Prager is at it again

it's a "socialist" government at the helm of a capitalist economy, there is no fundamental change in venezuela's mode of production ;)

Some comments

Why is the free market of ideas called yutoob such ass?

Do any of you think communism/socialism can actually be installed peacefully? And be maintained peacefully? Without the suppression of ideas that oppose the state?

Porky won't allow it.
Yes.

Yes and no. I think it can be started peacefully and attacked, rather than being the aggressor. In that case self-defence is 100% justified.

why are you such a pussy that you can't just use the nazi flag?

Sometimes they pay to have their shit run as ads, or they appear in recommended videos.

WebMing it now

Done

Hopefully yes but probably not.

Definitely, since not all socialist tendencies focus on state power. Many of them in fact see a far more limited role of the state than we have now under capitalism. It also depends on the success of revolutions on a global scale, it is imperative that no country find itself in the position of a socialist nation under siege the way the Soviets were. If Germany's revolution had succeeded then external pressure on the Soviet Union would have been greatly reduced and authoritarianism wouldn't have been as necessary to keep the country together and fight external threats, especially since red Germany probably would have led to the success of revolution in Hungary, Spain, and Italy.

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It's a fake uni.

thank you stalin friend, I now know that socialism is when the government does stuff.

What part of majority private businesses and market distribution do these capitalist fucks not understand?

yeah it's literally just what they call that fucking youtube channel; it's not a "university" in any meaningful capacity of the word

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I just learned that they have some weird cult called PragerForce that goes around to colleges doing gay shit like this.

every political system is enforced through violence, of course we don't give a shit about killing reactionaries.

Please take the Stalin mustache off, you know very well the Stalinist comintern and Stalin himself would have said that Venezuela is social-fascist.

I propose we start multiple leftist youtube channels and call ourselves universities.
This seems to work on burgers.

that videos is pure cancer. The one and only way to fight it it is dank memes and witt. Are there are any replies to it yet, akin to this?
youtube.com/watch?v=llIRgX4xL3s

I wish Finish bolshevik had a bit higher production values. He could call himself the Finish socialist university.
youtube.com/watch?v=8V2y86RCyM8&t=130s

I wish Finish bolshevik had a bit higher production values. He could call himself the Finish socialist university.
youtube.com/watch?v=8V2y86RCyM8&t=130s>>2027615

What misconception? There are many different kinds of socialism, and communism is only one kind. Don't be an idiot.

Any new system you try to "install" will be met with resistance and lives will be lost. Such is life.
No.
No.

You mean the cartoon pig that you guys like to throw around? Come to think of it, that pig looks a lot like papa Soros.

Every time.

I thought I had a screencap but at least I wrote down my older post that explains this.

It was never a mixed economy. Nationalizations were suitably compensated, and aside from that, private property remained untouched. What he did do that was much praised by socialists was redistribute land (you have no idea how terrible land distribution is in most of South America; redistribution is arguably the reason Castro sought USSR's protection), increase expenditure on health and education (two areas Latin American leaders love to slash), promote coops, create Communal Coucils and Urban Land Committees (community-building and small-scale direct democracy), subsidize basic products, turned some closed businesses into coops (again, with compensation) and plenty more I'm forgetting. Not to mention his election marked the end of banana republic-style oppression, such as routine torture of local opposition and leftis leaders by the police.

The best source I have for how much of their GDP was in the private sector is, ironically enough, Fox News, flat-out stating Venezuela isn't socialist, and 70% of the GDP was private in 2010. I looked for more current data and found numbers for 2015 on the site of their central bank. In that year, the private sector still controlled 68% of GDP.

foxnews.com/world/2010/07/18/socialism-private-sector-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade.html

bcv.org.ve/c2/indicadores.asp (under Agregados macroeconómicos, select the first line that starts with PIB and clique the button saying IR in front of it)

As to what fucked Venezuela up, I can sum up in two words: price control. Except for very specific circumstances (the most notable example being stopping a monopolist from overcharging), price control in a capitalist state has never worked. This should be tattooed on the forehead of every fucking government official in the world. It's doubly awful, because it not only decreases production and thus supply, but also decreases producers' productive capacity. The reason is very simple: this being capitalism, producers' were allowed to hoard. Every once in a while you might see something about the Venezuelan government busting some hoarder or other, but it's nowhere near enough. It takes a revolution to stop this practice.

You just had to be retarded

Excuse my newfaggotry but I checked PragerU's site for the first time and my god, this is like if someone adapted Ben Garrison's comics:

Those people are quit strange

Take the stache off now. You are not worthy faggot

So far this is the only reply I have found.
youtube.com/watch?v=-ceOOnBnCiA

:D

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Lmao!you don't fool anyone

In burgerlands do you'd be better off calling yourself a church.

Google Murray Bookchin.

Instituting a totalitarian state and calling it by another name does not make it not be a state no matter how much circlejerking anarchist hogwash you read.

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WEW

You do know that these people are literally jews right?

prageru.com/staff

Not surprising though, considering how much you love Trump's cabinet, and his family.
Nazis: The useful idiots for capital, regardless of whether it's "aryan" or jewish.

People need to start making parody videos of this junk.

rarely have I seen so much ownage with so little edible matter

awesome ending, will use in future!

There's nothing good about this. Nobody even checked if the land was fully producing before it was redistributed or if it produced at least one potato per year after it was given to someone.
As a result of that kind of laws, land distribution and home ownership were made even more terrible. Evicting someone is practically impossible, so (at least outside Caracas) people are selling apartments without a title, and those who received it without a title sell it to other people without a property title. If you come home one day and find out that your locks were changed, you're fucked.

Both are good only on paper, and don't actually do much.

Those started in the mid 80s, way before Chávez got elected.

Great, intelligent discussion. Love it!

Well that is a whole topic in itself: quite how is agrarian reform properly conducted? In Russia, it was a relatively simple matter of giving the peasants the ownership of the land they had been working for ages, at least before forced collectivization. In Latin America however, the landed class was, and still is, defined by immense latifundios which are ruled with an iron fist via armed goons. To the best of my knowledge, the only Latin American country that solved its land issue for good was Cuba, and their method sure can't be applied without a revolutionary process.

Which I guess is a verbose way of saying: what is to be done? How to enact land reform in Latin American without the full-blown authority that a revolution permits?

Yeah I agree, in other Venezuela topics I mentioned how one of Chavez's mistakes was not investing actual political power into these organizations. They could have been the seeds of soviets, but alas.

Well just about every country subsidizes at least a few goods. I don't have lists to compare, but I'm willing to bet Chavez added a lot of products to that list.