Are there any femproles active on this board whom would be down to seize my means of reproduction? I'm lonely

Weed is illegal too but you idiots still smoke it.

Words cannot express how much I hate feminism now

Have faith, be patient, it will come to you. Just don't force it.

Because there's more to sex than the mechanical motions of it.

cheers

Hookers can't fix loneliness user

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Hell, if anything communism would take the only reason why women would bother with nasty people in the first place.

This isn't just about gross men, loneliness is increasing across the board among all ages, but especially the millenials. Unemployment, poverty, social isolation encouraged by capitalism have all made it harder to meet people and engage in long term relationships

Feminist autism acting like this isn't a problem isn't helpful

It's not. We should probably let capitalism run its course for another hundred years or so just to remove more undesirable men from the gene pool tbh

So because stoners are willing to risk jail time lonely men should too?

Define undesirable my fuhrer

Wew. It's been discussed here numerous times it has 40 years at the biggest stretch possible.

Get a sex change operation and I might consider it.

Yo what the fuck??

Prostitutes are not a solution tho, it's a Holla Forums tier solution and sexist

The millenial problem is closer related to Internet than capitalism. From all the crimes porkie does, isolation isn't one of them.

Yes in burgerland it's the case.
It's the most humane solution under capitalism, even amnesty international thinks so. They published a study legalizing prostitution would be safer and better for women for pretty much the same reasons legalizing weed is.
They caught hell for it from feminists because feminists are concerned with equality and solely about property rights for primarily landed women.

*because feminists aren't concerned with equality

Go sexually harass women elsewhere Holla Forums.

This is the stupidest shit I've read today. You are saying that a tech stays "neutral" in an economic system that relies heavily on it.

So where is the connection? Porkie doesn't force anyone to stay inside jerking off, discussing politics online, or jerking off while discussing politics online. At worst they create the temptation to, since it's such an easy and safe way to get pleasure. Just blaming capitalism for you wasting time online, is like blaming mcdonalds if you eat 10 burgers a day.

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Let's let capitalism continue exploiting people and destroying the planet just because of muh ebil nice guys? Feminist logic at it's finest

No one may be forced, but people only see certain choices as available to them depending on the society and their own personal situation which is both a function of their individual psychology and the social environment in which they have lived. Your suggestion is about as good as "why don't poor people choose not to be poor?"

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he doesn't know what wage labor is

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Unlike with poverty, you're pushed in tons of social situations and porkie cares about social skils and wants you to have them. That shit is essential even for crappy jobs.

You are correct in a very, very, very broad sense though that society and personal factors and so on, does push people in a certain direction. Just, it's no where near as direct nor strongly as poverty.

W-where? It seems like quite the opposite, people are encouraged to share every little thing and there is almost no movie or series that doesn't insist that friendship and teamwork are glorious. You're going to be considered weird if you don't have some social media account too. If anything there is an over saturation. Back in the day you had kids living next to you and co workers from the same job. Now you can hook up with ladyboys from Thailand while porkie is doing you in America.

It's like talking to one of the aliens from they live. TV and movies push non stop consumerism. It's alienating and or humiliating to someone that can't afford to consume said products. The TV friendships depict high class and or status people. Often dipicting lifestyles unattainable to poor men. I've never seen s sitcom where they developed affordable housing and befriended improvised abrasive people to pull them out of poverty.

Using Prostitutes is wrong. I believe this unironically. You can't guarantee that they're not being raped for a living

So having the state and criminal gangs persecute them is better.
That doesn't work, as long as there is capitalism, there will be prositutes. Any woman with a need to buy something and genitalia is a potential prostitute

All true but even in TV friendships it tends to be more about the actual actions of friendship. Consumerism and high class are just the background. Whether you joke with your friends in a high class apartment drinking Henny or in some ghetto flat with off the shelf vodka doesn't really matter.

Besides, given how proletariat are the majority, it's easier to find people with similar financial abilities. if you can't afford some shit, your prole friends can't either.

It depends on the situation, the individual, and their own personal psychological response to their societal conditioning. Capitalists may want to encourage social skills in most individuals, but ideological and material forces within capitalism such as the ideology of individuality (and, accompanying it, atomization of individuals that can result in isolation) combined with technology (which helps to further facilitate such atomization) can also push people toward asocial and anti-social behavior. Controlling the means of production doesn't imply that one controls all developments within society, even those that are not necessarily (or at least themselves) conducive to capitalism's functioning. If that were true, no opposition to capitalism would be possible.

It's a conscious rejection by women of men in their same income bracket or lower to wed a man that's of higher status to attain upward mobility. That's why I say child support and marriage laws should be abolished, it would eliminate that incentive and force both sex to court people based on character since no special property rights would be gained by marrying a higher status man or woman.
And yes marriage laws are increasingly becoming problems for women as more of them claw their way into the petite bourgeois class.

But isn't it literally always rape considering that there's no actual consent from the prostitutes side? I mean, if there was mutual consent from both parties, what's the point of the money?

You buy consent. Just like give money to a store who in turn consent to give you a Mars bar.

Man I like the occasional /r9k/ thread but this is way overboard. Give it a rest.

Social media is based around the old BBS of the early internet days, that stands for Bulletin Board System. Modern day social networks still do, for the most part, act at large elaborate bulletin boards. It is a very impersonal method of communicating and does not make it easier to build personal intimacy.

A thread died for your tiny dick

Does she have a choice though? It's not like she has chosen this "career", but instead it's probably out of necessity, i.e. in order to survive. Sure she's made the choice to accept your money, but she's obviously not in a position to deny it either.

Going by your logic, lets say you're pointing a gun to a woman's head and ask "do you want to have sex with me?", does the answer you'll most likely get count as consent?

kill yourself for equality.

Yeah, if we just ethically consume, we'll have a better capitalism for all!!

Men can and do the same, although yes, the current marriage system makes it more profitable for women.

As long there is an alternative like automatic child support from the state for single parents, sure. Though how do you propose dealing with situation where people marry, and one side decides to skip on their career to take care of kids, and then divorce? Surely, the stay-at-home parent should get something back for the lost time?

You get a stupid amount of information about a person from social media without even spending a second talking to them. It helps you to screen people way faster. For intimacy, there is private chat and meet ups.

The only tricky part is actually finding someone right with all the options. One can probably browse through more people on social media in a day, then one would've met IRL through entire life before Interwebz.

Like any other job? At least a prostitute spends way less time for more money than some cashier.

Assuming we talk about non trafficked one and the likes, the actually is. There is only so much room to be picky and depends on rest of the business but generally speaking, she can absolutely turn you down. Unlike a cashier if the boss is a shithead.

Yea sure :P

Look I used to be rabidly anti-prostitution until I realized my mental health was taking a toll because I'm someone with testosterone and a human need for intimacy sexual and non-sexual, and I've developed a lot of neuroticism and suicide attempts from like… being an island for like 13 years.

There are prostitutes that make shitloads of money, like historically, some prostitutes made so much money they were basically porkies and socialized with the aristocrats. Other prostitutes this obviously isn't the case for. There are measures one can take, like not seeing people that look young, not seeing asians, only seeing indies (non-pimped), gathering info from other johns if she seems trafficked etc…

The reason prostituion is so gross to society is that we don't like to acknowledge that sex IS a commodity EVERYWHERE. And we believe that it shouldn't be a commodity . That's where the disgust comes from.

In a perfect world, all women and all men would just have sex because it feels good and for no other reason, but that's NOT AT ALL the world we live in.

And unfortunately a lot of "leftists" include sex as commodity in their utopia, like as reward for status in a meritocratic socialism

Yeah I'm going to call bullshit on this. Name one socialist thinker that thinks that

half the people that comment on these threads. In academia, who knows, no one talks about this stuff in academia

I lurk feminist communities sometimes to learn and be open minded but most of it's shit like this- angry women making fun of autistic guys and romantic failures. They seem to have no politics beyond hating virgins who whine about sluts online, like their entire worldview is made up of defensiveness in an unending flame war.

It comes off as so disgusted and so contemptuous that it makes me feel the same way racism makes me feel.

You've obviously never had to interact with guys like that or have ever been in a relationship with them. Miso-gyny is like reactionary ideology. It is difficult to fully expunge from a person. Even leftist guys are often infected by it.

He IS one those guys

Feminism in the USA today is dragging it's heels. It's just a pony show. They don't what they are doing. At least the liberal, lean-in corporate feminists have some sort of tangible goal.

I remember when feminists were in a rage because a literal autistic person who says hi with a big stupid grin to EVERYONE boarding the bus, said it to a feminist, and she lost her shit posted it online and tried to ruin this guy. Yes, misandry is rampant in feminist communities to the same extent mysoginy is in the manosphere, except the feminists have it out for the poorest and most disabled men. I've started purging feminists from leftist groups I have online. The Trump presidency, as horrible as it may be, makes it easier to do that.

How many guys do you run into with cases of hatred of women? How does it manifest?

And to be fair if you're forming relationships with guys they probably aren't the nazi virgins you despise.

Yea, leftist guys are infected by malehood, not mysoginy. And when you see a bunch of lonely men or lonely women, in the manosphere or the feministophere they are hating the opposite gender quite frequently because they haven't socialized enough outside their small social bubble IRL to be able to sympathize with real people and tell to be able to base theory a bit more on what is going on outside.

I think it's justifiable they'd feel that way in the sense of emotional causation, but it isn't justifiable from the perspective of left-wing politics. Cloaking emotional reaction to individuals (who are regarded as embodying ascriptive identities) behind the labels "left-wing" and "feminist" turns politics into a fight not between different positions but between irreconcilable identities - which is exactly what the right wants it to be.

Yea I find it hilarious when feminists make this big shit online about city street harassment to white affluent audiences, when the guys that do that are "mysoginist" "losers" (in their mind) aka homeless people

feminists think they love homeless men, but they hate them, they hate them with a passion.

They are class enemies, they deserve no space in leftist communities.

I definitely used to be, I was very shy and I was bullied by girls when I was younger, but later positive experiences with women helped me through that.

I still relate to people who feel doomed to loneliness. When people hate outcasts and justify it through politics it upsets me.

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assuming modern day feminism is political instead of just trolling

It's almost as if feminists are on a quest to make female sexuality as social darwinian as possible. Take the worst parts of female gender roles and just amplify the hell out of them.

Get out of spaces with feminists and find some non-feminist women (NOT anti-feminist or Red Pill women) and you'll be amazed at how much less darwinian their sexuality is.

Shit dude, same here. I have a long term gf now but whenever I think about the years I spent in loneliness and self loathing (all of high school and almost six years of neetdom) I don't feel good when these people are bullied.

If I wasn't forced to get a job and lucky enough to be around genuinely nice coworkers that helped me so much, there was a single mother Mexican lady I really befriended and when I told her about how lonely i was she set me up with the girl who is now my gf

I mean if I wasn't so lucky I'd still be festering in my own shit and cheeto dust playing Vidya the entire day.

I was helped, and I think that even the most off the deep end incel can be helped

When I say to people on the left that people could do more of this

I immediately here about how a hypothetical incel wouldn't deserve it because he's lonely as a result of hatred of women or "being right wing" or something. It's all fucked up. So many people are fucked up.

I was actually a classic incel type right winger during that time though insofar as a shut in can express that. If I was still like that I'd undoubtedly be a kekistani Holla Forums retard

One of my best friends is incel. He's severely schizophrenic and that keeps him from making much money, and those two things, mostly the former keep him from finding anyone.

He doesn't have a mygonistic or right wing bone in his body. He's a christian socialist.
Yet I know dozens of mygonist and right wing men with girlfriends.

I used to spend a lot of time on wichan, back before /v9k/ was removed. It was awful. I can tear up thinking of all the stories I read there and all the guys who probably died like that.

Nobody deserves to be completely alone. Romantic isolation is one thing but years without friends screws with your head.

This is one of the million reasons why I tell Holla Forums to stay the fuck away from """lefty""" Twitter, especially Weird Twitter. They are front and center among the people who turned feminism into this porky ingroup shitshow. They're not interested in improving humans relations any more than neo-Nazis are interested in "respecting every's races individualities and strengths".

slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/

My verbal Autism Level is higher than average, I stay out of fights and have no criminal history. Not even a parking ticket.

Although the criminal history might change as I get involved in anarchist and socialist demonstrations and engage in acts of civil disobedience.

Also, I'm a borderine alcoholic because I'm miserable and the loneliness is crippling. Also, I have a stern look and my neutral face looks angry.

You're my comrade in every respect then.