Here's a thought: Whenever a fascist starts talking in right-wing conservative circles (who are normally very pro-free...

Here's a thought: Whenever a fascist starts talking in right-wing conservative circles (who are normally very pro-free market) about having a socialist economy, I've noticed that a lot of them suddenly start listening simply because a Fascist is saying it instead of a Communist.

Is it possible to get the Fascists do most of the heavy-lifting for us with regards to moving far-right people leftward on economics through rhetoric and then sneak in at an opportune moment to take advantage and shift it to our favor?

Just trying to play chessmaster here.

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Stop posting that image all the time.

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We could just go full internet espionage and subterfuge by posing as fascists and employing deep infiltration tactics to tear up communities from the inside out.

I can see that backfiring easily. Just don't reveal yourself as a socialist, instead take the "paleoconservative" position of hiding your power level and despooking them incrementally

I think, historically, they did exactly that but playing us instead, using the rhetoric of subjecting capitalism to public scrutinity and rational planning and then privatizing air when they get into power.

I also think that it would make it way too easy for liberal centrists to show the "suspicious similarities!" between us and Fascists. (assuming that what you're asking us to do is to create Fascist black propaganda with anti-capitalist tones)

The best thing we can do is to keep reminding everyone that most Fascists were never anti-capitalists or even anti-liberal capitalists in policy and that there are many ties between right-wing libertarianism and Fascism. Remember, the Fascists you're talking about are brainlets who swallowed propaganda as fact, the Fascists and plutocratic elites always had an understandment that no matter how far their rhetoric went, they would never interefe with capitalism.

Nazis, for example, will sometimes say shit like "Marx was right, but it wasn't the bourgeois, it was da joos!" and a good number of right wing conservatives will actually nod along with this bullshit.

Obviously, the goals of Communists and Fascists are not at all aligned, but it does have open the potential to flip the script.

I'd say paleo-con is about as close to fascist you can get within burger mainstream right-wing politics. Buchanan is highly revered on Holla Forums.

I'm referring specifically to some of the ideas of Leo Strauss. Don't take this as advocating paleoconservatism at all.

Good luck doing this shit in practice. I hope you do acknowledge that most libertarians do not actually take fascists seriously. If you wanna spread socialist economical ideas, you have an easier time skipping libertarians and going straight to fascists themselves and start converting them to nazbol.

I'm dead serious, converting a nazi to nazbol is much easier than converting a libertarian to fascism.

Who could've guessed!

Niccolo Machiavelli is a great example of this btw

Feel free to call me a brainlet for getting a lot of my perspective on him from Adam Curtis, but wasn't he pretty much the arch-neocon?

That's how my old philosophy teacher described him and himself to me at least. I can't say that I'm any less of a brainlet then you in this case :^)

Strauss has been influential among mostly neo-cons but i don't deny some of his ideas have interested fascists, i remember TRS talking about him once. It's funny really, a big time jewish paleo-con, Paul Gottfried not only coined the term paleo-con but also was the first to coin the term Alt-Right.

Most of neoconservatism's distinctions from paleoconservatism line up well with fascism, TBH.

Wouldn't surprise me honestly. My philosophy teacher seemed more like a kind of fascist than anything else. Still, there's some truth to what he's saying, despite being a complete reactionary.

I agree in reality the differences are practically superficial, it's just that paleo-cons are a bit more edgy or rather blatant i'd say in regards to racialism, nationalism, and other really spooky shit. This is why i mentioned Gottfried who was a mentor of Richard Spencer, also some other paleocons have spoken at conferences about race and shit.

"I once enjoyed a close personal relation with Richard Spencer" - Paul Gottfried.

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But fascists are liberals. They can't swing people left on economics when they're to the right themselves. The very term privatization comes from Nazi Germany.

fascists are identical to neoliberals when it comes to economic policy