Can we get a lefty version of one of these threads going?

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Didn't know Stirner was a precursor to new age.

it's supposed to just be enlightenment, don't know how else to depict that

Open up and destroy your seventh spook, my dude.

Those are chakras…

Roo is fully aware that Lenin never claimed labor aristocrats were bourgeois, right?

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Same but instead of the meditating bs at the end I got myself. so it's a pic of me at the end.

So true.

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Pretty much the jist of all right-libertarian writings.

Accurate. If SJWs realized how amoral Foucault really was, they'd ditch him and pick up Chomsky instead.

wtf i love foucault now?

nice

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law

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Explain?

I still think it’s worth a read.

Dude what.

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He thinks socialist countries should give up there sovereignty to an international economic union. He also thinks communes should function as a replacement for the family.

A global communist society is the goal of every communist, you stupid nazbol.
And his idea for communes are just an optional idea he tacked to the end of his book.

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Isn't Nagle a TERF?

Oh god is she?

needs no explaination

From what I gather that's a rumour people on twitter started because she dared to put quotation marks around the word.
But why's it relevant anyway?

Yes, this is why I could never get into Stirner. He always came off as an eternal 5-year old, "wahhhhh I have no obligation to you waaaahhhh".

I mean the books have a great point and all, but it is true some things are inexcusable in egoist theory, oh though even if he was a good guy.

He is hilarious though. Great stuff if only to disprove the false collectivism individualism dichotomy.

I don't think SJWs like Foucault as a person, they just like his method.

wtf I love Marx now !

Whoops

foucault wasn't even a pedo. he just wanted age of consent to be questioned the same way he wanted all other limits on sexuality to be questioned.

Paying dues to a commune sounds lame as fuck.

It contains less theory than the principles of communism and especially the 10 planks are awful. Though my flag might imply otherwise, I don't dislike Marx.

The Manifesto isn't really all that good when it comes to actual theory, you are correct.

When anyone asks if they should start with the manifesto, recommend principles of communism and wage labour and capital instead

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Was it any good?

If they used his method or understood his work they would not be so sure of their moral superiority.

That's what I'm saying. They don't care about who Foucault was as an individual, they only like using his methods to question sexual norms and limitations.

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so he's just like the vast majority of socialists, then?

This is a nice thread

At letting us know just how depressing fully industrialized and post-industrial capitalist society is and the prospect of revolutionary subjectivity against it nigh impossible, yes.

Ever wonder why it seems workerist resistance to capital has disappeared, why workers don't know to view themselves as a distinct class versus another? It's because automation and the confluence of labor and capital has completely blurred the line. The prospect is even more depressing than in Debord's spectacle, in which there's just the distraction of universal commodification. For Camatte in that text at a certain level of industrialization you don't even need a bourgeois class to make production continue; the bourgeoisie is effectively a superfluous entity that is just like everything else only symbolic. Meanwhile, the proletariat is domesticated; no longer is it clearly dichotomized in the factory unit, noticing itself and its peers in blue and the oppressor in the high room with the top hat. We just wander in this world now, incapable of, if we do at all, putting up a fight against the true enemy of the private property relationship, only seeing its consequences. Also despite being a Marxist communist the author in the text also offers a big critique of Marxism, or at least a critique of the general assumptions most Marxists still have as implying a repressive consciousness.

"What I expected" has the image of a primitive man, based on how usually Camatte is viewed as a primitivist, anti-technological theorist, but Camatte only rails against industrialized capitalism. He would be much more accurately characterized as instilling crippling depression into everyone who takes a little serious look at this text (this one, because before that he was a Leninist, heavily involved in French-Italian working class organization, even in May '68 with the Lettrist and SI, and his texts did not yet have this nihilistic and pessimistic realization in them he came to later).

Sounds great.

Too bad most of the images thus far suck.

nazbols.jpg

Hardt + Negri literally deny the existence of imperialism. This book is utter trash.

this

This one wins.

Actually what they're saying is that we're past imperialism now, in a sort of new post-imperialist world where imperialist intervention more resembles the monopoly of proprietors regardless of their nationality, where they gamble their own nations away on the market.

Which is stupid. Sure, you can say that about warring imperialist nations but what about colonized nations like Palestine, Kashmir, Native Americans?

But they don't actually do that. In fact they are the gatekeepers of a new regime of power with its own norms and limits. Any questioning of these norms is completely prohibited. This is quite the opposite of Foucault's project, which is a critique of the 'technology of sex' as such, not just critique of muh patriarchy.

I had the opposite experience. You guys all hyped it as some groundbreaking analysis but it was mostly encyclopedic with only a few hints about the whys.

Those are like the last few dying breeds of imperialism. It's not completely gone yet, but capital's trajectory is slowly phasing out that mode of political and martial domination. Compare this to 50 years ago, where dozens of nations were at imperial war with one another at any given time and it never stopped. You're more and more gonna get things like America's activity in Afghanistan, or China in Africa, where of course one actor is dominator, but it's a two-way market exchange nonetheless that mediates and enriches the local bourgeoisie as it does the foreign.

new template

Why would that be the case? The national bourgeoisie of colonized nations doesn't benefit from imperialism at all. In fact, that was Mao's entire reason for allying with them.

I already have a few uses of this in mind.

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Wow, actually accurate cyrillic.

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Lies. No one will ever spend the money to buy this rag.

You kind of need to go into her podcast appearances to get the whys. The Dead Pundit Society and Katie Halper Show ones are the best.

Melenchon's name is spelled wrong. Also the slogan is grammatically incorrect.

Foucault's understanding of power is against tumblr and idpol.

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Spam today was cancer

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Shit that was the wrong template but whatevs

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Batshit insane trans activists are worse.

t. Terf

who cares? as a transgender person, she can personally brand a male symbol on my ass for all I care if she can manage to be a good socialist

spelling and grammar are spooks

You should have seen that coming. These bloviating French fart-huffers should be sent to Special Gulag Complex Sokal-7.

I'm still sore how someone can be so right about so many things, yet believe what the very people she knows are sociopaths said about GG.

user, I don't think this will yield many happy endings. Besides let's be honest, we can only do this to Corbyn and Melenchon because they didn't win, so we can imagine what we want.

Oh hey, I read Ballbuster? a long time ago by that guy, where he chronicles his little adventure as a petty-porky. Breddy gud.

Elaborate? iirc she just said was a big overreaction, which it was lol

Neither Hardt nor Negri is French though.

Oh fuck, I was thinking of Deleuze and Guattari.

The history of GG was completely wrong, it was pretty much a mash up of every SJW lie in the book.

To be fair, Deleuze was an influence on Negri. I think that's why you're confused.

Sure as fuck didn't see any friendship happening. At least yesterday, one of the pony threads was actually a discussion about something relevant. I forget what it was, but I do recall that it wasn't a total horseshitfire.

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Better.

is third worldism even marxism? it seems to think class conflict has been resolved in the first world.

Hey my anarchist comrade, do you have a link to this book? I want to read it but its nowhere on libgen.

It's not Marxist. It's just postcolonial theory with lots of charts and graphs about rates of exploitation.

dont have it, I had to purchase it

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Well, guess I'll have to wait.

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Verso will no doubt come out with their own edition.

Is Negri really a Bordigaist?

Walter Benjamin hurts my brain. Really fucking weird stuff.

Not surprised. The Lurianic creation myth is as insane as the Mormon creation myth.

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Judith Butthurt

Ever played Class Struggle?

Nope. Is there an online version? Back when I read it there didn't seem to be.

I read a bit of this - The concept of 'power fantasy' was invented for Unruhe. The writing is awful, was he 15 when he wrote this?

Does Kasama Project still do shit?

Who is this?

Holy fuck, this sounds fantastic.

No. He was born in 1981 I believe, so if he wrote this in 2007 he would have been 26. Granted, he admits in the book to being a high school dropout.

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muh phallus

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Why am I not suprised?

All real feminists are "TERFs". It's the only logically consistent position.

Holy shit Doug confirmed Holla Forums lurker thanks to /ourguy/ Lainon.

I thought it was pretty much well known ever since he did that interview stream with the leftypol user.

When asked to do the Q&A over here Doug apparently said he'd rather not and would prefer just getting the questions people'd want him to answer and he would then make a video for the Youtube channel. Now we know for sure that he does lurk regardless.

haha this picture is literally me when i first opened das kapital

Try not taking it so seriously maybe lol

Someone do one of his books.

Wtf! I love Foucault now?

Hey Doug if you're reading this, please do inform Nagle that Kill All Normies is brilliant except for one elementary error: she knows the socjus generation are a gaggle of lying sociopaths, yet believed every single thing they said about Gamergate. I can prove every single statement she wrote about GG wrong.

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end yourself

It was always a retarded culture war with trumped up charges of corruption. It was reactionary, but not in the modern Holla Forums sense, the sort of nominally apolitical philistine sense.

You have to go back.

>>>Holla Forums
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Ollman doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, that's why.

Looks like you're still spooked.

My main issue with the book is about how she shows 4chan as being a place for people fucked in the head. I can understand she mostly talk about the Alt-Right in her book so of course she is only writing about 4chan with the Alt-Right as theme and I'm probably biased, but fuck sake I had too many good times to see 4chan being the reactionary HQ full of socio/psychopaths…

Is she talking about marxism?

facebook.com/MaoistRebelNews/posts/1318087441653177

OH FUCK.

That too.

this is correct

Harvey is a succdem?

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Present day 4chan really is the reactionary HQ full of socio/psychopaths.
The 4chan from the past is no more, my dude…
Let it go!

Damage control.

I have been thinking lately about how much did 4chan change from when I joined around a decade ago to nowadays, and it's depressing, even early 2014 was like day and night compared to today.
The site is beyond redemption, even moot is long gone.
And the worst part is that there is no real alternative to many of the hobbyist boards.

Damn it, I just want to remove a bit of text that is in a non-rectangular area, and input new text in that same shape. Any tutorials for this?

It's impact font.

It currently is. Whether it was ironic or not +10 years ago is irrelevant, too, as irony is grounded on reality and such attitude is what brought in the retards, anyway.

Also, when did you join? Sorry if I don't seem empathetic when you say 4chan brought you many joys, but I was there for a long ass time and the site was already a shithole to me in 2012.

January, 2011.

Why the fuck is it laid out so that the halfway point is the end and you have to scroll down and then back up to read it?

accurate

This makes no sense.

this is accurate

This is also my main issue, but likely for a different reason. 4chan is not affected by what normalfags think of 4chan, neither in times of exploding vans nor today. As a channer, I'm unconcerned.
As a leftist, I'm pissed and scared shitless because she's just further enouraging the trend of the left (and "left") avoiding i) free expression, ii) free thought, iii) memetic confrontation, which gave and continue to give the most potent means for content creation, spreading and repetition (imprinting) in existence at the moment to the extreme right on a silver plate.
This is all the more important given how many things she's correct and informed about. People may listen to her.

No it's not. Wander out of Holla Forums sometimes.
Everyone hates them, too.

pls no bully

See the "marketing" written on the covers? If they were written orthogonally to the picure I could erase them, but not when they're askew lke this.

I wish there was a way to show you.

Maybe these will help:
youtube.com/watch?v=snkGHfrPGiA
youtube.com/watch?v=M1jFaMwx8U4
youtube.com/watch?v=3vvKu36Vg8A

I don't know, every time I try to go back to /a/ or Holla Forums to see if they improved I always see Holla Forumsyps baiting on the open or derailing threads.
To be fair, this is far more common on Holla Forums, and Holla Forums has been always trash.

Get a real graphics editor. Photoshop, Canvas, etc. if you've got money; Paint.net or The Gimp if you don't feel like shelling out.

Any decent package contains simple tools to transform things such as text using 4-point warp boxes.

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Like seriously what the fuck?

marx and engels are too long for the stupid residents of the internet.

This describes /r/communism to a T.

Or just pirate

There is literally nothing wrong with comrade Stalin, the other clowns in the right panel I could do without.

Couldn't even finish it.

I'll try again in a few months

Hmmmm, I really want to read this still.

It's really just a giant polemic against trade unionists, Kautsky, and Berstein.

lmao

It's not bad it just made me feel

50-page screed against other socialists with more liberal tendencies, with super specific attacks on newspapers from 10 years prior

Couldn't even tell what he believes should be done

/marx/ is not great as a theoretical resource, but an amazing place for material on the Soviet Union and Red China

Also, it's the best place to find whatever passes for ML theory these days

encyclopedia dramatica would indicate otherwise, also all those creepy pictures of hoolywood actors with kids dressed in drag kissing and shit

what do you mean

I disagree. I follow MLs on Twitter and they're actually some of the best communists I've found. They read Ilyenkov, Hegel and write theory themselves. What does one see on /marx? Frozen recommendations that hardly go beyond Lenin, Stalin, and maybe some Marx and Engels here and there.

The only thing that board is useful for is to get texts on the history of the Communist states of the last century. Even in this board I find much more insightful theory.

there are a bunch of internett drama articles about various e-celeb SJWs, a lot of them are pedophiles. Some have been convicted, others are just so goddamn creepy they are not allowed to be alone with children by their family members. Google that smorky dude, or however it is spelt.

The hoolywood thing is justa refference to the new fad of tranny kids and drag queen kids. You can google lactatia

Fake. No one has actually read either of these.

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Trotsky was a shit dialectician.

Holla Forums

You foreigners really have to explain why the fuck you like Žižek's Antigone os much. From what I've read it's clearly just a slovenian in-joke, a cheeky adaptation of Antigone by Smole (sng-mb.si/en/performances-drama/antigone/) one of the best works this country has ever produced,

Hmmmmm

That's a major problem with non-theory works. I searched up and down for a copy of Sartre's The Spectre of Stalin, and when I finally found it I couldn't make heads or tails of it because of all the people and organization he kept referring to.

I'm sorry to admit, but this was a big enough error for me that I stopped reading the book. If she's dead wrong on a subject I'm well-versed in I don't feel like I can trust anything she says on the subjects I'm not.

I think you got some of your memes mixed up there

99% of his fans don't know about the original because he's a meme

I see.

he literally blames the german communists for hitler for not allying iwth the socdems

sounds about right

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Georg Sorel is pretty much an accelerationist through violent polarization. I really don't get why fascists like him. He would have called dismissed them as class collaborators at the time of writing the book

Didn't he wrote something about the irrational essence of the masses?

Humans are pretty irrational by and large, I don't really see how recognizing that is something specifically fascist. Raising that up to some kind of virtue would be part of fascist however.

george sorel sucked off mussolini though ya dumb cunnnnnnnt capital collaborationist

I've not read this yet, which is the recommended translation, The Ego and its Own or The Unique and its Property?

Polarization was his end goal though. He didn't want to abolish class, but the bourgeoisie and the proletariat to rejuvenate through conflict.

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For printing purposes

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jacques-camatte-the-wandering-of-humanity

This is false. He wanted polarization which would lead to sharpened conflict which would lead to general strike, revolution, and the destruction of both state and capitalism. Did you even read the book?

^this user is right, Sorel was anti-statist

fuck off

Inevitable, when the only way most people here have ever engaged with trotsky is through memes.

huh

What's wrong with that?

If the communists and socdems had worked together, Hitler wouldn't have taken power and the communists could have continued to grow and organize.

Hindsight is fun. If Germany had used Approval voting Hitler wouldn't have been elected either. No need for communist and socdem collaboration in that scenario.

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I don't get what you mean.

Does anyone have a legit PDF of this book? I really, really want to know what Roo actually said.

The manifesto doesnt describe communism, its just points for a communist party to advocate for an election.

LMFAO

Paging Muke.

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He's that bad at reading?

Fuck fam, I would have saved you before some sadist tried getting you to use GIMP. Get adobe illustrator or photoshop, I use CS5 portable editions and they're tiny and I can do pretty much everything with them. Obviously pirated.
GIMP is so bad, people tell you it's free so pretty much your only option but you can steal so much superior shit that's easier to use and easy to pirate to begin with it's a ridiculous waste of time.

GIMP is perfectly fine stop being a proprietary whore.

gimp sucks dick

no u

It's fucking shit. The UI is shit, the tools are shit, it takes too long to figure out. You can steal a load of adobe stuff and once you've got the hang of one you've got the hang of everything adobe have ever made.

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youtube.com/watch?v=ppT8JK1loSg&feature=youtu.be&t=26m29s

You're welcome.

I picked up Blender pretty easy. Never heard of an NLE before but looking it up I think I have used it for images and it can be pretty useful. Not sure if I would want it on a 3D modeling software though, just save some fucking copies ya nerd.
What did you dislike about Blender? I made a little boxy man in an hour or so of fucking about.

bump because I might have time to make one or two

Someone make a folder and save all of these.

He literally praised Mussolini while in his later days.

He was a marxist syndicalist, he denouned anarchism, anarkiddy.

How am I the only one who understands Sorel is shit? I see all these "anarcho" syndicalists trying to rehabilitate and reclaim him. You dumb motherfuckers need to put Sorel down and pick up De Leon and Pannekoek

He's a hack, and a spooked one at that

they probably wouldnt have gotten along with each other.
marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1936/union.htm

pmub

Best one.

faggot sex between two gay rugmunching fagdykes

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the worst thing about Holla Forums is the shere lack of originality

Most of these downright suck. The only amusing ones are the Althusser one and the Foucault one.

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Still worth a read. But theUtopian Society is imperialist as fuck.

What the fuck are you talking about, Blender is fucking awesome.

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bump, nor raid

This. Anyone who thinks blender is crap simply sucks at using it.

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lel

You don't need the people you draw theory from to like each other.

If anything hearing disparate ideas of socialism is the best way to build a theory of your own.

washingtonpost.com/business/economy/payday-lender-western-sky-financial-to-stop-funding-loans-on-sept-3/2013/08/26/d683c298-0e7f-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html?utm_term=.55cd77d94188

In some cases the national bourgeoisie might temporarily appear to be revolutionary, but in every case they are part of Empire and need a bullet in the neck as much as anyone else.

this sounds so full of convoluted abstractions I can't even imagine

Wasn't their book revealed to be a massive fraud?

What, you mean Sokal and Bricmont attacking them? They also attacked Lacan on similar grounds (misappropriating physics and mathematics to their ends and misinterpreting them drastically). What's your point?
You're just butthurt that Anti-Oedipus blew apart Lacan on his own turf, aren't you?

I think you got "expected" and "got" the wrong way around.

that's not how philosophy works

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you just don't understand genius

Since every hegelian is convinced he is the sole living soul that understands hegel, I don't think anyone does.

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Keep making these.

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Isn't this also true for Nietzsche?

anyone have a copy?

So you got what you expected?

other way around

Without doubt Sorel supported some stupid things. It doesn't really detract from any of the arguments made in the book, though. This argument is about as valid as dismissing Conquest of Bread and Mutual Aid because Kropotkin made the mistake of supporting the Entente instead of maintaining principled internationalism. I'll just go ahead and claim death of the author.

Holy shit.

We NEED to get Batko to do a dramatic reading of this.

KEEP. MAKING. THESE.