I really like them and I think Rojava is a very interesting experiment, but reading the history of them being used to disrupt local governments is really making it sounds like they're just puppets to foreign powers.
iraqi kurdistan is a flat out u.s. client state. probably too early to tell what will happen in syria
Nathaniel Sanchez
The US are quite well known to be the most bitten feeding hand. Them funding something don't always mean that something is their puppet.
Aiden Bailey
This, see
Christopher Turner
REMOVE PKK, ONLY TURK.
Connor Murphy
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Leo Cox
Syria, Iraq etc
Evan Wright
Why would Rojava want the US to bomb the regime? They aren't fighting Assad. The Israel thing doesn't make any sense either. If you support national liberation for Palestine but not for Kurdistan you are hypocritical moron.
Brandon Stewart
That's such a stupid analogy
Liam Hughes
How so?
Anthony Cooper
xDDDDDD
Isaac Mitchell
Palestinians were systematically excluded and segregated in their native land by a foreign group with the help of a foreign power. The liberation of Palestine means liberation from the conditions of virtual colonialism.
Kurds lived side-by-side with Arabs and other groups for centuries, they never had an independent country in the first place, their geographical spread came from their own migratory movements within the boundaries of the Ottoman empire, after WW1 they weren't segregated in the Arab countries until Kurdish nationalist movements made them so, etc. Not to mention that there are other ethnic minorities in the Middle-East, and you can't balkanize the place by giving every single one of them an ethno-state.
Elijah Gray
Syria literally colonized Kurdish areas with Arab settlers and by trying to forcefully arabize the local population. They also revoked the citizenship a huge part of the Kurdish population, so they were basically without any rights. The situation in Iraq and Turkey was even worse, both states attempted genocides against their Kurdish populations. Honestly, you have to be delusional to not recognize this situation as colonialism.
Colton Williams
There isn't a single people in a former colonial area that hasn't been played against others. It's a favorite imperialist tactic, and the British were particularly adept at it. With that I mind, I can definitely understand one such people starting shit so they can stop being treated like shit.
Alexander Thompson
What do you call Sykes–Picot Agreement
Anthony Rivera
Welcome to Rojava general 100000000 non-cyclical edition
Wyatt Thompson
How many non-cyclical threads have we had now? 3, 4?
Christian Foster
The answer to any question containing that phrase is "no"
Adrian Torres
you know jack shit about kurds. Kurds in turkey were and are treated like dog shit, as almost any other ethno religious group apart from arabs
Ian James
It's hardly fair to say they are puppets for doing so. By their nature they are the only tribe without a nation. Their people are inside the territories of other countries, so of course if they were agitating for independence they would be disrupting multiple regions and not just one.
Dylan Harris
:|
Jackson Nguyen
no, the ethnic cleansing claim has been proven a meme by the United Nations.
They're not US puppets, they temporarily allied with the US (and with Russia kurdistan24.net/en/news/b451ec1b-f144-46ea-8b65-e04da27b884f) to fight ISIS and other Islamist factions. It's important to point out that the PYD is essentially the Syrian branch of the PKK, which fights Turkey, a key US ally.
The Kurds are not a homogenous group (not that tankies understand this), the KRG is right wing, and friendly with the US and Turkey and disliked Rojava and the PKK to some extent.
The question is whether Rojava is viable or not, since it is weak, surrounded by enemies and sits on top of oil.
Ethan Mitchell
Lenin was used by the germans to disrupt the russians. Using dissident groups that fundamentally disagree with you to overthrow your enemy always backfires. Theocrats will blow you up, commies will liberate the people from your tyranny. Death to america tbh.
BO plz dont ban
Gavin Morris
so did Jews, and that hasn't been true in recent years, Saddam gassed Kurds and Syria discriminated against them.>>2031975 so? same can be said of the many countries that tankies support irrelevant bullshit Rojava isn't an ethno state
Nolan Howard
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William Peterson
KRG isn't even a monolithic thing. It's split between PUK and KDP and there's portions of it that are outright controlled and governed by PKK and their affiliates.
Luke Howard
That's literally the point of colonial borders, leave the countries to guaranteed violence by splitting and mixing and splitting ethnic/religious groups, athough sometimes it's just a random line in the sand. The British purposefully split Phastun lands in half down the Afg-Pak border for example.
Alexander Richardson
If they don't, they die.
Colton Watson
Yes, yes they are.
Elijah Collins
Whoa. Whatever do you mean by that? You should help support your comrades out there, my fellow comrade. t. notCIA
Nathan Myers
The irony is that there are tankies fighting for them in the IFB.