What do you think of columbus?

What do you think of columbus?

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He did nothing wrong, in the sense that you can't apply cultural standards and values of today to the 15th century.

Either people legitimately believed they were bringing civilisation, or they didn't care and just acquired land. What's important is to learn why it happened, how it happened and how it could happen again.

Who the fuck has time to care about someone that's been dead almost 600 years.

this tbh

Pretty much just a good captain no? Probably he did some not politically correct things on his travels

not going to judge him on my century's standards, but i can definitely judge him on bartolomé de las casas' standards, and by those he was still a pretty big piece of shit.
the taíno should have clubbed him in the head, maybe butterflies would cause glorious tawantinsuyu to survive

Cunt.
Vikings were the first europeans to discover america.

not surprising coming from a fucken social democrat.
probably would tell Tupac Amaru the Second to try to talk to the spaniards and hope for reforms to happen, eat a dick faggot

Dunno man lots of people

even by 15th century standards cutting the ears off of natives and keeping them as slaves was fucked up.
There were people in the clergy during Columbus' time who condemned what he was doing in the new world, saying he was from a different time period isn't an excuse.

No he was an incompetent. The only reason they gave him money was because the spanish king threw everything at the wall to see what stuck. They knew how large the earth was and that india was too far away, columbus was just retarded and bad at math.

I just don't think we should be concerned weather of not a man from the 15th Century is moral or not.

People hate on Cortès all the time, though he was considered a liberator by some natives enslaved by the Aztecs. This kind of history is hard to judge.

I agree. Of course Colombus was an asshat, but who gives a shit at this point. We got to think of now.

Slave trader, crazy, genocidial motherfucker.
America should go back to the natives. Socialism will give majority back to the natives

Still sailed one of those wooden death kites all the way across to America. So probably not entirely incompetent. But point taken

Also we have heavily biased, incomplete and rigorous document, as I've said with my example with Cortès.

You can either portray him as a gold-hungry colonist pillaging Tenochticlan and destroying Aztec Empire, or as the liberator of Tlaxcala. Both sides have sources.


He was a Spaniard who discovered a small Island in the Caribbean, you should direct your impotent anger at the Mayflower instead.

most modern politicians fuck and eat kids but everyone's worried about someone 500 years ago lmao

Stop this fucking meme, he was italian
He didn't needed to stay and sell the fucking people as slave when they pissed him off

One persons terrorists is another persons freedom fighter this is true of any figure in history with any level of military power at all. The question is always merely about which side of the violence you are on, both sides always have sources, but look at what he was doing in context of others like him and the progression of their culture through history and which sources do you believe

don't mix conquistadores, the methods of cortez and columbus were different.
columbus brutalized the taino with entirely european forces, read bartolome de las casas
everyone should read a short chronicle on the destruction of the indies

An unfortunate but necessary part of history, even Marx supported imperialist incursions into pre-capitalist countries under the impression to develop them. It is as it happened within the conditions of the time, you can find it wrong but blame the system not the man.

www-personal.umich.edu/~twod/latam-s2010/read/las_casasb2032120321-8.pdf

everyone should read this before posting about latin america, the shit that started there still resonates in the continent, the consequences are still being felt and the only way they will be removed is via Socialism.

european colonization was many things but developing the native population definitely wasn't one of it's effects.

It usually never is but for capitalism to get where it is, it happened

The Spaniards literally gave the Aztec an alphabet

you're trolling by this point, go kill some spartacists or something bruv

Pretty sure the natives that he massacred and enslaved would disagree.

All criticism of his is just moralism. Rember Morality is subjective. Also is this video made by you?


Smallpox can’t reverse it’s self.

He was an egomaniac who called himself "The Admiral of the Ocean Seas" and a piss poor mathematician who got really lucky and accidentally initiated the biggest economic windfall in human history.