AMA

Actual LLCO Cadre here.

My organization is trying to move toward more transparency with the public about who we are, what we are doing, etc. There is a lot of misinformation and rumor mongering about LLCO, so I figured I'd open myself up for questions about my org.

If you have a legitimate question or concern, I'll try to answer (within reason) so long as it doesn't violate org security. I'm more hoping to answer -organizational- questions, and questions related to practice here rather than ideological/theory, but I'll try to respond regardless.

I'm not here to recruit/raise donations. And I'm not a regular leftypol user (Nor am I aware of any of our FW cadre who use leftypol). My goal is purely to answer questions, and hopefully, clear up confusion about who we are, what we are doing, what we uphold, etc. If there is a "leftypol" discord server, I'll be happy to pop in there too and chat.

Other urls found in this thread:

llco.org/combat-bourgeois-culture-by-building-new-culture/
youtube.com/watch?v=Azw5UBDlV_k
reddit.com/r/islam/comments/6vk1j0/from_a_muslim_perspective_why_did_so_many_places/
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Who is your leader? Really, I mean.

How would you foresee an eventual war between the first and third world playing out?

To what extent have you abandoned materialism? llco.org/combat-bourgeois-culture-by-building-new-culture/

Read Grasmci. The superstructure is reciprocal with the base. You have a vulgar understanding of materialism, that can lead to retarded Leftcom positions such as "the Holocaust may have not happened because there is no materialist profit motive".

Comrade Uziel currently serves as Director-General of the Central Directorate (Which is essentially a kind of organizing committee for our party), and thus "leader" of the organization. We try to emphasize that we view the current central directorate as a temporary body - We are aiming to phase out first world leadership to a primarily third world central committee as soon as possible (Which is basically once we achieve logistical stability/financial independence).

Following PF's purge, it was decided to scrub away PF's cultism, and that we should DE-emphasize the role of first world people as leaders of the organization - thus why comrade Uziel maintains a quieter public image than Screwball ("PF").

You said in the other thread you are not MTWs. So what communist tendency you adhere to, complimentary to the Third Worldism?

Would you be open to working with the IWW?

Did you make a thread at this time specifically so that Americans would be less likely to post in it?

We don't see Global People's War as a "war" in the traditional sense. We don't advocate literally sending tanks and bombers from the third world against the first world. We see Global People's War as an orchestrated geo-political encirclement of the first world. As socialism spreads throughout the third world, the Imperialist states become increasingly isolated economically and politically. Cut off from the exploitation of the third world, the Imperialist states will be forced to "re-proletarize" (It should be clarified that we do not believe there to be "no proletariat" in the first world, but rather, that the proletariat is not large enough or stable enough to sustain revolution at this time). The Proletariat of the USA & Europe will expand from a segment of the population into the majority, at which point, revolution becomes feasible in the imperialist states.

For this reason, we don't maintain fantasies about "punishing first world people" or forcibly relocating first world people as the Sakaists do. By the time GPW is in it's final stages, first world people as a whole will stand to benefit in the economic and political sense from revolution as much as anybody else.

Ah, but this is prime leaf hours

This pretty much aligns with my own views. LLCO seems based.

"MTW" originated as a compromise between two differing factions in proto-LLCO. One faction (the "LLCists") of the leadership saw Maoism as a dead end ideology, Maoism as ideologically flawed, etc. The other faction, the "MTWists" (Who were mostly former MIM leaders, including Zake Cop, STP, and I believe Shubel Morgan, etc) thought that by claiming "Maoism" we could Hijack the Maoist movement, and steer it closer to the left-maoist politics of the 1960's (which were essentially proto-LLCist). It was more a strategic move rather than any actual commitment to Maoism.

The "MTWists" won out, and for a short while, we committed to their strategy of essentially trying to "push the MLM movement to the left". Eventually, a lot of the MIM faction ended up getting pushed out of the organization by the faction centered around PF (To be clear, this was before he totally lost his mind) and their strategy was abandoned, along with "MTW".

Some of the primary differences between LLCism and "MTW":

LLCism rejects the Sakaism and racialist idpol of MTW. We reject their micro nationalism/national liberation focused strategy to building global rev in favor of Global People's War,, and their vulgar definition of "all POC = Proletarians, all whites = bourgeoisie"). While maintaining revolutionary China as the greatest stride toward communism so far, We maintain a much more critical analysis of the history of revolutionary China, and particularly of Mao Zedong. While upholding the USSR as a genuine attempt at building socialism, we are a lot more critical of the soviet experiment and of Stalin. We reject the theory of productive forces put forward by Marxist Leninists in the Stalin era & Later put forward by the right-Maoists. We reject what we consider "police narrativism" of history, which is essentially, history being re-written to favor current struggles within the party.

It's late afternoon/early evening where I'm at. Not intentional!


We're open to working with all genuinely anti-imperialist groups. We understand that errors were committed under our past leadership, particularly around 2009-2012 in regards to hostility toward other groups. We are rectifying that, and aiming to work with other groups on the ground - both in the FW and TW, both nominally communist & non communist on anti-imperialist work.

So basically you went backwards on every front? Abandoning MIM, Cope, Stalin and Mao? What's the fucking point imbecile, you sound like a Trotskyist.

We don't "abandon Stalin and Mao". Mao was by far the greatest revolutionary of the 20th century - but simultaneously the greatest counter revolutionary. Having some degree of critical thinking/not blindly worshiping and dismissing any criticism as propaganda is not equivalent to "abandoning".

Do you consider Greece, and other failing Southern European Nations first or second world?


I don’t think you understand the situation on the first world very well. If imperialism was crushed the Bourgeois in the first world would be more likely to turn to automation. This would normally cause a crisis in capitalism through a falling rate of profit. However UBI could stop this.

How infiltrated do you think you are? How do you defend against it?

I mean only answer these if they are not compromising.

Literally who

Compared to most radical groups in the US, probably less than average. We have dealt with several people who we believe have been out-right infiltrators in the US. We've had more trouble with people who we believe are state agents working outside the org, gangstalking, etc.. Some of the shit we've encountered has been outright bizarre.

The state is employing a lot new tactics in the online sphere. The "Alt Right" crowd have actually had more success than the left in uncovering it. People need to pay attention to what the reactionaries on right wing boards (eg, Holla Forums) uncovered in regards to state activities against them. A lot of the same shit is being used against the left.

It's me from the other thread:

1. What makes the praxis of the LLCO different from Maoism-Third Worldism?

2. Would you please respond to this video?
youtube.com/watch?v=Azw5UBDlV_k

What do you make of the responses in this reddit thread concerning Islam and socialism?

reddit.com/r/islam/comments/6vk1j0/from_a_muslim_perspective_why_did_so_many_places/

Post a pic of your hand to prove you're not white.