So, left-nationalism

So, left-nationalism
Is there, literally, ANYTHING wrong with building a national identity, to inspire the people to end foreign influence over their country, with socialist principles and ideas?

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My great grandfather was a left chinese nationalist until his death

I'm a burger, so its hard to be a nationalist.

We have this thread every other week: I refer you to Papa Tito.

too bad he was a liberal

I'm pretty sure you can still fight for or engage in the autonomy and celebration/respect for your culture or ethnicity without the formation of a centralized political authority with set boundaries. Even in the presence of a state, you should have to unite all the cultures and ethnic groups in your given territory, especially in already multicultural areas of the world like France, Spain, Vietnam, or even the most homogeneous places like Finland (which has Nordic, Slavic, Baltic, Germanic, and Aboriginal identities that make it up).

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Impossible to be a nationalist, since the whole country was built on ideas. Zap the federal government, and the only reason denizens on american soil would have to call themselves american anymore would be force of habit. Everyone else would call them africans, germans, french, english, etc. etc. if they weren't specifically told that they were burgers.

Marx was against nationalism and preferred internationalism.

left-nats BTFO

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It's easy to be a nationalist, just not an AMERICAN nationalist

honestly i hate the Doug but don't have any of the alternative's i've mocked up over the years on hand

The former is still within the realm of nationalism

American national identity is horrifying and needs to be contained.

Because it's basically just liberalism. "Let's all sacrifice ourselves for the interests of the capital owning class, because spooks!"
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Read Rafiq.

This. So much. Preserve american in gulags

There's a difference though. Fighting because you want to be left alone, don't want to be exploited or just want to be allowed to speak whatever language you prefer, is not the same as sacrificing yourself for what is essentially a spook, but in reality represents the material interests of the capitalist class.
Compare for example the rabid-nationalism of WW2, with the isolationism of the Sentinelese and other 'uncontacted' peoples who do not wish to interact with the rest of (industrial) civilization.

communism on a state has never worked. But on a minarchy or anarchy it has.

american identity is not a national identity

American National Identity is an abomination.

Marx is better than any spooked af nationalist. Nationalism is one of the worst spooks one can be a servant to.

kek, ya nations…how do they work?

lmao

what a stupid meme/pic. Hilarious OP, post more.

what are your values/virtues? because if its moral, healthy and not d.egenerate then its just right-wing fascism in disguise tbh

fascists also hated capitalism and international banking

Incorrect. Fascists protect capital.

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Those are people, which isn't the same as the abstraction that is the 'nation'.
Does god exist if you're killed by a believer?

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fuck off

Imagine being this much of a brainlet

The nation, liberalism and capitalism are just different sides of the same (three-sided) coin. One doesn't exist without the other(s). Of it you're fine with "socialism", which is known to be little less more than state capitalism under "workers" control (a term entirely meaningless nowadays), then feel free to re-manage capital under a different form.

If not, read marxists.org/reference/archive/perlman-fredy/1984/nationalism.htm

My god, you just made me realize that.

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The only problem with left-nationalism is that you get isolated from the rest of the world, and some nationalists that you foster may try to ditch the whole left part to get hooked onto international trade the moment they get the chance

no he wasn't, read the fucking manifesto.

supoño que non haberá ningún paisano equií, pero prefiro deixar claro o que apoio

Literally Holla Forums with a red star instead of a swasticka

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Ended well

You can be a nationalist in America. Just not an American Nationalist.

Rafiq is so based. I will follow him into war.

Rafiqism should be it's own movement.

How in any way or shape is left nationalism a form of liberalism. Are you telling me Juche is a branch of liberalism?