Authoritarianism is necessary, since Libertarian socialists can't even survive against imperialism

- liberals

Here we go again, the only country that sent support to Spain was the Soviet Union. Meanwhile the Brits blockaded the Spanish fleet in the Mediterranean to allow Franco to land in Seville.

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theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dielo-truda-workers-cause-organisational-platform-of-the-libertarian-communists
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If you want a more modern analog, check out "The Coming Insurrection".
Stalinstache, read or stop posting. You're a huge detriment to board quality wherever you pop up.

Having a government is not equivalent to being authoritarian.

All you've done is copy and paste a load of empty idealism. Good luck with your volunteer army against the might of global capital's professional armies, I'm sure THIS time it will be different and won't collapse as soon as "the workers" realise that individually they're better off not volunteering to die.

All you've done is copy and paste a load of empty idealism. Good luck with your volunteer army against the might of global capital's professional armies, I'm sure THIS time it will be different and your pseudo-state won't collapse as soon as "the workers" realise that individually they're better off not volunteering to die.

Why aren't MLs Marxists or Leninists? Why is abolishing the state such a low priority? Why do they think abolishing property is the same as giving it to the collective? Why do they see a monopoly on force as not inherently bad? Why do they think police, law and democracy can be reformed?
Why? Why? Why?

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The state will never wither away. Name one instance in history in which it did. States are almost always overthrown, and when they collapse, they are always quickly replaced.

Just admit tankie that you are not Marxist. You have no problem with state capitalism, and your goal is not communism

Yeah okay

Because MLs are ultimately edgy social democrats whose idea of socialism is wage labor and commodity production with red flags and free healthcare.

Anyone who bet 300 on McGregor has no ground to stand on calling anyone an idealist, especially an illiterate hapa who thinks pandering to reactionaries and electing socdems will end capitalism. Read a book and stop double posting you crypto-nazi.

I don't know what you people call tankies anymore

Thing is, while Catalonia was an interesting experiment, it was not suited for its time and place. The anarchists were awful at war. They were more focused on forcing Valencian barbers into trade unions than preparing to fight against the nationalists. The republic was forced to rely mainly on the well-organised communists for military action.

It's not that the anarchists were terrible at war, it's that they, and the republic, were hopelessly outgunned. Marxist-Leninists wouldn't have been able to use dialectics to pull enough manpower out of thin air to beat down Franco if somehow they replaced the Anarchists there. It was just like the First Spanish Republic getting crushed six decades before.

…in support of the Republican government that went on to liquidate the CNT/FAI and the POUM with the support of the PCE and PSUC and thus the USSR, sure.

At this point I'm convinced Afroplasm is just a character that people put on to shitpost badly.

Scattered forces, fractured front and poor strategic planning were far bigger problems for the Republican side rather than pure firepower. Sure things like Condor legion made things far more difficult but the war was definitely winnable in terms of manpower and materiel. The forces of the Republic were hesitant and ineffective when it was time to go on the offensive and that made it far too easy for Nationalists to concentrate their forces and capture vast swathes of land basically unopposed.

Makhno based the Platform based on his own experiences (very successfully, I might add) commanding an independent anarchist army in Ukraine and variously winning at least 1 time or more against the Ukrainian Nationalists, the Imperial German and Austro German occupation, the Hetmanate Republic, the Russian White Army, the Russian Red Army, and other smaller forces led by Ukrainian otamans. Moreover, it was based upon applying the work of Kropotkin, Pouget, and others to the circumstances existing across the world at the time, integrating these with his own experiences on the ground.
If that's not scientific socialism, then nothing is - least of all your belief in a ready-made red monarchy with a palatial economy!

Proofs or bullshit.

the barbers were in Alicante not Valencia and it was a co-op rather than a trade union but the point stands
source is Europe Between the Wars by Martin Kitchen

How is authoritarianism solution to authoritarianism? Anarchism is the only system that is known to not immediately degenerate into bandit fiefdom.

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Only power can answer power. And power comes from people being more organized and more united, not less.

"10/10, Pretty good." -George Orwell

organisation does not equal hierarchy

Authoritarianism isn't inherently hierarchical.

it is, state authority is derived from formal superior position and monopoly on violence, cop can kill and go off scot free, try to kill a cop and walk away though…

So collectively electing a leader is bad and hierarchical now?

Yes. It always has been. The Roman Republic wasn't created to give freedom - it was a way of preserving the monarchist state while avoiding the extremes of a king-elect going power-hungry.

Lol I don't know who you think I am but I actually put £300 on Mayweather and regret not putting more.

Tankies have Finbol and based Roo.

Ancoms have LSR…

Improving Libertarian Socialism is necessary, since Authoritarians can't even resist becoming Imperialists.

leftcom.org/en/articles/2015-01-21/lenin-s-legacy