On the Middle Class

I read Wage-Labour & Capital recently & it was very good. I've been really into Marxist theory for a few months now & while I've been slow to read much (due to time/habits/etc) I do think I've got a pretty good grasp of at least basic Marxist economics. What I have trouble though is figuring out where the Middle Class comes into all this.

I do know fundamentally there are only two classes - defined by own's relation to the means of production. Many in the middle class are ultimately members of the proletariat - as while they have a great deal more means of subsistance & luxury they are still just as much under the power of Capital. That said though the Middle Class has several fundamental differences. While for many members of the working class it is impossible for them to ever accumulate Capital - there are many members of the Middle Class who have the option of social & economic mobility. While only very rarely could they ascend to the 1% - it is still quite within the realm of the Middle Class' means to accumulate some small amounts of Capital (think a small business - maybe a not so small "small business" - etc). In Marx's time the Middle Class was not the behemoth that is now - at least in America. (Sorry I'm a burger) Yes the Middle Class is very much idealized by liberal philosophy here & I acknowledge it's shrinking - but I do feel pretty confused about how to ultimately factor in the Middle Class to my understanding of the socio-economic order. Considering how significant this "third class" is in at least the country I live - it seems vital to establish a solid world-view & eventually practical philosophy.

Maybe this is a little simplistic, but as far as I understand it the middle class is an ideological construction to make wage-slaves believe they aren't a part of the same class as fruit-picking immigrants or people who sift through trash for a living.
It's a liberal device for class division.

Capitalists - people who make money by already having money - property, companies, etc.
Working class - people who make money by renting their labor for a wage.
Middle class - people who make money by rending their labor for a wage, except higher.

Football players with a hundred million dollar contracts are still working class.

the middle class is a liberal invention to make the winners of the proletariat and the losers of the bourgeoisie think they are the same.

lmao, america doesn't even have a mythical 'middle class', certainly not anymore. Most households subsist on an income of less than $50,000, are in debt and living paycheck to paycheck.
Middle class = burger for prole

OP here.
True - like I said I do get that even monetarily lucrative careers (doctors/lawyers/etc) are still - for the most part - full of working class people just with more immediate means.

But what really has got me thinking tho is about how this "Middle Class' (I use airquotes because I don't really see it as a concrete class in the way the Proletarian & Bourgeoisie clearly are) has among it many small business owners.

In micro sense their lifestyle/interests/etc become very similar to the Bourgeoisie - and in fact even very small business owners are able to accumulate Capital - mimicking the Bourgeoisie's mass swindling of the value of the worker's labour-power - but realistically these small businesses are all but nothing compared to the true elite who harness the means of production. These small business owners really are excluded from the Bourgeoisie's mass stockpile of Capital the same as the Proletariat - yet these small business in a micro level do often operate similar to the larger corporations. Do the small business then act as further tendrils of Capitalism - beyond the real control of their owners & become mere commodities to the Bourgeoisie - I dunno I'm kinda thinking aloud here.

Also - does it mean anything when you have some well-paid/high-demand proletarians (like we said earlier - say a lawyer or other high-paid worker) who have more monetary power (if not direct Capital) compared to these psuedo-bourgeoisie small business owners who try to replicate the accumulation of Capital but who are ultimately - socially & economically - far weaker than these much more secure "workers"

There is an objective and observable difference in the needs and wants of an engineer making 150000 per year, and a supermarket clerk making 30000 per year.
Different parties target them, they even pay different percentage taxes, and they don't have the same views on politics.

Marx called it the petit bourgeoisie, the small capitalists.
And today the small capitalists are poorer than the wealthiest working class people.
It is a question of ethics then. Justin Bieber sells his own labor, while the local bakery sells the labor of 2-3 people staff. As in, the owner is making money from other people's labor.

I haven't read any modern socialist books, I have no idea how this is handled, this is just me speaking from the old school, when this problem didn't exist.

Lower, middle, upper and class are sociological terms that refer to income levels, and have nothing to do with actual economic class. A doctor, subcontracted to work at a general practice organ, who will make more than a bin man, is still proletarian.

The proletariat is that class which must subsist primarily off of selling its labour on the market, and the bourgeoisie is that properties class which subsists upon managing this labour and the capital it produces. Proletariat is crucially different from "working class" because proletariat really hits on the point of property.

A small business owner would be petite bourgeois.

True but the bourgeois notion of class is an arbitrary point on an income scale that differentiates between various degrees of consumption. It doesn't really tell us anything structurally about capitalism or how it operates.

I agree with you. That's why I think we should form an alliance with the petite bourgeoisie, because we share big capital as the main enemy.

Later on, we could always fight the petite bourgeoisie. But those are small fish. The real power lies at big capital.

Once again Holla Forums proves that orthodox M-Ls view society in such simplicit ways it's quite honestly laughable.
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I'm planning on reading Max Weber one day, but can you give me the quick rundown on what you just mentioned?
I'm going to university next year and I live in my country's capital, does that mean my interests do not align with other sections of the proletariat?

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M-Ls get bullied on here all day every day. The people in this thread are probably anarchists, leftcoms and other non-ML Marxists.

As I view it if you are able to live without working thanks to rents, stocks or a big business (not working or as the boss and owner who just "manages") then you are a bourgie. If you have to work, even if you own a restaurant or a small store, then you are working class.

Middle class is just working class who have better income but at the end of the day they still need to work.

The middle class is a sort of spook I guess. Rich proles or petite-bourgeoisie I consider "middle class" but they really only belong to either bourgeoisie or proletariat and not their own class.
Enough exist for porky to say "Look, you too can have a luxury lifestyle of you try harder!"

>If you have to work, even if you own a restaurant or a small store, then you are working class.
Isn't this exactly what the term petit-bourgeois was meant to describe?

Yes, but I like to include them in the working class because nowadays owning a small business isn't as expensive as it was when the term was coined and they are as fucked by the system as proles.

Not sure if this applies to marx's original writings, cause you know more than me but i understand theres more than 2 classes. Like Petit bourgeois and lumenprole. Its just proletariat and bourgeois are the only 2 that matter in the context of communism being inevitable.

this. no adult younger than 40 can be defined as middle class in this country.

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Small business owners in America have a complicated relationship with property.

I'm going to try to make my point simple so it might sound dumb.

Mom & Pops diner has to pay property taxes to the fed. So they are making profits off of the labor of others but the state is also profiting off of their labor, so they are both prole and bourg.

Angus beef has a land grant from the USDA they use to raise cattle on national park land. Angus does not pay taxes. Taxpayer money from Mom & Pops as well as the common working man pay for Angus beef grants and cover what would have been their taxes. The officers and Board for Angus beef do not work, do not manage, and profit off of taxpayer revenues and mostly do not pay taxes.

Walmart does the same thing with a promise to the city council to bring 5,000 new jobs if they get that premium parking lot space for free.

Comcast does the same thing. They promise to bring broadband internet to the city council if they get exclusive rights to the roadside hookups.

The local computer repair shop does not have the same property-state-law relations as mega-corporation because they don't have the same lobbying power. A person who retires must either have savings or passive income from their labor so they can continue to live.

A capitalist is always retired because they have a constant revenue streams and spend most of their time doing things of their own choosing. Board meetings are simply an inconvenience they have to deal with between breakfast and lunch.

A shop owner does not really choose how they spend their time because they are a bound employee of the state that must make their tax payments on time to continue renting the land they use for their business. This 'ownership' is a republican negative freedom, its a responsibility to maintain a publicly accessible business.

Thats why conservatives are always up in arms about muh taxes and view being a manager or landlord as a burden. They aren't wrong about getting but they are clearly mad at the wrong people.

I want off this ride.

Hey proles - I'm a petite bourgie

The only term you actually need is labour aristocracy because that's what is being talked about when US politicians mention the middle class.