So I'm about to attend a major anti-racism protest in the next few days and have no idea how to prepare myself. It's going to be a huge event and we are going to be countering fascists and other racist scum. I've never been to a protest this intense before, and given everything that happened in C-ville I'm terrified the Right and/or the pigs are going to start using violence against us.
What should I do? I'm definitely bringing goggles and a vinegar-soaked bandana to neutralize any tear gas. I'm also thinking about wearing a helmet in case shit gets real. Anything else I should do?
bring some actual leftist literature to hand out while you're there. ideally hook up with some party or org (IWW maybe?) to help out with whatever efforts they are making in that direction. Maybe you might make a few libs curious enough to take a look.
if you're just going there to scrap, then bring some bandages and disinfectant, plenty of water and some cash that you can hide on your person somewhere so you can deal with emergencies like your phone being stolen/destroyed, being stuck there or getting arrested or whatever.
Hunter Bell
I don't want to name the city, but it's in Canada (I'm Canadian, obviously). For the record, Canadian cops aren't much better than Amerikan cops.
I always bring my camera with me but I'm super cautious about getting comrades' faces in the photos, since pigs monitor all of our shit on FB.
Nathan Jackson
bring bandages, something to clean wounds.
Ian Gutierrez
Good advice. Thanks.
Xavier Thomas
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Thomas Phillips
oh and if you're bringing a helmet/goggles/any other gear that makes it look like you're spoiling for a fight then keep it fucking hidden unless and until you actually need it or you're just making yourself an attractive target for the pigs for no reason
Jordan Cox
Disinfectant wipes?
Wyatt Peterson
Good to know. I plan on bringing a backpack.
Hunter Adams
Bring a gun dude, assuming you're in America. You don't wanna actually use it but we need to show force. If you do this you'll need at least 1-2 buddies with you though who can look out for you since you can't really get into arguments yourself with a gun.
Cooper Fisher
Really fucking bad advice there.
Jace Robinson
I'm in Canada actually.
There are a ton of fascists here. My province is going through it's own refugee crisis right now and the demo is specifically countering racist shits who want to shut down the border.
Lincoln Reed
You guys should stop with this shit. You treat racism like it's some disease at birth, like some people are born with it. I'm sorry but it's non that simple. There are material conditions behind the problem that are completly ignored, in favor of naive liberalism. You should go there and educate the people. Try to convice them to protest the real causes behind racism.
Lucas Hernandez
If you're planning on doing any black bloc shit then try to keep your regular outfit something that's easy to slip the hoodie/jeans etc. over top of. You'll want to change while in the crowd and after performing illegal shit drop into a secluded area to change out. Don't wear that black get-up around too much, it's sketchy as fuck and you'll attract attention.
I would pick a fairly light and easy to conceal bag. A gym bag or something similar is ideal and to keep your essentials (goggles if you're bringing them, vinegar soaked rag, etc) in the front pocket, somewhere really easy to access.
When I want to the Charlottesville rally I kept my ID and phone in the car. Probably more than necessary but it can't hurt.
Camden Martinez
Just be civil and dont be overly rude to the fascists.
I think the worst the fascists will do is just shout a few cusswords or shout their views at your face.
Sebastian Sanders
Yes, I plan on keeping my hoodie in my backpack. I will be wearing red until shit goes down.
Nathaniel Morgan
Bring a gun, and make sure you have a permit for it. Fascists have already shown they're willing to utilise brutal force against their opponents. Also make sure to film this shit. Could make for some more quality Holla Forums cringe.
Henry Gray
I'll film it. I'm actually terrified of guns. If I could afford it I'd get body armor.
Liam Butler
Anti-racist protests generally go well. Don't be too worried by what happened. It is generally only dangerous when racists and anti-racists begin to clash.
Christopher Harris
Smashies in this thread are a shame. this is the only good post.
Matthew Robinson
I don't see any smashies here.
Jacob Hernandez
Sounds like smashies idiocy to me. like a said here, use this a rectuitment tool for something more serious
Charles Diaz
Goggles to protect from mace.water balloons filled with paint are effective against police riot shields.
Nathan Bailey
Good to know.
Jose Rivera
Should I bring milk?
Nathaniel Taylor
Or gloves?
Jaxson Long
Foaming long-range wasp spray for the Neo Not-See's.
Austin Adams
Yes, you should get a local lawyer on retainer.
Colton Evans
Bring flyers about how the rich have used the white race for profit and now they're abandoning them now that they're being saddled with blame.
Joshua Rodriguez
Find some catchy anti-Nazi and anti-fascist songs and sing with the spirits of those that died fighting fascists throughout the ages. Steel yourself with the resolve of the worker's will! And if you fight them, strike with vengeance of the comrades that died at Stalingrad, at Jarama, and all the ones that died in the camps. Be our fury, comrade.
Blake Turner
What I've seen of Candian cops suggests they're even worse than most American cops. Dunno why you're gonna run black bloc its easier to toss a plastic bottle at them and they'll start the riot for you.
Evan Young
Start by fucking off to reddit.
Hunter Adams
I'd say don't bring a phone your phone records can prove you were there, also if you really plan on getting stuck in encrypt your phone and your laptop
Brayden Gonzalez
This is the wrong place to ask, I doubt anyone here ever attended a protest.
Owen Ward
No.
Isaiah Flores
Good to know.
Andrew Sanchez
That's not how tear gas works. Get an actual promask, faggot.
If you plan on blackblocking you can bring another set of clothes, tape over logos on shoes/clothes, etc. Don't go there alone, bring a couple of friends, decide on a place to meet after the demo. See if there is some kind solidarity group/legal team, get there contact details on hand in case someone disappears/get arrested
Bring water and something to eat(bananas are v good). Don't do anything stupid & don't talk to the cops.
Good luck
Luis Carter
Kill yourself rabid liberal. The cops are on your side. Fucking tool. That's why no one take us seriously. Instead of beating LARPing thugs that you call fascists why don't we do OWS 2: No liberal fuckheads edition?
Cameron Adams
I'm going with a group. I don't plan on doing anything illegal but thanks for the advice anyway.
Luke Gray
their*
tbh i think it's more important to be able to keep contact with friends than being safe from prosecution on the off chance the cops will try to nail you with phone records.Encrypting your phone is easy and good though
Logan Bennett
Holla Forums…
Easton Anderson
Riot shield Riot armor Gas mask Metal armor if possible Kevlar armor too Full hazmat suit because you never know
Aiden Morales
Fuck no I already posted in this thread
If you want report me in the mods moderation thread they will check my posts
Jordan Harris
If I could afford it, I'd buy body armor and wear it underneath my hoodie.
Henry Rivera
D-dont f-forget your disinfectant wipes
Jaxon Bell
So vinegar-soaked shit doesn't work?
Benjamin Harris
Go as a big metal guy.
James Rivera
Full HazMat suit? You cucks are delusional. Wearing all that shit and a full Level A HazMat suit which contains SCBA is the dumbest shit I ever heard. Yoi would burn up even in a Level B HazMat. You lefties should just stay home if you dont want to be embarrased. Leave fighting to the real men. W-watch out n-nazi scum!!
Nathaniel Wood
Are you being ironic? Because the afroplasm fag was obviously shitposting
Jordan Stewart
Rate my peaceful assembly gear, leftypol.
Isaac Bennett
american protesters look like cosplayers, try to get dressed like parisienne black block or german jugendwiderstand
Colton James
it will definitively not neutralize teargas, a wet rag will be better than nothing, and maybe the vinegar does something, but definitely don't stand around in the gas with nothing but a wet bandana for protection. I heard something about using baking soda, but have not tried it myself, and the only results I found when searching for it where pretty sketchy. this old news article mentions it nytimes.com/learning/general /onthisday/big/0307.html >Negroes lay on the floors and chairs, many weeping and moaning. A girl in red slacks was carried from the house screaming. Mrs. Boynton lay semiconscious on a table. Doctors and nurses threaded feverishly through the crowd administering first aid and daubing a solution of water and baking soda on the eyes of those who had been in the worst of the gas.
Wyatt Williams
Just wear a cheap gas mask from the military surplus store and make sure it has some fresh NBC filters attached. They look pretty cool anyway so I don't see why you'd avoid spending a bit on them. AFAIK they're generally cheap as fuck.
Levi Anderson
No, that doesn't work. Gas masks are not expensive. Get one, learn how to use it, and learn to put it on in less than 9 seconds. This isn't rocket science, and you'll at least not smell like disgusting vinegar while also having painful eyes, mouth, and nose.
Jace Hill
Some cheap gas masks are deadlined. If you don't know how to inspect, don't buy. Plenty of civilian shit provides more than ample protection.
Leo Morris
Just use violence yourself, kill the Nazis if you have to
Jordan Barnes
What's deadlined? Past their use by date?
Jace Walker
The seals may be rotten, or some other shit is wrong with them. Honestly, you can find even military shit in very good condition for less than $100, but you can buy new for that much if you just go with a current production 3M brand mask. Just make sure you get a mask, and not just a particulate respirator.
Leo Lewis
Leave your phone at home.
Adam Nguyen
Could you use a glue gun on the seals if you're broke? Save some cash and get a glue gun out of it.
Jason Brooks
Okay. There's an army surplus store downtown.
I'm also going to get baking soda and use that.
Dylan Lopez
Essential items:
1. Wear something semi-smart, this will let the cops know you aren't a looter or a trouble maker. 2. Write a note about your intentions and keep it on your person, preferably in an interior pocket. 3. Comb your hair, for the same reason as number 1. 4. Stay near trees or lampposts - this will become evident in the next number. 5. Take a stout rope, rope can be handy in all kinds of situations. 6. Hang yourself from the nearest tree or low lamppost.
Good luck : )
Mason Smith
Bring a gun. This isn't about public image anymore, the first one you see, begin.
Colton Cook
No, the rubber stretches and contracts as you breathe. Glue won't hold. You'd need to make a patch from some kind of inner tube. It's much more work than it's worth.
Juan Hughes
Stay in eyesight of at least one other person you know at all times, buddy up if need be if there is a lot of you, if you are part of an organisation have one or two people who will not participate in any actual activity but will have phones and communicate, these people can also often be spotters if you need to find the fash to bash them and the police aren't letting masked protestors through etc . I you are going alone then you have nobody to contact anyway, so just keep stuck with a group. Really in 2011 in London they fucked so many people of phones gps records, I have personally been arrested based off of them. Keep your phone at home and keep your internet search history and phone records as protected as you can. Try not to arrange going to the protest by phone if at all possible
Jonathan Sullivan
also if two of you arrange to go to the protest together and then do damage then can throw conspiracy charges at you which often make sentences much harsher etc
Gavin Adams
also if you want a weapon just get a flag with a chunky stick.
Jack Brown
What is the point of an anti-racism protest?
I can't think of something more banal and pointless.
Jace Ward
Black people seem to think otherwise.
Thomas Phillips
go in blackface
Justin Watson
go with other people you trust make a plan before decide what you want and what you can achieve (if you should clash etc)
Evan Lewis
We are going to be a very large group, and yes the organizers are telling us to do exactly this.
Bentley Long
stay out of the road
Cameron Harris
lel there aren't black people in candada
Ayden Wilson
this is a meme. people get swooped up based on their associations and their face. bring your phone and record everything. you might save someone's life.
Lincoln Morales
Yes.
Jaxon Lopez
This, come in a hazmat suit and don't forget your bike helmet
Jacob Martinez
this is literally one of the worst memes my fellow comrades push. dressing like a communist/anarchist is a trap. look normal so it's easier to blend in.
Oliver Hall
user, are you going to the counter protest in Vancouver on Tuesday?
It's Vancouver. It's the only Canadian city with a racist rally planned for next week. We're not stupid, you can say it. V A N C O U V E R. those who need to be anonymous will wear masks. take as many photos as you can, you'll exponentially increase the amount of aut-right/nazi crimes caught on camera (hopefully with faces)
Nathaniel Long
Not Vancouver. Try again.
Tyler Diaz
this isn't a meme. I have been arrested based on phone GPS records. During the 2011 riots in London people were arrested based on these also. Nice try FBI
David Powell
It's obvious you're the new one.
Jose Phillips
Let me guess. You did something illegal and got caught on camera. You denied you did it and they proved you were there via your cell phone. That's not them scraping your phone and arresting you for being there, thats you having bad opsec while commiting crimes.
Parker Ross
Okay, I'll say it: I'm going to the event in Ville de Québec on Sunday.
Nathan Baker
You should go to Vancouver on Tuesday, that's going to be the big one.
Nathaniel Lewis
Can't. I live in the east.
Asher Peterson
What's going down in Québec? I don't see anything about aut-right nazis protesting anywhere.
Ryder Edwards
They also utilize cell site simulators to collect phone data. You can go without a phone for a few hours.
Nathan Watson
are there going to be any racists there or are you just going to beat people that look like racists?
Jason Gray
It's a good camera that has internet connection and a means of communicating with people if you get separated. it's only a nuisance if you're breaking the law with your face exposed.
im not gonna say what I did, the fact is, the phone records were presented alongside other evidence, it was presented as evidence that I was I a certain place at a certain time. That is often considered damning evidence in combination with the right other evidence. Please don't lecture me about "bad opsec" and then advocate carrying around what is essentially a live stream of your life for a great many people when you intend to break the law. If you want to film, don't break the law. Both are valuable, pick which one you do
Cooper Perry
Best post ITT
Parker Watson
Relax OP, what's going to happen? At worst, you pick a fight you can't win and get beaten up. You're not going to get rocked by a car like that one girl, and people who got caught after protests (afaik) were super obvious memesters. (And also liberals). People will probably be wearing clothes they don't have at home, or glasses they don't usually wear, they will probably be looking to start trouble. They don't wear their normal glasses, they might shave and definitely cover tattoos. Just stuff to look out for whether or not you do anything illegal. I don't see anything happening though, also you'll want to walk unless you want your car to possibly get fucked (maybe just autistic worrying but it came into my head regardless).
Jeremiah Lewis
La Meute, quel groupe de merde
Ryan Moore
Not-OP Leaf here, can confirm. Canuckistan is teeming with racist assholes. In my own family there's a Tea Partier, an evangelical conservative, and an Aut Rightist, as well as an aunt who is convinced that the Soldiers of Odin are good boys who are not racist at all ever.
Nolan Green
nigga preeze not everybody's a Leftcom.
John Brooks
Agreed. I hate Islam but I hate racial profiling and attacks on migrants even more.
Klanada has always been a racist country, just like the United Snakes. The KKK used to be huge in the prairie provinces.
Kayden Phillips
Apparently the Klan was active in the Minden area as during the 80's. Probably still is.
Brayden Green
Might as well post here. There is a BLM protest tomorrow that wants to take down a statue. that I think I'll attend. My main problem is that I really don't agree with taking down the statue It's not even a Confederate statue but I do want to show solidarity against the fucked up criminal justice system. Thing is that I was involved with the alt-right circle and went to a protest with them so I'll probably go and cover up my face for protection. call me a faggot or whatever but I feel pretty torn, I'm just going to observe cause I got shit else to do tomorrow morning
Caleb Watson
What I'm bringing so far:
Anything else?
Robert Morris
For the record, I'm thinking about dumping the vinegar and just going with the milk and baking soda mix.
Gabriel Gutierrez
Another good ol' fashion radlib idpoler assembly thread. Board quality has been great lately.
Owen Butler
Bring a club, an AR-15, a megaphone, a switchblade, a steadicam with three cellphones attached, and five smokebombs. When in the middle of a crowd let one of the smokebombs off and shank the person nearest you to start a riot. As the riot's happening shoot your AR-15 into the air causing mass panic. Then scream in the direction of the police to direct the mob towards them while filming them beating protestors to show the court in the next few weeks. As the stores are being looted by the mob find whichever electronic device looks the most valuable and steal it. Place the valuable device into the police car if it's abandoned and film this as well for the court. Finally as the chaos comes to a halt, plant the gun and knife on the closest body, either shooting yourself or slicing your forearm. Lay on the ground and wait for the national guard to help you. File a lawsuit against the city and on behalf of the dead.
You have now reached peak accelerationism.
John Murphy
Oh no, such racism
Adrian Davis
You left out "normie"
Noah Jenkins
Wear a suicide vest under your clothes for if the fucking pigs get you,
Lucas Ward
How did that happen, man?
Chase Ward
My wife started dating a black guy and he told me all about how oppressed black people are. Really blue pilled the shit out of me with his BBC
Brody Hernandez
I read into Marx and Marxism. Most people in alt-right circles are borderline retarded and they had no idea of the basic concept of Socialism/Communism. Basically, classcucks
Lmao nice joke Holla Forums
Samuel Gray
really makes you think
Gabriel Lee
Why?
Tyler Perez
Cuck
Lucas Lopez
Everyone is telling me it doesn't do shit.
Noah Nguyen
Stop this DIY anti-teargas nonsense you roleplaying cowboy. Get a cheap respirator and some goggles if a standard gas mask is too much.
Jose Edwards
No.
Joseph Barnes
Dude that's really radical. The government of Canada, all Corporate entities, and the overwhelming majority of the Canadian populace are all super Pro-Racism.
Protesting against racism, that's really gonna give it to them. Speaking truth to power right there.
James Scott
I see….
Cooper Mitchell
We are literally countering a group of neonazis.
Isaac Gonzalez
French Canadian Neo-Nazis? Très intéressant
Isaiah Turner
There is a shitload of racism in this province, although the prairie provinces like Alberta are far, far worse.
Josiah Brown
Have you considered buying a "Hillary should have won" T-Shirt?
Jose James
Oh, I didn't realize, my sincerest apologies. If a bunch of neo-nazis are doing something then it is absolutely essential for the left to do it too. For every #RacismIsGood tweet, we must be there to respond with #RacismIsBad tweets. Revolution soon, my comrades.
Ryder Jackson
>>>Holla Forums
Gavin Reed
I'm Canadian…
Leo Ramirez
Really needs a name change otherwise we'll all fall into LARPerville.
That's my small gripe.
Oliver Edwards
Why?
Eli Torres
Pointless gestures of conspicuous liberalism don't need to be confined to any one country. Just say you're doing it in solidarity with your American friends.
Liam Baker
Start by not trying to murder the police and then whining about it on twitter
Jayden Fisher
We are countering Nazis.
To protect my hands in case some dick tries to hit me with a metal pole.
Kayden Flores
Give'm hell man. It's been a real bummer leaning that there are still some serious skinheads in Montreal; I really wanted to live there for awhile.
Brandon Thomas
No you aren't.
Yet somehow the 30+% of the population that is non-white manages to not get lynched by them on a daily basis.
What reality do you live in?
Luke Green
We're protesting in Ville de Québec.
Christopher Ortiz
One where I can get harassed on the street just for being brown.
Ryder Myers
Good luck OP.
Christopher Lewis
I feel sorry for countries that don't have football as their major sport. They just can't into proper smashie culture.
Lucas Miller
Bring an SKS my maple nigger friend, if you really get freaked out by guns don't bother going to the scrappy parts. The fascists will definitely be armed.