Does this board condemn antifa?

>does this board_
this board is not a single person with a single opinion

well.

*Does the majority condemn antifa?

butter?

we condemn them for leftist reasons, not for "violence" or whatever.
Replied honestly because of doggo, your thread is shit.

I mean
it's in opposition to Nazis though, what else are you gonna do when these people are organizing genocide on the streets?

Tankies deserve the helicopter tbh

It's so hard to take leftcoms seriously on this, when this holier than thou thinking in Italy could have potentially cost us the European revolution.

No

Frankly I don't care about nazis well being since they don't really care for ours. Is it the best solution to punch someone? Probably not. Is it satisfying? Yeah, it's satisfying.

Pick one.

Leftcoms single-handedly prevented world communism by impotently sitting in their armchairs when it mattered

I wouldn't want an anarkiddy as a roommate but at the end of the day they're still /ourguys/.

This whole #resist antifa thing seems based only around Trump, as if he started all the problems. In that sense they are useless and misguided. And violence and vandalism against proles obviously helps no one.

Why not

It seems to have evolved beyond that, I saw footage of them attacking a prison before. I think liberals may have accidentally memed themselves to death by peddling both antifa and BLM at the same time.

You're conflating Hilary moms on Twitter with people who crack black/red flags over dudes' heads.

It's not just about Trump.

The problem is who is a nazi.

Is a pacifist Not Socialist a nazi?
Is a race realist a nazi?
Is a white nationalist a nazi?

I would say that the guys that want to fuck with you and attack you, yeah fuck those guys. But why give a pass to a bunch of guys that fuck with pacifists and people that aren't nazis?

Fuck, antifa has hit reporters. (Take a shot every time they are aggressive towards time pool )

Good. The media deserves it.

Yes, Yes, Yes.
It doesn't matter if racist violence is done privately or by the state.
The only race realist who deserves to live is a race realist who wants to abolish private property.

Why would you want to associate with them tho.

They are actually stopping your ideology from propagating because people associate comunism and socialism with them and you people seemay to nothe want to disassociate from them for God knows why.

I understand that the left is collectivist but fucking common

It depends of the media. I didn't even mention from what outlet or paper or wathever they were from yet you seem fond of the idea of fucking smothering reporters.
Kinda authoritarian don't you think?

Answer to all three: yes.

Now fuck off back to Holla Forums.

The only people who saw what happened at these Confederate protests and walked away thinking antifa were the bad guys is you, Holla Forums.

This is getting more than a little pathetic. This claim has been made hundreds of times and clearly the opposite is happening.

The only thing I don't condemn is America burning in nuclear hellfire

i only ever see liberals doing that
communists are well aware the red army defeated nazi germany, not america or britain

Antifa should be more like Greek antifa
youtube.com/watch?v=ZilNNQUtEvM

How so

Everywhere I see socialism is being demonized because leftist is full of radicals

let's be honest here, that simply isn't true.

Yes.

pacifism requires a pacifier.

You're right, some bumfucks thought they were being mean to the 20th century tributes to people who defended the rights to own their own fellow man as private property.

Of all the centuries of America to defend

Why the fuck would you want to defend the 19th

I just sat through a video by an American gay for cop dick talking bout how the officer that shot Philando Castile 7 times during a stop for a broken taillight dindu nuffin cuz he smoked weed and "cops are sworn to protect us".

I support Antifa for beating up plebs like this who you just can't talk sense into no matter how much logic and patience you use with them.

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Is it really so bad to draw on the memory of the soldiers who gave their lives fighting fascism if you live in Britain, France or America? A lot of working class people have not-so-distant relatives who gave their blood to fight fascism in WWII. As p.roblematic as it is I feel like this is a progressive aspect of popular culture/history that we can work with.

That Antifa video of them guys smashing up that neo-Nazi's flat was sick. Oh, how the aut-right cried and wailed in the comment section…*slurp-slup-slup*

Nationality's just a spook.

A lot of people think radical demons are cool. Especially since the people demonozing the left are pieces of shit.

Some here like antifa, some only like them because Holla Forums doesn't like them, some hate them, and some treat them like a non-issue and don't care. Your never going to a clear one sided position on most things here besides the obvious leftist ones. tbh in my opinion, out of all of those, the anons who like antifa groups just because Holla Forums hates them are the worst because at least those who legitimately like antifascist groups put up arguments and defences for their poistion then just that they take some obscene enjoyment from watching it

antifa does shit which doesn't even make sense

want to punch Nazis? fine, whatever

but then they often times end up punching Trump-fags, who are clearly not fash, but just retarded

yes, because they're morons, not because we are moralists
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They aren't collaborating with liberals they ARE liberals.

No, they are cool.

I dont mind idiots getting punched, but their lack of vision, organization, discipline, and ideological education is a major problem
They are no more than an angry teenager mob looking for random shit to break, and the fact that so many people considers them leftists just makes the job of actual leftists that much harder

They are the most far left and far libertarian as you can go, what's not to like.

One that can be useful if your nation ever fought against fascism in its history.

nigga get real

This. Imo Antifa needs to change in two major ways…

A) Be more selective about who you label a fascist. Not just because most Trumpfags or people like Milo genuinely aren't fascists, but because labelling mainstream conservatism as fascism makes you look like a bunch of paranoid buffoons who attack anybody that disagrees with you.

B) They need to stop imitating violence. They should work to find nonviolent ways of disrupting fashy demonstrations and use those as a first resort. For example they could shout down people, or climb up and sit in on a stage to disrupt a speech, sit down in the middle of the street to block a march, etc. This doesn't mean take violence off the table, but they should be focusing on readiness, on-the-spot retaliation and self defence. The best thing they can do is come to people likely to be targeted by fascists (including whites), and say to them that they are there to protect them.

If you voted for Trump you were either duped or supported a fascist movement.

The duped are waking up, and the rest need to be ground into dust.

And then communists who use this spook turn into some kind of nazboloids themselves. Such shit happened in my east yuro country(Poland), with parts of our party spearheading the purges of 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧cosmopolitanians🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 from the army, academia etc. in 1968 with the lovely chants like "Zionists to Zion!", I'm more than sure similar things happened in the entire Warsaw pact countries.
It's not a mistake that a shit-ton of people rooting for the current extra-conservative party were a part of the pre-1989 regime.

could we stop raping the words

The Trump movement is a domestic expression of fascism, which has existed under previous regimes more commonly in foreign policy.

Honestly, the more I learn about them, the more sympathetic I am, especially after seeing the Charlottesville white supremacists mobbing the protesters on the first night. People have a right to defend themselves, and we now know that neo-nazis will take the opportunity to terrorize local communities if given the chance. Random smashy-smashy is probably unproductive in most areas, but to think I'm going to put a few broken limousine windows on the same moral field as outright neo-nazis is fucking laughable.

One thing Antifa groups need to start doing though is ingraining themselves in local communities. Get involved in events, peaceful activism, and charity; the media will ALWAYS try to smear them, but if Antifa is well-liked amongst local community groups, the smear tactics will have limited impact.

I generally agree with what you're saying, but there are defensible arguments for calling Trump's movement akin to fascist. He certainly takes from their playbook but lacks the intelligence or tact of an authoritarian dictator.

Ancaps deserve the wall tbh

When will this meme end? On top the following conditions: that the working class was in large part heavily disarmed by the State and communists groups impeded by every other political persuasion (including the "socialists"), the Italian communist party led by members of the communist left created the fronte unico sindicale (united trade union front) and the Guardie Rosse (Red Guards) as units to fight the fascists in the street who wanted their heads and, not just the fascists, also the cops of the State which relentlessly (as before) attacked them, and they fought until the very end, until the farcical March on Rome saw every single supposed opposition to the fascists welcome them with open arms.

they accomplish nothing

If Trump is a Fascist, then every other neoliberal president we've had so far in the last 20 years has been fascist albiet more pleasant sounding and anyone who has voted for any of them suppoted fascism which isn't completely off the truth

*50 years

Violence is going to help the alt-right no matter what. Antifa needs to stop the protesting altogether or protest peacefully. Or demonstrate to the world that alt-right are the aggressors, and this may even mean to be willing to be the victims if they want to demonstrate in public against the alt-right.

Any violence at these protests will always be blamed on the left and used to further police power, government power. And remember, Trump is in office, so any powers he gets as a result of blaming mass violence on the left will be used against all leftists.

theconversation.com/how-should-we-protest-neo-nazis-lessons-from-german-history-82645?utm_content=buffer15821&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

And remember, even when they have all the media exposure of how a white supremacist plowed a car into a crowd of whites and blacks, they still blamed it on the left.

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