Why is American "leftism" so fucking weak?

Why is American "leftism" so fucking weak?

so is the American right to be fair. they're both closer to center than anything

There is literally nothing wrong with this

Literal near zero support of the lower class.

Due to
1. a lack of grasp of theoretical issues so notorious that Marx, Lenin and Trotsky all wrote about it (also true to England)

2. a bad political system that never allows them to properly explore alternatives

3. an educational system that is easily subjected to the conservative preferences of petty local authorities

4. the fact that the predominance of small property ownership and slave labour hindered the development of proletarian class consciousness in the 19th century as they were tying their bandwagon to someone else's political projects

5. the fact that the proletariat was mostly immigrant for many generations, which made cohesive worker's movements difficult

Do you want an honest answer? It's fractured into 1,000 different pieces due to identity politics and a need to one-up one another on a constant basis to virtue signal. Most don't even agree on more than a few principles.

American here. Do you think the fact that America sucks has more to do with the people inhabiting my country or do you think the material conditions had something to do with it?

It sucks because it was created by anglos

Don't be a hate criminal comrade.

FBI

Remember after Trump got elected and Americans kept using "working class" as a euphemism for "poor?"
The revolution will never happen here

A century of state repression from the Red Scare, to McCarthyism, to COINTELPRO.

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I don't understand how such a shitty country can still exist stably much less have as much power and influence as it does.

Because the American working class is so fragmented an alienated a workers movement is near impossible. If America was isolated for a few centuries giving the working class the time to unify then things would be better, but we don’t have that time. Also Commercializing of culture hit America the hardest, by far.

Because Leftist ideologies appeal to the dregs of society. Unlike in Europe, Canada, and Australia, the US has experienced over half a century of extreme exposure to and influence by negro cultural degradation. Couple that with urban life in general acting as a form of social and developmental hindrance, and you wind up with some pretty disgusting, weak, ineffectual, stupid people. So now we've got the likes of the super highly estrogenic Antifa, and then the assorted trashy non-whites groups like BLM, and those who've infiltrated and taken over portions of Antifa out West. It's a big shit-show. In a less urbanized, more homogeneously white country, of course people are tougher, more unified, more effective, and more driven. Also don't say try to differentiate these people from Leftists. They are indeed Leftists. Holla Forums supports their every move when it's convenient. Holla Forums supports the academic, media, and governmental so-called "Liberal" agenda at every chance. It's time we stopped trying to differentiate Holla Forums from them and instead accepted that Holla Forums is just an online extension of their propaganda network.

take your meds, Checkers.

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Because americans are fucking weak. Che and fidel should have filled your ass with nukes motherfucker

Go back to reddit, faggot.

Friendly repub here to tell you to fucking kill yourself.
Leftism in general is fucking weak it has always been, if an ideology does nothing but fail obviously the supporters aren't going to be too successful either

He didn't make the image, faggot

It's so weak conservative elites had to ally with fascist thugs in order to fight against socialism in the '20s.

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Early leftists, like the trade unionist socialists, were terrorized by the hit squads of the rich, criminalized in massive scare campaigns and outright extrajudicially murdered at times. This hampered the efforts of US leftists quite a lot, but the Red Scare did a much better job of that, as even remotely criticising the poverty stricken US was enough of a reason to be marked as a communist, denied work, harassed, or even jailed. Later leftist organizations, such as the Black Panthers, had their members murdered and their groups infiltrated and turned useless. Seeing a pattern here?

brainlet

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Where is this from? This is great!

Old school American socialism (in the Debbs/DeLeon/1910s IWW fashion) is probably the philosophy that most effectively combines socialist economic ideas with enlightenment individualist philosophy. It's pretty based imo.

The American left was substantial in the 1900's but has had to deal with two red scares, McCarthyism, COINTELPRO, a shit education system, and being at the nerve center for capitalism ever since the second world war.

the fact that armed european leftists didn't swarm germany in 1933 to kill hitler a la arabs intering iraq in 2003 to fight the americans proves how class cucked whites are

Also the fucking meme that land is plentiful here so there's less class struggle. This may have been true before the 20th century to a degree, but it became ideologically engrained and is now a dogma that goes against reality

Good historical materialist analysis you got there

shocked i tell you

Americans are given absolutely no formalized political education whatsoever (except if one of their teachers or local district schoolboards decides to push their own agenda, which will inevitably be bullshit because…), and so every American is left to fend for themselves. As a result every American develops their very own, completely unique, completely independent set of crazy ass lunacy that forms their own personal political "understanding". You will hear everything under the sun from Americans, like how socialism and capitalism is completely independent of the left-right dichotomy and authoritarianism vs libertarianism is the core of the left-right dichotomy, which is something I heard just like an hour ago.

In this fertile soil, where most Americans struggle to wrap their heads around even the extremely simple 'liberals vs. conservatives' dichotomy that is pushed at them, it's pretty damn easy to completely replace leftism with liberalism entirely. Americans just don't know any better because nobody has ever told them, they're working with bare scraps of the limited information that is given to them.

It's actually really depressing to me because I don't see how it could ever change without simply teaching a new generation. Since every American is wrong in their own unique, personal way, you have to decode and unscramble each American's fucked up understanding of facts one by one before you can try and convince them of anything.

oh so thats why the US engaged in an international project to crush socialism wherever it occurred?