A Question To All The Communists

Yes, that is why socialism is often refered to as workplace democracy.

Oh, please. Don't tell me you're so naive. We live in a state where a few select corporations, often less than four, can control over 90% of the media in a given country. The US is also a very good example of political tampering, as lobbying is synonymous with corporate buyouts of politicians.

How can you say we live in a free and rational democracy when the sources of information people get their viewpoints from are owned by and run for the interests of an oligarchic few, politicians meant to be 'representing' the common man are bought off or inevitably shackled to their interests by capital flight, and that these oligarchs have legislative power? Look up the TPP and TTIP. The copyright section was written by Disney's lawyers in collaboration with the other media oligarchies of the USA, and the (functional) pharmacy monopolies are responsible for the shitshow that is the laws on generic medication in there. If you're going to respond "B-BUT MUH FREE MARKET!!!", don't. Most of the products in your house are owned by the umbrella companies and subsidiaries of larger companies. Take a cleaning product in your house, for example, and try to find who owns the company behind the company. It'll most likely lead back to Coca Cola.

Christ, I'm no Chomsky Honk, but you need to read Manufacturing Consent. What we live in is far more a plutocracy.

Russia is such a flourishing democracy post communism too /s

Reddit tier argument tbh fam.

Well yeah but doesn't change the fact that that guy is right. 99% of people will never hear of those, and will forever associate communism or socialism with Stalin, Mao and maybe Che. That's a public perception problem.

in theory it should, but in a state of great economic inequality, formal democracy always manages to still reflect the wishes of the few and not the many

TFB is a liar, we've been over this.

Grover Furr uses confessions from the show trials as actual evidence that those accused were guilty. See the problem? He can't be trusted.

Calling it now before even reading the comments.

It's not a whataboutism, you're just too thick to understand it. Before communists took over, Russia was a dictatorship. Communist rule, also dictatorship, post communist rule? mostly dictatorship. Vary the economic system in the same place, get the same form of government.

Damn, you were way off-base.

we support it

you can't possibly believe that there will not arise contradictions in communism/socialism that will generate further ideological conflict and suffering

Yes.

"Workplace democracy" is one of the things that some call for, or use to explain socialist work theory.
It's not strictly accurate nor permanent, but it helps give a rough framework if you've never encountered the idea before.

Most communists believe in democracy, it's just a question of how long the interim period of getting there has to be.

Democracy is your fetish. You don't recognize that the very structure of the modern capitalist state does not allow for reform. You should just look into manufacturing consent by Chomsky. You aren't aware of how politics manifests itself. It isn't as simple as immediate want. People do not know what they want, or what is in their best interest. We can objectively say that policies enacted by the elected parliament are beneficial to capital, and hurtful to labor.

It is also impossible to bring about substantive change within liberal democracy, this is showcased by the immense difficulties that many elected socialist parties faced in their infight with the very state power which they claimed, this is why revolution is essential.

Communism isn't a moralistic outcry for the betterment of the workers' conditions, it doesn't romanticize the proletariat, communism is a solution to the contradictions of capitalism that be. Marx doesn't make a moral argument.

You should actually read Marx and Lenin, and understand the meaning of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

They will probably be much less damaging than what came before it though (as capitalism was to feudalism)

Communism is an economic system, democracy a political one.
These two have only limited influence towards each other

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