Homeless Hate

Homelessness creates psychological problems and rarely the other way around. There are a dozen sociological studies on this, you complete tool.

Also I love how right-wingers have to change every discussion on homelessness into a discussion on mental illness.
It's like confronting the causes of homelessness are too difficult so they move the goal posts to an individual failure of crazy people.

"A homeless area" implies a place where homeless people go to use some makeshift shelter. That just looks like a druggie spot.

Kill yourself and please kill whoever else thinks helping addicts and the homeless isn't worth communists time

homeless user here. i prefer precariat to lumpenprole beause im self educated and dynamic, just caught in a precarious situation.

i lost my whole 20's because I naively thought that going to school was the right thing and that working a minimum wage job would somehow lead me to a better opportunity.

i lost all my friends the day i lost my apartment. the day i stopped paying rent was the day i lost my humanity in everyones eyes, because thats the unshakable worldview everyone is locked into. peoples value is not seen in a person, but in dollars and cents.
its really sick. i personally feel free from mental illness in all situations where I am by myself and can relate to the world without the mediation of markets. I feel that I 'go crazy' when I try to fit into society somehow. The society is sick, and not the individual trying to relate to it, because society rejects personhood and treats the infinite human as 'citizen cardholder'.
i use drugs because i need to forget that i dont have a pot to piss in. if there were a place that wasnt heavily guarded and survailed that i could just use, store my stuff, and work, without wage relation or any money involved then yeah i would 'contribute to society' but until then I will let the air out of the tires of every frozen yogurt delivery car, steal nice shoes, and spraypaint funny classwar insiting shit in nice neighborhoods.

you're an edgy lifestylist and should find a way to support yourself, i hate people like you that claim to have 'dropped out of society' and don't see how you're just leaving the rest of society to hold the bag

and really spray painting edgy graffiti doesn't 'incite class war' it just fucks up something someone likely worked very hard to attain. and letting the air out of a truck drivers tires just makes his work day 10x shittier.

i'm all for stealing nice shoes, though, go for it. just stop with the edgy bullshit, it just fucks over the lives of everyone else that has to work still while you fuck around like some hippie liberal stuck in the 1960's.

it's not that they 'aren't worth the time' but if someone has no intention of fixing themselves, then who the fuck cares anymore, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. this is especially true for shit like drugs. in my special snowflake communism, drugs are legal and treatment is widely available. someone who has no intention of ending their addiction will just immediately go back to their habit upon release. people should be responsible for their own shit still, but for some reason, it seems a lot of lefties think communism means no responsibilities and everyone can just be a lazy fuck. if someone isn't putting in the effort themselves, or even worse, if they actively ignore good advice/help when it's being put right in front of them, then yeah, they can get fucked

Wew you edgy faggot.

A+ analysis you have there, faggot.

Kek what? The dude got fucked. Even if he made mistakes who cares, that doesn't mean that he should be doomed to crippling poverty. What the fuck a society that threatens people with a gun pointed at their heads has no right to call itself a society.
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S P O O K Y

since when did work equate value? i want a society where work is abolished, why should i care about property? what are you doing on this board m'spooked.
if there was any way out for me then you could call me a lifestylist but im unemployable due to the lack of necessary conditions like access to food clothing shelter stability showers so fuck off.

Read pic related. The tl;dr is that the "community mental heath centres" were doomed to fail

The tl;dr is that the CMHA completely bypassed the traditional state system of institutions for the mentally ill, with a flawed replacement that focused almost entirely on prevention - not treatment - of mental illness.

Maybe because the homeless are disproportionately mentally ill?

Yeah, we're going to need a citation on those, pal

No one here is arguing that they shouldn't bring back institutionalize care.
Your first claim was projecting the claim that my claim was that homeless people were somehow socialists trying to take out capitalism. ( )
Then you argued that Leftists support "criminals and the homeless." Providing no evidence and again projecting an argument upon us. You then went on to argue that socialists support liberal de-institutionalization( >>2017828 ) and that we think that crazy people can be used in revolutionary activity. And it should be clear to you now that the former is not supported and the latter is again projecting what you think we think without understanding our position.
I congratulate you on somehow weaving between several position and claims while holding up nothing as evidence, well until this last post where you cite a book.

Again this is outside the scope of the original topic which was about how liberals and liberal ideology view poor people. Ironically here you are framing the dialogue with underlying assumptions such as: the poor are poor because it is there fault (in this case because they are crazy); assuming that simply reinstating an institutionalized system will get rid of homeless people that 'have an excuse' for being homeless (aka the 'other' homeless people earned/deserve their homelessness).
Whatever, again mentally ill people are best treated in mental hospitals we agree on this. But ultimately that agreement is a non-issue as only 25% of homeless people quantity as mentally ill, which leaves a large majority of people as homeless. This seems to contract your claim that mental illness and homelessness are invariably linked.

I was homeless for four months and I still think you guys are dumb

Nice idpol there. (I was X therefore you can't talk on X)

The activities of the homeless in the stream that the OP posted gives me the impression that they're not mentally functioning at 100% .The OP assumes that the stream has been posted because the account is run by some neo-liberal that's just being a dick to the homeless for the lulz, and has no legitimate concerns with the activities of the homeless in that area.

1. The homeless in the stream are a public nuisance
2. The homeless that are mentally ill tend to also be public nuisances
3. Creating a stream to raise awareness of probably mentally-ill homeless people being a public nuisance isn't just "neoliberals kicking the oppressed while they're down"

Can the homeless anons in this thread attest to

Wow, you opened my eyes. If it were Hans running the banks,state, and corporations instead of Schlomo you would have never been homeless. I never thought of it that way.

Well…

And being a non jew will just make the landlords suddenly care about the tenant's well being? I'm sorry you're just now learning this but all landlordsare shifty regardless of race.

What are you trying to prove exactly?

Good point, I think cities bring out the worst in humanity regardless of ethnicity

you are blowing my mind dude

What is that like 90% of all landlords there? Find a little chart like that in Wyoming or whatever and see what names come up.

civicdashboards.com/state/wyoming-04000US56/homeownership_rate

I think that there shouldnt be private property, and therefore the landlords and renters are the public neusence. The only institution theyve established to asuage the problem is not providing food shelter or opportunities for advancement, but to surveil them.

Stop licking the boot heel of property and stuff to uphold the standards of 'public order'(whatever rights and standards afforded to the bourgeois CLASS), peak liberal.

The only reason there are smashed 'things of value' is because people gave arbitrary commodities value in the first place. 👏the👏things👏dont👏have👏value👏in👏and👏of👏themselves👏

Any population of landlords will be disproportionately Jewish because of the history of Jews being forced into usury and the Jewish tradition of continuing the family business.

It's not fucking hard to not be a cunt to other proles, fuckwit. This was the point I was trying to make about the Left's backhanded defense of criminals and the mentally ill

As if any Christian peasant wouldn't have sold his children to escape a life of endless drudgery in favor of being a medieval loan officer

Quite the opposite actually. I don't think that the person posted it for the lulz, I think that they care about their community and that they see the homeless people as a threat/nuance that needs to be gotten rid or at-least vacated from that area. The whole "peak neo-liberal ideology" refers to two points. The first is the fact that instead of the community reacting to the homeless group with housing, Drug rehabilitation clinics, (and mental wards) that are just pushing them off to the next town/community. Of course this reaction would require massive statewide welfare efforts and is something outside of the video recorder's scope. The best way to stop the homeless pandemic is to address its root cause which in this case is the current economic system which requires unemployment and consequently homelessness.
The second point is the spectacle of homelessness, where a bunch of spectators can view these people as entertainment. Which twofold allows them to view these people as beneath them socially as almost objects, and to also see themselves as objective observers independent of what is happening to these people. And to build off of the latter point it allows people to individualize society wide issues, they can look at 15 or so homeless on the stream and think to themselves “These people aren’t the product of a complex that fucks over the poor, unlucky, or destitute. They are just people that made poor choices and should suffer their individual mistakes outside of the larger context.”
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Your premises do not support this conclusion, and it is in itself just a claim.
But even this claim I agree with, because one I don't think the stream was created by a liberal necessarily. And two I don't think that this steam is " "just" neoliberals kicking the oppressed while they're down". Note on the 'just', I think that it is neo-liberal ideology (not people that identify as neoliberal or liberal) that allows people to think themselves virtuous for protecting a community while kicking the oppressed while they are down.

The point isn't muh poor oppressed Jews, it's to give historical context that explains why Jews are so frequently in that sort of work. You fucking idiot.

It's brought up all the time as if it's some kind of tragedy that kings "forced" the Jews into being fucking loan officers

Obviously you would think so since that's how you see it when it's brought up for any reason at all, like above where I brought it up to explain demographics, you hypersensitive baby.

I think anyone familiar with the period that wasn't an anarchy-primitivist would much prefer to be a banker than a peasant

That would have been a sin user, people back then were dead scarred of Hell and the Devil.

Not to mention that usury was a sin, which was why the responsibility had to be given to some minority group.

Their choices have nothing to do with the "preference" of a contemporary individual. Many people did believe at that time that usury would damn them, so they wouldn't have and didn't. Not only that, but much of the peasantry was attached to feudal manors as serfs, so many couldn't do anything beyond what the lord of the manor wanted.

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Dude most homeless people are mentally ill, are you retarded? That or drug addicts who have burned all their bridges. A very small minority of homeless people are there because of just financial problems and very seldom become chronically homeless.

The standard left wing talking point you should be using (which makes sense) is "muh Reagan" closing down all the mental institutions and letting these people onto the streets.

t. Holla Forumsack who worked in social services for the homeless

Almost every president from Kennedy onward has been crippling America's mental health infrastructure so no one here supports the position "le evil Reagan."

This is just wrong, sure a large minority are when compared with the average among the rest of the population but definitely not 'most'. It seems that you are suffering from what many people like to call perception bias, where you only come into contact with the crazy homeless people on a whole (as they are the minority of the population that are drawn towards your social service sector and thus the most noticeable). Also kek, I worked in a nursing home does that automatically make me an expert on retirement policy, alzheimer's research, and the nursing home industry?

Make an argument next time m8.

fuck businesses and fuck "business owners"

banking wasn't nearly as profitable in pre-capitalist Europe as it is today

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