economy.

Did you write "D" and then prove your teacher wrong?

Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States, leaving you with nine cows. No balance sheet provided with the release. The public buys your bull.

Same

kek

Middle school history teacher said everybody on the soviet union wore the same clothing and worked for the exact same pay.

Looking back, history fucking sucked in school, we didn't learn any good history meme or funny trivia back then.

Economy teacher in high school equated gubmint with communism and didn't say anything else about.

Overall pretty good.

That teacher also hated labor unions with a passion

10/10
Did you come up with user?

tbh it sounds like what we want these to be

Burger here; personally, my class never learned about socialist systems except a brief touch during some cold war history, with interest on McCarthyism. We never got into specifics or definitions, we only were told that The Soviets were Communist and America at the time didn't like Communist ideals. It was very sterile.

They didn't teach it. They implied in WWII the Soviets were the good guys for beating the Nazis although they heavily downplay it as due to weather conditions.

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When I went to HS, I wasn't told what Socialism was (like, I literally didn't even know that that was a word), Communism was never taught, but I gathered through osmosis that it was at best an ideology of good intentions but bad outcomes. No nuance, total indoctrination.

Exactly this from most teachers. We had a few socialist teachers in grade school though who taught Zinn and Freire.

in high school history we had some very basic Marxist-Leninist theory: society progresses from feudalism to capitalism, from capitalism to communism with an intermediate period of "dictatorship of the proletariat".
we were also told that attempts to establish communism all failed and lead to terrible societies. that communism was a good idea in principle but failed in practice.
brit btw

You can't be indoctrinated if you never went to school.

i remember in history we were basically told that stalin and hitler were the same person because they both were dictators and that socialism is when the gubbermint does stuff but theres private property and communism is when the gubbermint controls everything and you arent allowed to have cows

Also all sorts of old wives' tales about how the KGB kidnapped a Jewish boy who they refused to give the mother back. A tale she heard from a friend of a relative of the woman who supposedly immigrated to the USA later.

Funny thing, I watched a Soviet cartoon (from teh 70s iirc) where the protagonist gets a cow which is leased by the government but the cow's calf and the milk she produces belongs to the protagonist. So even the supposed government Communism they're referring to is a strawman in that image.

I actually got taught about Central America in history class….without them ever once mentioning a coup

That there are social democratic welfare states and communist dictatorships. The former are hugely successful and equitable societies while the latter are oppressive failed states.

funnily enough, the always failed to mention reasons why capitalism isn't perfect beyond surface-level criticisms of it being greedy; never any mention of exploitation, wars for profit, or genocide.

Germany:
and all the other standard liberal aphorisms.

It's not as if we could have known better, nor that most people cared enough to mind. The first time I was actually confronted with this kind of "anti-communism" was in school actually, after having have learnt a bit (and I mean, practically nothing) about communism, but from a more positive light. Our history teacher wanted asked us what "Communism" was, and although I raised my hand wanting to say something along the lines of "from each according to their ability, to each according to his needs" another kid was picked out and he said one of those standard phrases, I believe "when the government has full control over the economy". I'm not sure if I complained or not, but I know that we went on do learn about the distinction between "market economies" and "command/planned economies" (note: not capitalism and socialism/communism), and even though I new so little that I didn't even know what these terms meant, I started defending market and planned economies from then on, simply because I assumed I had to take the opposite stance of what the school was officially teaching. Thank god I wasn't too vocal about it, or otherwise I would have gone on defending Marxism-Leninism, the Soviet Union, Mao and the GDR on forever, just to not contradict oneself. The most I did was to subtly try and raise suspicion about the official teachings in a presentation about "Market vs Planning" in economy class, raising "but what about the USA" questions in history, building a mini Sputnik+parachute for a rocket for physics, occasionally complaining about profit (obsession) in my German essays and writing down my homework notes in a little red book. Nobody got the reference with the last one, and I glad nobody did, since I really got around to opposing Mao(-ism) in the end.

A short anecdote on the topic: And amusing memory I have or a trip to the "DDR Museum" in Berlin was when our Teacher was perplexed that our guide wasn't portraying east Germany as literal hell, but also wanted to point out the positive or better sides. Later on I realized that this was actually better "anti-GDR" propaganda than what our teachers were trying to do with complete demonization, since the reaction to that is either complete acceptance or complete resistance. Unless one accepts that there were thing in eastern block that were better, you'll always have contrarian Tankies building up their whole argument on exactly those facts you left out.

11/10

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I went to charter school in NYC run by old trot jews. they carefully avoided ever mentioning communism.

This attitude was really prevalent during the Bush years, I haven't been back to school for a while but it wouldn't surprise me seeing it making a return, especially with all the Trump talk these days on social media.

go on

I was only told that it was a sociopolitical theory by Karl Marx, didnt really gone into detail
Except that one teacher that insisted in how under socialism everything you have belongs to the state

Underrated post.

I once asked my history teacher and she said it was when everyone was based the same
I asked why people got so angry about such an idea
She said because why should someone lazier than you get paid the same amount as you

paid

"Socialism aka communism is when the mob/government own everything and make people share, which would be alright if they weren't atheists, did we also mention that they killed priests and looted churches? That's what makes it bad."

I only had a budding interest in leftism at the time but my school was and still is filled with psuedo-falangists so they crammed at shit down at any opportunity they had.

What's even more insidious about that shit is that it teaches you to automatically take the position of a bourgeois when thinking about economics. This is partially how the "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" attitude spreads.

It wasn't.

Socialism wasn't taught in my school because I haven't studied economy.

Communism was taught as being as evil as fascism and nazism which it basically was.

I was taught this in highschool.

Surprisingly not as bad.
-I learned about the Russian revolution in high school. My history teachers taught us that Lenin and Stalin didn't give the workers the MOP and they crushed other socialists.
-I didn't learn much about Trotsky either than Stalin ousting him from the party and him witholding Lenin's statement of him wanting Stalin out of the party.
-Stalin had a cult of personality, and utilised manufactured famines to liquidate the kulaks and starve them out as a class. We didn't refer to it as the holodomor though.
-Soviet Union survived and became a powerhouse through the great depression

Good post

Did you and do you still believe the manufactured famine stuff?