Blacks don't commit more crimes because they're poor...

How do you debunk this?

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Systemic poverty that stems from racist practices in the past. I know we're talking about burgerland here.
Here's a source of more poor blacks than whites % wise.
ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/rural-poverty-well-being/poverty-demographics/
Here's information suggesting black people are more likely to be around gangs than whites. You could say that's "muh violent niggers", but a more rational viewpoint would be that more gangmembers, more recruitment, forward spiral. nationalgangcenter.gov/Survey-Analysis/Demographics
Hope this helps you sleep, pupper.

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Explain.

Its a weird way to organize the graph, I agree. If you're Hispanic your first language is Spanish, so a white Hispanic isn't the same as a white guy with English as his first language. Those people are almost certainly going to be from different walks of life, as ethnic groupings.

Blacks should kill all white people(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Nazis always sperg out if you don't separate them in graphs

There are still differences since black people use live in dense urban enviroments more suitable for gang culture while poor whites are usually more rural and sparsely populated.

Black people (specifically poorer black people but can be seen in whites too) are ore likely to get arrested for the same if not lesser crimes than their white counterparts.

Also not all crime is street crime, if some dumbfuck brings up shootings in Chicago or other absurdly specific data then you counter with White collar crime, and how absurdly underreported and convicted crimes like fraud and corporate manslaughter are.

America doesn't have a proper way of racially categorizing mestizos, which is what people mean by hispanics. It's a useless term to categorize them together with whites as a whole considering that they have different economic and social situations because most mezitzos choose white when there is no mixed race option and hispanic isn't considered a racial category so you'd just be blurring what really happens to white and Hispanic demographics.

I don't, since I really could give a fuck about idpol. Even if blacks commit more crimes it doesn't mean we'd live in some crimeless utopia if we got rid of them. Thus the issue of black va white, or whatever other idpol you wanna come up with, isn't a reason for me to focus my politics on identity. Class struggle rules

Because there's literally no fucking reason to think racial differences in terms of crime aren't totally environmentally based. Systemic racism increases the likelihood of one turning to crime because the formal economy locks you out of getting user and being treated with dignity. Crime in many ways is pursued out of a desire for respects.
Check this out:
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Getting respect*

Exactly, it's all about the economy of respect

Poor whites tend to live in small towns that are separated by miles apart from each other.

Irish and Italians voila!

Why debunk it?

Lets imagine a world where Blacks actually ARE genetically predisposed to commit more crimes. How does this justify unequal treatment or racial profiling? Clearly it's a predisposition and distributes on a bell curve, so why exactly must non-criminal Blacks be treated unfairly?

Black people have underdeveloped frontal lobes.

Holla Forums has an undeveloped understanding of life

Well if it's proven that they are predisposed to crime, they are a danger to others and should be gulag to prevent crime. It literally would justify genocide tbh.

they commit more crimes because they live in ghettos which usually haven't been cleaned of lead paint and such, and thus have a degree of lead poisoning

The poor are more predisposed to crime than the rich.

Well no shit. I meant in a genetical way. Read the post I responded too.

kek black people just so HAPPEN to form violent gangs more often

Black people's predisposition to forming gangs just falls from the sky.

you people are a riot

The same people who claim that blacks are genetically inferior will inevitably claim that the poor are genetically inferior.

your shitposting is impressive, but you should kill yourself all the same

Tbh, its because the poor black family has been destabilized far more then the white or hispanic poor family. There is an observable correlation between crime rates and family cohesiveness and psycological studies have shown that without proper parental figures during development, the chance of unhealthy behaviors and attitudes (and proportedly the likelihood to engage in criminal action) developing later on skyrockets. The black family in capitalism has been hit the hardest in this regard (through multiple systemic class related causes), with high rates of divorce and abandonment usually leaving only single mothers to raise their kids while also having to work. It creates a vicious cycle and we can see it appearing in increasing factors in white populations as well as time goes on, its just that blacks happend to be hit first historically. This isn't something in the US that is just going to be common in poor black in the communities in the future, we can already see familial breakdowns across the board with growing number of people being completely put off from the idea of having a family. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2593091/
Interesting study rulling out genes as a factor for any interested

No it isn't random and it doesn't just "fall out of the sky". The reasons are well known and explained over and over to people like you, you're just too dense to understand and mistake simplicity for correctness since anything more complicated than the first correlation you find is too hard for you to grasp

Niggers are stupid violent malicious animals that need to be skinned alive en masse.

Reported

Anarchy LIVES

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Can't say I'm suprised anymore, people just keep doing it

user, have you, by chance, been touched by a woman not a member of your family?

just humour my curiosity

Yes I have even fucked sheboons.

whoulda thunk it, fascists are liars

So you advocate eugenics.

Are you a woman? Why do woman revolve their political discourse around sex and penis shaming?

You're useless fuckholes even when you make pretend not to be.

nah im a d00d but i know the right has a REAL ISSUE when it comes to sex

the issue being is getting it

This, coming from a /polack. You cant be serious.

It can no be disproven because it is ultimately true the continued mongrelizing of the US HAS led to increases in crime mainly linked to the lower Autism Level Negro and mezito population which is increasing being unable to compete with the white and Asian population

Fixed
Fucking filters

No I don't because the lower Autism Level stuff is bullshit. I do not advocate in eugenetics because I don't think it's real

So you don't believe in science?
I..Q is the one of if not the highest determining factor of where a person ends up life

Just say I.Q. fucking newfag

Bet you believe in the Briggs Myers test too.
"Its okay user! Im sure youre a ENTJ really! mabye its just a bit broken!! >_

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Basically what I'd expect from a science denier

I.Q. is linked to race /ethnicity it's undeniable and it isn't "racist" to point it out

huh
telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9755929/IQ-tests-do-not-reflect-intelligence.html
Whoopsie try again new fag
lurk more next time

Try again

Are you actually attempting to tell me a man from the Congo with a sub 70 I.Q. is as intelligent as a white man from Sweden?

I can tell you the answer
NO

I'm going to need a little more proof than tired stereotypes.

When income is equal, why is there a higher percentage of black crime than white? And don't say more likely to be arrested because of racism. To be arrested a crime must take place. Racism leads to harsher punishment, not more arrest.

Not a single person in this thread will answer the question:)

Okay i will try again

theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/29/iq-tests-online-are-they-valid
independent.co.uk/news/science/iq-tests-are-fundamentally-flawed-and-using-them-alone-to-measure-intelligence-is-a-fallacy-study-8425911.html

Both cite this study in 2012 by Dr Highfield, London Science Museum:

cell.com/neuron/abstract/S0896-6273(12)00584-3


Im telling you a man from the Congo is being used as a racist stereotype through outdated and unscientific western measurements of "intelligence"

Dont fuck with me buddy, change the falg and lurk more

This is an interesting point and I'd be interested to see the statistics accounting for how densely populated the area they live in is.

lol

So you would advocate eugenics if you thought it was real?

Because I wouldn't. People who are less intelligent are still fucking PEOPLE.

Yes, blacks are convicted of more crimes than whites, statistically speaking this is true. The keyword here is convicted, not commit. It does not factor in the systemic racist practices of the justice system or the fact that on the whole, whites have access to better lawyers. The crime rates amongst poor people will be similar regardless of race, given their literal need to survive as a result of having no fucking prospects, trapped in wage slavery. But there is no way of observing these true rates because the only crimes that are counted are ones that are reported or where the perpetrator is convicted.

When my grandfather developed alzheimers he moved in with my aunt, who subsequently became the executor of his estate. All the money he had spent decades of his life working overtime in Packard assembly plants accruing was spent on ritzy vacations to Africa, new cars, and a new house for herself. In the last years of his life he couldn't even afford a pizza, and he ended up dying alone in charity hospital because not only was all his money gone, but the fucking VA refused to pay for any of the services he required.

Technically what she did wasn't against the law, because as executor of the estate she was entitled to use the money as she saw fit, however it's generally understood that the use of that individual's money is meant to be used in a way conducive to their long term care and upkeep. Despite this being demonstrably not the case, when her brothers pressed to see her prosecuted, the county DA of the rural shithole this all took place in said flat out that he couldn't recommend pressing criminal charges because he wouldn't be able to convince whatever stupid crackers managed to find their way to the jury box that a crime had been committed due to the fine nature of these sorts of legal technicalities.

So there's a reason right there for less convictions in rural white areas: because they're too fucking stupid to understand and prosecute the law.

Well… I have to think about it tbh

b-b-b-b-b-but stereotypes aren't true unless they're the ones Holla Forums tells me about!!

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Correlation is not and does not imply causation. This alone debunks most rightwing imbecility.

I really wish that public schools had a discipline exclusively for Classical education, including formal logic.

leftist logic

opinion discarded

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Maybe you should give leftist logic a chance so you're not a pitiable rightcuck brainlet for the rest of your idiot life.
harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/

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Yeesh. Nice tome.

You missed the point entirely. Not all poor white people live in the woods. Real life isn't tv, this isn't the Beverly hill billys.

Plenty of poor whites live in the city too. And to really do this one would need to look at conviction rates between whites and blacks of similar income and from similar populated areas. 99% would be using a public defender so that would be equal as well.

You sound like a liberal.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that an illiterate righttard that has trouble reading two paragraphs misses the actual fucking point. Income and location are only facets of greater wholes and not overriding determining factors, you fucking idiot. There's hosts of contributing factors entirely divorced from how much people make or where they live or what their skin color is, you massive intellectual black hole.

I really wish I could just stab you in the mouth over and over.

Poor whites are MUCH more likely to live in the rural ares then poor blacks.

Coming from one of those people whose entire ideology revolves around the fear of black men having sex with with women.

Probably because you're a primitive black baboon and the underdeveloped frontal lobes characteristic of your race are unable to prevent you from chimping.

Get fucked.

Many lifeforms are dangerous. That does not justify their annihilation.


What exactly is wrong with eugenics, sociologically? All the objections I've seen stem from biology. We don't have to use such crude tools as forced matings and executions now.

this is the true galaxy brain position, I mean let's say it was proven black people are more disposed to crime, should we kill them all or something? The race realist shit is just crap

You're absolutely right, except it is the welfare state that incentivizes the breakdown of the family. The resources once brought into the family by the father started to be obtained from the state. Blacks were the first to feel the effects of these policies because they had the least. The government was able to offer benefits greater than what they were receiving in the free market at the time. The socialist policies adopted by the U.S are destroying the people they were meant to help and dragging the middle class into poverty.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman#War_on_drugs

The problem is who gets to define what is desireable. As long as capital is the principle by which our lives are structured, any project to improve human biology by technological means is doomed to remain a tool in the hands of the ruling class, thus defining the desireability of traits solely by their usefulness in keeping the present class relations up. Of course, once the present state of society is abolished and we got communism, humans will be free to use biotechnology to actually improve their lives.

ban me(if you insist)

Yeah, it did. My shitty Republican run state is a fucking hole and in the county it happened in, as many as 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 people are functionally illiterate, if even that. You can look yourself: North Carolina, Stokes and Forsyth counties.
nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx
So suck my hairy tits, niggerfaggot.