Is Chelsea E. Manning banned from /r/socialism yet?

Is Chelsea E. Manning banned from /r/socialism yet?

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/r/socialism most likely thinks that Chelsea is a CIA psyop after she dissed Tankies

How is she so perfect?

Oh so catgrill drawfag will do an avatar for someone who got sent to federal prison but she won't do my YT banner for free? >>>:^🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

I miss our drawgirl so much…

she did this like a week ago

She's not as present as she used to be but she'll always crawl back here from time to time, like all of us.

I consider "her" to be more idpol division bullshit to make us look bad. And dissuade future "whistle blowers"

We need to focus on how they fucked him. Not on some dude that came out of jail for treason/leaking completely different from how he went in. He is traumatized and sissified out of his mind, he got punished for his bravery and defiance of the system and now he is a shell of his former self.

The things they must have done to him… Makes me shudder to even think about it.

I truly think they tortured, brainwashed, chemically altered him, castrated and than completely mutilated him, and began to use him as a pawn. For final punishment.

I'm glad Snowed got the fuck out in time.

Transgenders are a very very small percentage of the population, all this tranny propaganda lately is just idpol distraction and big pharma rent seeking through selling gender reassignment related treatments and medication/medical care.

she's not idpol almost at all.

Stay spooked, faggot. Trannies are the master race

ass blasted tankie spotted

Is there anything more pathetic than being a tankie?

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who cares

Hey Marxist Memes Admin whatchu doing

yay for catgrilldrawfag!

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Didn't Manning get the files out using a Lady Gaga CD? I think the signs were always there

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If this is the case then I feel like this is enough proof to put the brainwashing theory to rest forever.

Yeah.
Read a bit about how she was before prison, even before the army. Its clear she was trans long before prison. Anyone who thinks prison made her trans is a retard.

I've decided I don't like Chelsea. I wish the rest of you would shut up about her.

all the more reason to draw that person

That's just like, your opinion, man

Did you say "that person" just so you didn't have to say "her"?

Does anyone seriously not believe that Bradley was brutally assraped in prison and decided to become a woman to cope with it? A psychiatrist could have a field day with him.

Don't get too invested in him, statistically there is a 40% chance it will suicide. That's practically a coin toss.

nice armchair psychology
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There was always something that troubled Manning, even as a child it was clear that she (then he, I guess) wasn't normal. Honestly, praises to her for leaching treatment for her gender dysphoria of the government that was treating her like trash.

her*

gib chelsea gf thx

Oh give me a break. Given his circumstances, the prison guards probably encouraged the rape.

Ok, who knows. But suggesting that rape makes you trans is ridiculous.

fuck off dude

tbh i used to find Chelsea somewhat embarrassing but i'm now 100% behind her because fuck tankies and red fascists

READ U PLONKER

2true tbh ;(

I love you please draw more Situationist catgirl!!

The only reason it's getting this much attention is because it's transitioning. Also, I've noticed it's doing the stupid pronoun thing, so it's getting called it.

Kys

You do know she came out before "they got to her". Literally day 1 after she was arrested, her attorney said that manning is a woman and should be referred to as one. She wasn't "tortured into becoming trans".

draw Stirner one never has enough Stirner!

Still a person, not an "it". Even using "he" would be more accurate.

Go cry on tumblr you waste of human flesh.

this. people are not 'tortured into becoming trans', we all know trans is caused by exposure to anime.

So what is with all the spooks in this thread? Recent Holla Forums converts or just plain retards?

I've been wondering this too.

Didn't realize that reducing someone to a thing rather than an actual human being is disliked only on tumblr

No. Literally the only reason for putting pronouns on your profile rather than providing gender cues and leaving pronoun choice to the observer is to allow for the proliferation of pronouns, much like the sixty contrived genders of tumblr. If it wants to support a singular first person neuter pronoun in English, fine. I will indulge them and refer to anyone doing as much by calling all such persons it.

See

I was joking you doy.

Holla Forumstards need to read a fucking booko! NOW! NOW! NOW!

gender is, as we all know, a socially constructed made up spook, hence, 'transgender' people are the most spooked of all.

You identify as whatever pleases you ego, comrade

No because she is doing what she wants, enjoying her body how she wants. When a belief limits your ego, when it is your master then it's a spook. when you OWN it as your property then it's not.

Fucking retard hahahahahahah

t. agender galaxy brain

A truly woman hater drawing.

Yea, no.

You don't understand shit about gender.

Also Chelsea is damn near perfect and the sort of public leftist we need. A Trans prisoner critiquing Hillary, Obama, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic Party from the left. What more can you ask for?

or she changed her gender for self pleasure, aesthetics for her own.
ask her what was her reason 100% sure it wasn't to please others nor you or anybody other than herself.

You have to go back.

As local worthless incel, I would say she is way to "cuddle and rainbows" to me , it reeks of proto-SJW-ism , and make her an easy tool of media against the "evil troles".

But on the other hand, considering all she gone throught for only trying to go throught, I'm gonna forgive all of it for now.

She is def all "cuddle and rainbows", but in way I think she is useful, even if Im not crazy about that aesthetic. Shes left, but liberals cant just go "reeee bernie bro!!!1!!11!" which is cool.

The problem isn't altering one's body, though is it? The problem is that insistence of one person (or groups) perception of that body should take precedence over those of others. To DEMAND that others should be compelled to address you in a specific manner and be punished for refusing to do so is to assert authority over them. FFS, this is the sort of shit kings and emperors used to pull. you can't support this and be an anarchist.

b8

Well you see, Stirner wasnt against biology. Ergo, using the correct pronouns for a trans person is not a spook.
Reminder also of kindness, usually people are empathetic towards trans people/nb people and naturally pleases themselves to help someone else; meaning its not a spook also to be altruistic because its your choice that your own ego made of being altruistic

She isn't asking for a custom pronoum. It's reasonable to respect what she indentifies as, she isn't suing you for it.

Obviously I don't like her new transtapo fanbase (and also the new drawfag fanbase too), but acting before a major event is bad.

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AHA! A new recruit for Furcom gang! I'mma make the OC when I get back from hanging with my friends.

Read again. It's trans status is an irrelevance you're hiding behind so that, as usual, tumblrites can push highly questionable political objectives concealed behind cries of bigot.


As above. Doesn't want to be called it? Don't do that pronoun thing, like it has.

He makes me sick but i liked his tweet about nuclear weapons.

doesn't work like that methinks

No, it's not an irrelevance because it involves every foundation of their person; From the way their brain is structured, to the body formation. It's factual biology and cannot be a spook; biology is not a spook, remember?

I fully agree with cues though, but "it" is not a pronoun for a living being, it's for objects.

isn't that exactly the same as nazis who say jews and black people are evil and or stupid due to their biology?

At the time they didnt exactly have a lot of science on their back, and Hitler only said that because he had a bad experience with jews in his early life just like a ton of germans. Its biologically proven they're different but not "wrong" or "inferior".

Oh look, suddenly biology has dictated exactly what words someone writes on their twitter bio.

If you don't like the fact I'm being deliberately derogatory, you can just take the pronouns off your profile. Until that point, it's an it; end of discussion.

That's really stupid

Go cry to someone who cares.

You clearly care a whole lot, you are mad as hell about twitter bios.

It's a simple declaration of what she would prefer to be addressed as. Morphing that into a slight against your freedoms is ridiculous and weird. You're like a flailing retarded breitbart commentator.

Based user. Thank you < 3

Cis men and women demand to not be misgendered, why shouldn't trans people? If you just started referring to a random dude with female pronouns in front of his face, he would probably be pretty pissed off. To intentionally misgender someone is to intentionally disrespect them.

literally nobody cares

No, you're obviously quite mad that I indulge you in this silly pronoun nonsense.

Cues do that. Again, there is no reason to do this whatsoever unless you want to pander to tumblr's sixty contrived genders.

Don't have an argument, do you? IAll you've got left are the usual array of attempts to shame employed by SJWs. Go away.

>mad that I won't indulge you

It's very simple, she's trans and wants to be called she. It is basic decency to oblige her. Typical gender cues often aren't enough for transgender people and being misgendered is distressing. Has nothing to do with tumblr or the bizarre gender lists that were mostly exclusive to outraged teenagers in the first place. You just want to be an asshole.

Love that girl

So does r/soc know yet?

You know it is going to happen at some point. She'll make some anti-imperialist statement and the neolib pseuds will be all over her, and they'll go low.
still can't stand the cutesy shit though

is this fucking real?

Ms. Chelsea Manning. Transwoman. See how that works?

Bullshit. This is straight, out and out bullshit.

If the accidental use of the wrong word be someone else is such a severe problem for them, I suggest that the solution is likely strong sedative drugs for such shrinking violets.

I want to be obnoxious to people inventing utter pointless and retarded rituals. That would seem to be you.

Society is full of assholes. Walking around with a huge target to tell the all the assholes how to trigger you? I think you'll find that a touch self-defeating

Pedantry, you admit the message is the same. Just that you find the specific request for a pronoun to be untoward? I don't see how this matters.

Not really, you've never seen a trans person that doesn't pass?

I don't know what your angle here is. Not having any consideration for other people's feelings is not a virtue, it makes you an asshole. I don't think anyone is claiming that at the first mention of an improper pronoun trans people collapse into hysterics, but a simple reminder of what they prefer will make things easier. Again, it's mostly courtesy. Manners are just ritual of a sort, it's just to reinforce decency.


I think submitting to the inaccurate worldview of your opponents is more self-defeating.

No, it isn't.

Yes, as I have been saying constantly.

Even though you've been told why more than more once. Totally not tumblr, are you?

Yeah, because these people don't dress hyperfeminine to compensate, right? It's not like high-heels or skirts are gender-coded and thus cues themselves, right?

Muh moralism.

No, tumblr, but then you're just going to keep claiming this because in all probability you support making up sixty labels for genders.

That's why you're having an argument with an asshole on an Indonesian wood carving forum for doing something you admit is just slight rudeness?

You've mentioned a weak connection to tumblr and that it somehow infringes on your freedom? I don't know, I think your complaint is vague and unjustified.

No, not everyone does that. And in any case, when specifically referring to pronoun usage online, someone might not want to share a picture of themselves and just indicate in their bio what pronouns they'd like.

Crackerjack refutation.

What exactly are you rejecting in my original statement? That referring to someone by their preferred pronoun is a matter of courtesy? Your absurd website factionalism reminds me of the Holla Forums vs. reddit obsession, I've never owned a tumblr account.

My initial statement had nothing to do with wise time usage, we could both be doing more valuable things right now. The rudeness is slight in individual scenarios but for a trans person these instances will build up into something more distressing. Hence the very simple request for a specific pronoun while online. Easy easy.

How convenient.

Well given that it's well known amongst trans circles that if you wish to be read as "woman" you should provide a minimum of three gender cues to observers, who's fault is that.

"I'm going to completely ignore your prior posts on this and simply reassert my bullshit claim"

Once again, hiding the true objective behind cries of bigot. Nice and easy for you: anyone who puts pronouns on their profile is an it. Have fun.

Is it bad that I lurk in here at least once a day?

Btw, I'm not the drawgirl, I just see that a lot of people only come onto this board occasionally.

I don't think this discussion is going anywhere as your objection seems purely based in tumblr paranoia rather than anything substantial. Have fun on your pointless crusade as well.

Okay. Ta-ta.

zero arguments of substance

100% "WHY DO I HAVE TO USE DIFFERENT PRONOUNS WAAAAH" snowflaking

why did she leave us? Was someone rude to her?

She used to be a regular poster? Was she a trip fag?

t. not heavily engaged board user

ITT: Dogmatic social constructionists want to pretend they're not setting the stage for over 9000 genders when such things are in plain sight.

She is in this thread friendo

something like that already happened when she criticized Kamala Harris

Very. I didn't add archive links because I was lazy, but you can use Twitter's search engine. Just keep in mind it has an annoying tendency not to show all tweets if you specify a timeframe.

b…but that's the english standard neutral pronoum, it's basic english niqqa

waaah im crying about genders

No, the English singular third person neuter pronoun is it. They is plural (Hey, those Latin lessons were actually useful after all). Furthermore, are you actually so stupid as to think this person has no genitalia?

We love you

Give it time

People who bitch about Chelsea need to have purposeful, forceful gender reassignment surgery themselves.

"It" is never used to refer to people. When referring to living beings it's usually only reserved for animals, people don't even call babies "it" anymore.

The singular they is not new and it's very common. You've probably used it without thinking, e.g. "A student is here to see you", "Tell them to wait in the hall".

I actually enjoy the cuddles and rainbow aesthetic unironically along with more traditionally masculine aesthetics. So I have no issue with it.
I understand why most people wouldn't like it but at the same time if she wants to be cute online there really isn't anything you can do.

"It" is only used for inanimate objects because lifeforms all have genitals. Singular "they" as third person neuter is a political neologism (which is not the same as the context you use "them") and, once again, the only reason for putting pronouns on profiles is to enable usage of the word (or other such xir) in that way. I reject the validity of these concepts.

You reject the validity probably because you're emotional.

You call a random dude a girl in public your gonna get a shot to the jaw

What?

Meant for

It isn't new, it's rather old. There are a myriad of scenarios in which a singular they sounds perfectly natural, "A critic from LA says your new book is shit" "They don't know what they're talking".
We don't default to it as a pronoun but we already use it involuntarily as a neuter.

It's especially silly to fret over since "they" isn't some new gender theory term, it's a word we already possess and often use in that fashion.

The primary concern with "it", or any pronoun really, isn't genitals. It's that "it" is specifically used to refer to objects or concepts. Animals are sometimes still referred to as "it" because no one really cares if you're being impersonal with animals, unless they're pets I guess.

I guess he/she can be considered genital signifiers but it doesn't apply to trans people. Hence why they specify.

*talking about

If that wasn't clear

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Caring about it so much means you're emotionally invested in the topic yeah

I agree, but personally I think she's earned it, considering what she went through.

the cutesy shit that is

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No, the usage you're pushing is a political neologism. "A critic from LA says your new book is shit" "He doesn't know what they're talking about".

It absolutely is. Western language has been that way for over two thousand years. Voce romanum, pathice?

Oh look, we're back to claiming gender cues don't exist.

see

Yes, the messiah is entirely beyond reproach and all heretics shall be burnt at the stake.

Basically. If you want to criticize someone who fucked up American interests for bad behavior you're basically an asshole who deserves to have their dick cut off more than she has earned herself.

In fact I presume you mean:
"He doesn't know what he's talking about"
as you're trying two instances of singular rather than an individual referring to a group.

I like how people mocking you is the new "being burned at the stake"

You can also use they in the scenario I presented. He is often used as a neutral but it's not the only neutral available.

Gender is just as often arbitrary in western languages. Not really relevant for pronouns in today's age though where, yes, genitals in the case of trans people will not always apply to their gender. A transwoman with a penis should still be referred to as she, if that's her choice. The state of her genitalia is not what the pronoun is indicating nor is it your business to know. The usage of gender in regards to pronoun refers to just that, gender, not biological sex. Yes there is a distinction.

The appeal to tradition is pretty useless besides. Language is literally just consensus, it changes to need. Pronouns are more fixed than most vocabulary but thankfully we already have "they". It's why I'm not confident that terms like "xer" or "xim" are going to catch on or are even needed. But like I said we don't have to invent anything in the first place.

It's done a brave and noble thing, but it's just another flawed human being like the rest of us.


KEK


You're just persisting in pushing a political neologism. The pronoun is intended to refer to the genitalia of the subject, "gender" at its core simply a proxy to advertise the sex of a person since the advent of clothing, so you're engaged in sophistry to substitute one for the other in this context.

You're right as regards language being based on consensus, which is why this tripe is getting pushed so hard by the social construction gang (of whom I presume you are a member, given the absolute insistence on trying to win me round), the entire project is contingent on a large majority of the population accepting the usage you propose. Sufficient rejection causes failure.

*unsheaths katana*

Nothing personal

You're an intolerable sphincter

By this I assume you mean that I'm playing fast and loose with the rules of language for a political agenda but really, language has bent for political purposes. We're not French, we don't have a ministry of our language enforcing standards. If there's need for a gender neutral pronoun then we may as well use it.

There are a great many of social scientists who would disagree with you. That's a debate I'd rather not get into because it would take way too fucking long.

I don't know what you mean by this. I believe that some things are social constructs. But I don't think that's an especially agenda-laden viewpoint. Not anymore than yours.

Do what you want, this is a message board where we discuss things though. If I have a disagreement I'll voice it.

Correct and I guess long-term we'll see how this plays out. I don't think referring to people as "it" is going to further your cause at all though. Again, do what you want, but I'll just say it comes across as spiteful and irrational to take such offense at people asking for specific pronouns. Your objections being rooted in a slippery slope 3000 genders argument that I would expect from a Holla Forumsyp and I guess the idea that requesting pronouns is imperious? That part I don't get but neither objection seems well-founded.

Can't left have normal leader instead of this transvestic degenerate?

Who says anything about them being a leader, stop bitching about everything I swear to god

Creeps stalking girls, as is usual on imageboards.

Wrong flag, you use the nazi flag

I don't care about your petty bourgeoise moral standards. There is nothing like 'misgendering', it's just invention of tumblr kiddies and middle class bored transvestites.
They should be happy we don't shoot them

What's nazi in that post?

Edgy as fuk

look up androgen insensitivity syndrome, fam, science can explain why you're wrong

You have to pander to the mentally ill or fetish freaks or you are a Nazi

Anti-IDpol has gone too far around here these days.

There's literally nothing wrong with being mentally ill, everyone has health problems and the brain isn't any different from any other organ.

Medical anomaly can't be used as argument for respect for delusions of mentally ill people. Transgenders are mentally ill and they have delusions, they think they're opposite gender but in reality they're not. It's as simple as that, no rocket science.


It's true but people with mental problems shouldn't be presented as serious political activists because it's only counterproductive. For the greater part of society this kind of behaviour is disgusting, in the best eccentric.

There is a hell of a lot wrong with making it a virtue, and the circus that comes with it.

There's nothing wrong with destigmatizing it. This isn't the 19th century.

And why not? How many down the line in history actually have been mentally ill in one way or another? Quite a few.

Because that's making our ideas look just as ridiculous as them.

They didn't have a parade about it

hm

Who cares? If you haven't gotten out much this is pretty normalized at this point.


Many political movements in history lead by people who had some sort of shit going on in their head did have something comparable to a "parade about it".

You're all bitching for no reason whatsoever.

Maybe we should care, because if we won't win this struggle, nazis will do it instead of us?

List at least three.

I don't think we should care.

I'd like to never talk about it again, but that's impossible. I went to Pride this year with friends who thought it was the ultimate thing to do politically. It was fucking dreadful, hedonistic garbage. An outdoor fetish meeting disguied as a movement.

Pretty much all the late stage syphilitic fucks who founded the United States

Oh how dreadful. Hedonism.

Like Hedonism isn't a staple of image boards in the first place

this is a dumb argument

Fine, but don't tell me it's actually serious political movement. It's a joke

People are saying to leave a fucking person who's been in solitary for years for leaking information from the American government the fuck alone.

Behave.This person is a God damned idiot stoking up nonsense as an ego boost and posting sexualised pictures. How long do you think Chelsea would last in an actual fight ffs, it's laughable.

^this

So called LGBTQ+ movement is in fact manifestation of decadency of upper and middle classes. They have so much money so they spend on worthless hedonism, which means to fill the existential void. It began to be connected with leftism in close time correlation with the poitical failure of Soviet Union and loss of faith in true socialist values of the left parties, which became just liberal.
It don't have much in common with working class movements, communist/socialist or anarchist politics.

You're on Holla Forums.

Neither do you.

You're engaging in identity politics much more if not similar than the people you're criticizing.

In any case you can disagree with someone's politics while supporting what they do, eg Assange's questionable politics and Wikileaks.

Your mother failed to teach you actions speak louder than words, and what she did spoke louder than much of the words she's going to say.

you're not wrong, but I'd still support it while just accepting that it's not socialist, as I do with many things

Yes, the only place I could say it freely.

Cheers.


Indeed.

It does this every day. "Extraordinary rendition". "Collateral Damage". "Hardworking Families".

Is there a need? Look at that picture I posted. Does that person need a special pronoun in order to express themselves as they desire? All I see is the nonsensical proliferation of labels, as all the "gender is a spook" posters imply. This serves no purpose other than to obfuscate the obvious, as far as I see.

I agree the debate would be excessive and it's not that I think the thoughts of the social scientists are unwarranted, merely over-focused.

Allow me to be more specific. There are people who are dogmatic in their insistence that everything is a social construct. People who claim that physiological sex is a social construct, never mind the material evidence. You appear to be from this camp, from what I can see.

Wouldn't expect otherwise.

Spite is the point, no? The feminists strategy of shaming is based on inducing negative emotions in the recipient to solicit a change in behaviour. So here.

It was over 9000 genders. Furthermore, it's not a slippery slope, see for yourself: askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/74544202338/list-of-pronouns I believe there were even people claiming to be sapient fog (fogself) at one point.

It's not a request. A request can be declined without punishment. If you refuse to use the pronoun stipulated on someone's profile, you will be punished by their community. Punishment only comes when one has refused a command. If one individual or clique is issuing commands to the community, that implies they are rulers. Particularly given that these commands are in force even when the individual concerned is not present.

You poor oppressed soul.

Did I say that? I'm simply telling you I'd be ostracized, fired and probably ruined socially if I criticized. It may come out spiteful but the shit just builds.

Ok, but look that Bradley/Chelsea wouldn't get so strong attention if he wasn't transgender, and his transgenderism really isn't helping to identify our political message with issues of ordinary working people.
You never know if his current actions are more helpful or harmful.

So?
How are they harmful?

You treat working people like a fucking stereotype when their opinions about these subjects are wide and different.

Nobody should care about your personal opinions about a whistleblower's behavior.

The problem is that he wasn't named as this, but in nicer words, by any public representative of the left. He's still regarded as serious representative of the anti-authoritarian left, which surely will not end well.

That's the point of Pride, it's a huge sex party to piss off the bigots. I'm not fan either, to tell the truth.

All authority should be questioned. Even if someone's whitleblower it don't put him away of criticism.

You are honestly more hysterical than most people you're criticizing.

But it pisses off only the working class, ordinary hard working people. Look on reality.

How is someone who went to prison and got put in solitary for years for leaking classified information the authority


Again, criticism of what? Behavior? School yard bullshit.

What if they're a part of the working class.

No it doesn't.

It's the liberals that were the worst because they bring their children to be photographed with 'sluts' and old men in leather g strings. I must have been pulling a weird face all day but Liberals are really getting to me, such pro capitalist, ultra sexualised rot.

So why in whole world you can observe brith of conservative, protofascist reaction originating from worker's circles?

You don't decide that, ridiculous comment.

Nobody should care about your opinions about a whistleblower's personal life.

shitload of factors. it's dumb to just single out trans people and pride parades.

Most people working don't even vote first of all because of their hours, second of all Trump and this bullshit hasn't originated from the lower class it's the middle class who can afford to take time off to fucking vote, third of all this reaction has been here for 4 years and you're acting like it's the newest god damn thing since slice bread.

You're being a hysterical liberal.

In fact I can think you can trace white nationalism's popularity far before the existence of fucking Tumblr.

The Aryan Nation did not star when Tumblr began.

but don't deny that Tumblrism (in the wide sense) has played a role in this current iteration

I think I'm halfway between the two of you

It hasn't. In fact most people from tumblr who are into that shit I know are mentally ill, and are largely homeless. While people who voted for Trump aren't these working class stereotypes who easily get shocked by a cock, they have like four kids for fucks sakes.

A number of factors lead the upper middle and upper class to vote en masse for Trump, and despite that he was the second most unpopular candidate still to Hillary.

They were both historically hated candidates.

You're blowing this out of proportion to excuse pushing in on the personal life of someone who gave out classified information about the Iraq War to the public.

I'm just pondering that the Weimar Republic and the late 70s to early 80s UK would also qualify as periods of intense "tumblrism", if you look at what was happening in society. Both of those points in history also saw a strong upturn in the popularity of Nazi politics.

America has had it worse in the past. All this shit reeks of mass hysteria about the prominence of nazis in regular politics.

In the best they're 3% - politically not so important. Transgedners are even less politically valuable.

We will mean nothing unless we're a mass movement. To become it, we must adress majority identities and their life issues, not only minority identities.

A whistle blower has nothing to do with this, you're behaving manic.

You don't use your other organs for cognition.

And…?

Someone with faulty thinking equipment is the best person to represent socialist thought?

Chelsea is anti-communist.

Tankies aren't communist, shut up bitch

Supposedly Rachel was actually unbanned a few hours after r/Socialism had a meltdown, but they sent her a really cuntish and abusive message about it and basically told her never to come back or else (Rebel Absurdity threatened to rape her at some point iirc) so she hasn't returned.

lmao, if you aren't a tankie, you aren't a communist. the tanks in Hungary were 100% justified.

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read critique of gotha programme

aiiiiii plz read


No one represents socialist thought. Also, you don't understand how brains work, apparently.

maybe you should read critique of the gotha program then you'd see that dictatorship of the proletariat is not supposed to mean an actual dictatorship

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Ah shit, I haven't seenyou post here in ages. Pls keep up the good work.

Post traps!

Sweet Jesus Pooh, that's not critique! You're eating anti-communist propaganda.

You should be disgusted with yourselves.

Manning literally got shit from Trump because she was being too critical of obomba though

When the fuck did Holla Forums become tumblr-lite? Who cares about someone else's self-perception? If she/he/they want to be called by a given pronoun, good for them, maybe I will, maybe I won't. Its literally an interpersonal issue, why bother talking about it?

you call this loathsome lewdness 'self-perception'?

this tbh

Since when did leftypol start being NYT

Next you are going to talk about fun and then the Jews, you spook

Lewdness is revolutionary

I could be mistaken since it was years ago, but didn't she come out as trans at about the same time as when she leaked the stuff about the US military? And didn't she have to go through some big legal clusterfuck just to be allowed to start medically transitioning while she was in prison?

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HE, he's a man ffs

kill yourself

You're a turd. Take off that flag.

See? This is why you should join the army! Its free!

Holy fuck what happened to this place

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newfags and expolacks

case in point.

You have to go back

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he is too dumb ignore him don't bother fam

No doubt - and there will be more. In fact, here we have the first catch of the week already, from neolib central at the NYT:
archive.is/Aimil
Among other shit, they peddle this obvious disinfo lie:
More choice words:
So much for the tolerant radical center.

Why do you think they released him from prison so early? And made possible all medical gender change?

trans/nb people are just consumer narcissists who think biology is an evil white social construct anyways. trans philosophy amounts to 'just b yourself'+ REEEEE respect my admittedly made up, socially constructed and performative identity.

He became a sissy faggot for BBC.

trans is just a wacky teenage fad, much like 'scene kids' back when I was in high school

now this thread is about how sissification of Bradley happened and he became Chelsea

Nah

He became addicted to BBC

wasn't gender an evil social construct, though?

'Gender' is a social construct designed to oppress women proles. The unpaid labor of reproducing capitalism is assigned to women due to their biological sex. it's marxist feminism 101. a male born person dressing in stere demanding to be called 'she' is equivalent to a white person dressing in blackface and demanding to be called a 'nigger'

* a male born person dressing in stereotypically femenine clothes

What a bullshit, are you feminist or something? Gender don't opress women, actually they're quite muh privileged because of their gender (I don't say it's wrong, just it's not true that it's any way opressive).

what's wrong with this, sis?

Pretty cringey shit, but she endured more torture than 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of fat alcoholic laborer men, so I am pretty sure she has earned the right to say whatever the fuck she wants.

If you have spent more than 0 seconds gettings raged about a random tranny who GAVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT BARBARIC WAR CRIMES you should find the nearest rope and hang yourself. What the fuck kind of cucked loser goes "Ew. I don't want information about my government! I can't handle that! Anyone who even thinks about GIVING ME SOMETHING is a fucking terrorist!"

Gender is biological and social.
Masculine and feminine roles are social constructs
Males and females learn these constructs through imitation and observation, developing a feeling of identity based on them over time. They are innately predisposed to imitate one or the other and then identify as it due to biology.
Some people are born with mis-wired brains so they learn to associate themselves with the wrong one. I don't know if anything that changes how they identify, and the best cure for the problem is to just let them assume the roles they want, as it hurts no one.
Boom, born wrong vs social construct contradiction solved righties

Holla Forums, stay on your own board.

Gender division of labor and gender family roles was largely abolished in the West, and even more in former Eastern Bloc countries. Something that ceased to exist can't be so heavily deconstructed as a social construct anymore.

SJW are mainly teens who made radically sounding ideology to describe ordinary and completely normal things in modern times, ie. tomboyish behavior in girls.

There's no really strong proof for this claim. Development research suggests rather something contrary: that even very little babies exhibit gender differences in behavior and cognition, which only increase during time and natural exposition to sex hormones.

triggered

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this image cannot be posted enough
neolib PC dogma does not have consistent internal logic

but it is
always
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality#Biological_factors

So you guys think this thing is a girl now because they took some pills and started larping ?

>chelsea manning
there is a nonzero chance that he was surreptitiously dosed with powerful mindfucking drugs while incarcerated/interrogated, and that his current gender-psychosis is a byproduct of this

Triggered?

nah, you are just retarded and a huge faggot that chokes on dicks
see

Simple yes or no question darlings

simple article to read, faggot

Bradley Manning got the files out on a bootleg Lady Gaga CD, they were always a girl in a mans body dude

Still not seeing anyone telling me a "Yes, I believe someone can swap sexes"

Anyone up for "manning up" and doing it ? How many pills or "emotional episodes" exactly till you can declare someone was "trapped" in the wrong body ?

hot

that road leads to fash

You don't have to believe it, fam, it's facts.

I notice you're still unable to give me a yes or a no here or any actual specifics.

How much are you going to beg for someone to type the word you want so you can revel in your own pettiness? Every reply you have gotten was a "yes" without a yes. You can continue with your retarded argument now.

i have always promoted science, faggot
cry and distract all you want, it changes nothing about the fact that you are literally a cocksleeve and your entire existence is that of a faggot

nice strawman, faggot
read the article

So you can't do it, huh ?

Because it's a stupid question. You can't "believe" someone can swap sexes, because the facts are right in front of you. Sex is defined by what specific genitalia and organs you possess. Someone gets their dick swapped out with a vagina and uterus, ergo they swap sexes. It's that simple. The process doesn't cause much harm and most people who undergo the process are happier afterwards, so I don't see why you would be against it unless you're a spooked faggot.

says the faggot denying science and reading a text clinging like a sad exposed faggot to his strawman loaded question
kek, pathetic
>>>/kys/

You can't continue with whatever argument you were going to make. You're not getting a yes until you make your dumb ass point. Go ahead, we're waiting.

A surgically inverted penis is not a uterus. Surgically altered labia are not testicles.

Lies

The technology is still young, famalam. One day we're gonna be like the Culture and able to change our sex with a thought, just you wait

Not an argument

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Raccoon mindset

wew lad
tbh we're either going to be underwater or fucking nuke ourselves all to hell way before any sci-fi fantasies come true

Manning was always a fucking weirdo. I love what she did but it's pretty obvious she had a thoroughly unjustified messiah complex. That's why it's hilarious that her story will always be tied to Assange's because Assange can come off as though he thinks he's saving the world but the difference is he's actually intelligent and capable of a lot of impressive shit, not some low level army officer who was in the right place at the right time. I would definitely recommend watching "We Steal Secrets", it's pretty sympathetic to Manning but after knowing the facts it becomes hard to think of her as anything other than a blundering moron.

Let me remind you of what was posted in
lly inverted penis is not a uterus. Surgically altered labia are not testicles.

I wonder what feminists will do when artificial
organ farming became reality MtF transgenders will have their own uterus.

Well you didn't ask "do you believe that someone can completely change their sex at this time?" you asked "do you believe someone can change sex, period?" which is perfectly possible and has been proven to happen in several different species. The only sexual characteristics that cannot possibly be changed, within our knowledge, is chromosomes, which themselves only direct the production of hormones that develop the other sexual characteristics (and can sometimes fail, which is why hermaphrodites exist). It really isn't that crazy a concept

does it matter if he's a moron?
she was brave, and did something important, that's what counts in my book

I did not ask the question. Furthermore, if your crystal ball is so accurate, give me winning lottery numbers.

Why is she doing the "ISIS finger" thing?

He had secretly converted to Islam in proson, and decided to change gender and pretend to be ordinary american transgender moron to avoid suspicion of being Islamist influence agent.

damn that's pretty clever.

Fuck off being the New York Times

Contrapoints told me that was the Nazi finger now before I nutted and closed the video

I like her.

we need more anarchofem posters

I was anarchist feminist before I found how faulty this idea is. Positive reception of feminism in our political movement is because women are stereotyped as weak victims in need of protection, feminism isn't really struggling with this stereotype (and gender stereotypes in general) becaise it's beneficial for women. Weak men are ridiculed and despised by both strong men and feminists, and they will be treated ok only if they declare themselves as homosexuals
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I don't write that there aren't serious social issues specific only to women, ie. contraception, abortion or family rights. I want to write that anrchist feminism as part of general feminist movement is aimed in realization of female reproductive strategies through gender sruggle, instead of demanding social emancipation.

Cause of transgender people is just one from many other problems. My point is that MtF transgenders are really oppresed, but not because they're a women, but because they're actually a men who try to break rules of gender. That's making them ideal target of attacks both from stereotypical gender conforming male side, but also feminists. They're just embodiment of weak boy to beat, and no surprise that they're beaten.

As they should be.

Gender is not simply deconstructed. It has a material basis that gives its rise. The fact that a human fetus in the womb, having XY chromosomes, causes it to grow a penis and testicles, is information that is translated into a material reality. This material reality is what allows it to reproduce itself, a superstructure growing and maintaining the base, with the base reproducing the superstructure, and so on.

Then there's the fact that when women get pregnant, they become much more vulnerable to things around them; they puke more, aching back pains from carrying the extra weight, and finally a gaping wound between their legs after the baby comes out which needs time to heal. Around that time, the man or the rest of the tribe is protecting the woman from predation, which is what happened in prehistory. This modern-day obsession with traps and dickgirls and their gender role shit is pure reaction to people not recognizing their subjectivities, which is totally appropriate because it's pure aesthetics of politics, nothing less. You can call yourself a woman, but all all I see is a man in a dress with shitty makeup and a gigantic Adam's apple. The recognition of new genders has no positive impact on the discourse of society, because their material reality is out of joint and does not even lead to the reproduction of communities and forms of life that would be a revolutionary basis for permanent, reproducible change.

We can extrapolate from Marx, Lacan and Deleuze that information that can reproduce itself materially and a subjectivity that embodies this material reality (that it can healthily reproduce) and can come to terms with it (that it can come to terms with its symbolic castration of it's Desire to possess it's own Mother sexually) is a healthy subject that can grow into a socially healthy being, so long as it obeys the Symbolic Law. Things that don't are fucked up and have to be repaired and restored, reordered, not celebrated as a new revolutionary subjectivity. Transgenderism is nothing more than a new ideology trying to force itself onto a material reality, striking out in its very impotence, with dire consequences for the subject itself.

go back to irc

NO U

Sick fuck. At least get something with a bit of pooper in it.