Doxxing White Supremacists Is Making Them Terrified

I don't know why i can't make an archive, but here is the article for thses who don't want to give click s to it:

“It’s hard to get a job, hard to make a living, hard to have a normal social life when all your friends and family know you believe in ethnic cleansing.”

When one of the polo-clad, tiki-torch wielding white supremacists at Charlottesville lost his job at a hot dog restaurant two nights ago, you could almost hear left wing Twitter breathe a sigh of relief. Perhaps the social fabric of our country hadn't completely dissolved and there were still ramifications for appearing at a Neo-Nazi rally, even if the president was blaming "many sides" for the violence at Charlottesville.

Of course, social media mobs have a spotty record when it comes to identifying assailants, and the Charlottesville rally was no exception. Kyle Quinn, an engineer at the University of Arkansas, woke up to thousands of expletive-filled messages from strangers after he'd been misidentified as one of the Charlottesville marchers on Twitter.

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But there wasn't much sympathy for those who'd been correctly identified as part of the racist horde. Some of those identified, like Peter Tefte, were publicly disowned by friends and family. Even Jon Ronson, author of a sympathetic book about those who'd been on the receiving end of public shaming, weighed in to say the shaming of white supremacists was justified. "[The Charlottesville white supremacists] were undisguised in a massively contentious rally surrounded by the media," Ronson wrote on Twitter in the midst of mob calls for justice. "There's a big difference between being a white power activist [or] white supremacist and being, say, Justine Sacco," he wrote, referring to the PR executive who was fired from her job after joking on Twitter about how white people can't get AIDS.

Online, white nationalists may use pseudonyms, VPNs, and other techniques to try to mask their identity out of fear of doxxing, or having their personal, sensitive information leaked online. But at Charlottesville, those who attended had no reasonable expectation of privacy, according to the organizers themselves.

"The difference between Charlottesville and other public events is that the organizers were saying 'Do not come to this event without the expectation of being doxxed,'" says Keegan Hankes, an analyst at Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. "They had some inkling [that they could be outed] given the furor in the weeks leading up to the event, where you saw things ramp up between some of the anti-fascist groups and some of the alt-righters online."

Groups like the League of the South urged members to prepare for violent confrontations with anti-fascists and protestors from Black Lives Matter. In a Facebook post which has since been deleted, the pro-Confederate organization also said the rally would "affirm the right of southerners and white people to organize for their own interests just like any other group is able to do, free of persecution".
Typically, Hankes says, white nationalists tend to be "incredibly conscientious" about concealing their identities. "They scrub images of any identifying details before they post them, they try not to post any personal information," he says. And for good reason. "There's a huge cost to being identified as a member of one of these groups because it makes you, in effect, unemployable by a lot of people."

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In the days since the Charlottesville rally and as white nationalists have been identified in photos on social media, white supremacists have fretted —often self-pityingly—about the risks posed by social media mobs bent on exposing their identities. In one forum thread on the Daily Stormer, which recently went dark after being cut off by both Google and GoDaddy, a user lamented that the peril of doxxing made attending a rally too scary for him. "The thought of getting outed as 'white supremacists' to our employers and possibly losing our jobs is a horrifying prospect," the user Ignatz wrote. If forced to choose between a rally, which could bring him unwanted exposure, or supporting his white family, he says he would choose the latter.

It isn't any safer for those doing the doxxing or identifying. Logan Smith, the Twitter user behind Yes You're Racist, had been helping reveal the identities of white supremacists at the Charlottesville Rally. Smith told the News and Observer that his reporting had led to death threats. "They have been threatening my family, too. The overall response of course has been 99 percent positive, but there's always that extremely small but extremely loud and extremely angry minority that bites back." Logan's account also tweeted photos that were misidentified.

Sometimes alt-righters doxx each other, which isn't a surprise to Hankes. "The alt right is a group of malignant contrarians so they're constantly bickering with each other," says Hankes. "Charlottesville was an outlier in many respects because of how coordinated they were, and how they kept infighting to a minimum."

When high-profile neo-Nazis are doxxed, it can have ramifications for the entire movement, especially if the information that's revealed about a member proves to be inconsistent with their publicly professed ideology. Mike Pienovich, the leader of the alt-right website "The Right Stuff" and the propagator of a podcast called "The Daily Shoah," was doxxed in an anonymous Medium post which also revealed that the virulent anti-semite had a Jewish wife. (The two have since separated.) He later urged his thousands of listeners to bring weapons to the Charlottesville rally.

"When you see those articles that say, 'We can come out of the shadows now and we don't have to hide our identities,' that's pure bluster."

Those in the movement who would dare to self-doxx are in the minority, though they exist. "Of course you're going to have some of those guys who are out there publishing under their own names like Richard Spencer, and there's constant arguments among the right wingers about whether everyone should [go public]," says Hankes. In the forums, one user struck a defiant tone after being doxxed, vowing "never to cuck out" despite public threats against them. "But, by and large, people are scared because of the exact same reasons you'd expect," says Hankes. "It's hard to get a job, hard to make a living, hard to have a normal social life when all your friends and family know you believe in ethnic cleansing."

He thinks that the articles about the rise of the alt-right obscures the fact that few would actually wish to be identified with the movement. "When you see those articles that say, 'We can come out of the shadows now and we don't have to hide our identities,' that's pure bluster. That's them trying to embolden their supporters or bring more people into the fold who would otherwise be casual observers or just stay away, because they're afraid of the consequences of being involved," he says.

"The truth is, they're terrified."

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Hmmm, for some reason I really doubt that.

only because they're too young and stupid to cover their faces, they're only now just realizing how absolutely fucked their future job prospects are. What company is going to hire a nazi sympathizer? I almost feel sorry for these kids they're really young 18-21, and they have basically fucked their future.

Well it's entirely possible that they thought White supremacy become socially acceptable after spending too much time into their echochambers.
Technological bubbles can really skew your worldview.
It's a trap we should be wary about

I wonder what it's called.

Don't Tread on Meat?
Ludwig von Greases?
The Pro-Concession Principle?

KILL ALL NAZI NERDS

Radicalization is a group effort

Why kill them when we can put them in labour camps

What labour can a bunch of autistic suburban trust fund babies do?

You need to go to a gulag. :^)

Sorting out trash?

I'm sure we could could find millennial work for them to do. Just because a person is an autist doesn't mean they can't work.

youtube.com/watch?v=CSiz6kbIZkw

You're right, I was too harsh. There's a place for everyone.

They could be janitors. Most janitors are autistic already.

I might be an assburger but I'm not suburban and I actually have to work for a living :^)

Yeah 'leftists' were totally thinking "Oh good" not "Porky is gonna do the same thing to me".

Not that I give a fuck about the fashies but everything being done to them is just honing the tools that Porky is going to use to take us down if we ever get an actual chance to be a threat.

That's alrady the case and it has been for a long time.

Used to, not so much lately (unless you try to form a union at least). But that's cause of divisive idpol shit that suits Porky's purpose.

You do realize that cities have higher unemployment rates than suburbs? Most of the actual working class lives in suburban areas, not cities. Cities mostly have lumpens, young professionals, and porky.

Honestly, the whole 'suburbs = rich' concept is ridiculous. If most suburbanites are rich, then the slight majority of Americans who live in suburban areas must be rich. (Which would contradict every other statistic.) The truth is that there are poor and rich suburban areas as well as poor and rich urban areas. Taking my local metro-area as an example, downtown Detroit and the midtown area is pretty wealthy, with lots of high-rent apartments for college students and yuppies. Some porkies also live in those high-rent apartments/condos. Meanwhile, the rest of the city is downright lumpen, with most of the population unemployed. Out in the suburbs, you have porky and white collar areas in Oakland County (which oddly are the most diverse racially) as well as hardline working-class areas. Macomb County suburbs are almost universally working-class.

Basically, the extremely poor ghetto lumpens and wealthy yuppies live in the city while the working class and older professionals live in the suburbs. Porky lives with both older professionals and yuppies depending on what business they own.

Also, NEETs =/= trust fund kiddies. You wouldn't be living in your mom's basement if you (or your family) had the money to move out.

SJWs tend to be trust fund kiddie college students, while alt-righters tend to be full-on NEETs who live in their usually working-class parents' basement. Leftypollacks often belong to the latter group too.

We've gotta throw these writers in the gulags with the fascists they so despise.

None of it is even remotely bad.

I don't think forcing working class young men who are already extremists into unemployment and poverty is the answer to decreasing right wing extremism, but hey I'm just some super intelligent guy on the internet 8^)

The education system failed them already and there are no re-education camps yet to give it another go. Isolating cancer from society is the best option from the ones available.

The free market at work.

since there aren't enough jobs for everyone, I think it's better for non nazis to be employed than nazis.

it is. These are lost cases, little can be done for them under current circumstances. containment is the best option.

you want to give them prizes?

lolcows

yeah just don't be an idiot and they won't find you

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Vice has gone too far this time

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HOL UP
how fucked are labor regulations in the US if your employer can fire you for having a certain political affiliation? Should we celebrate this? Isn't this used to police the workers?

hopefully they starve and die off so we dont have to deal with this bullshit. we should treat them as Stalin did to the kulaks.

Sorry but the only good fash is a dead fash. I dont give a fuck if they're working class or young, fash are nothing but useful idiots for the bourgeoisie who have stated that they want to defend capitalism by throwing leftists off helicopters. If I ever become president we will nationalize 4chan, drag every Holla Forumsack out of his basement and sentence him to a Guantanamo style prison and/or lifetime of hard labor to build public works and such. Fash are nothing but class traitors who want to ally against the working class, fascism is nothing but capitalism/sucdem with authoritarian and racialist characteristics.

all you dumbasses saying, oh, wont porky use this to fire us as commies? THIS IS ALREADY THE CASE, which is why we are all user here already. Did you hear of mccarthyism? the smith act? blacklists? being a commie publicly was like this and way way worse in the 20th century for Americans so Holla Forums can fuck off with their whining. The only reason its not as emphasized now is because communism is considered dead and irrelevant and not in the news as much as alt right.

Why shouldn't your employer be able to fire you if your ideology consists of murdering them and their friends?

All the anti communist laws were passed during the cold war.
I doubt you can be openly communist in most jobs that arent limp wristed ivy league philosophy professor.

Another thing is that antifa wear masks to protect themselves from being doxxed.

wew

mfw I slowly radicalize all my normie friends

looks like stirners had a few too many NAP hotdgs

you're making them gayer?

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Austrians and Frankfurters

This is the world Gamergate has created. The fucker who rammed all of those people with a car was only 20 years old.

Speaking of Gamergate…
I don't know if i should laugh at him or feel bad for him.

TFW you realize the moral conservative panicers of the 90s were right, video games actually did ruin america

I is retard

Gamergate is a consequence of them being retarded as is the rest. Though I guess capitalism plays a role too. If you create a dog eats dog society, it's given that some of the losers will find people to blame for their failures instead of the system.

He chose to openly show his hatred and disdain for people. Laughter seems appropriate.

You mix up the order. It's like drugs. Not drugs are at fault but the causes that make people do drugs.

Hedonism.

That's the light stuff usually. And coke.

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Why are you so damn picky? Where do you get your news from? WSWS? Because you're missing out on a lot of news if you don't trust liberal sources.

Seriously? Because people need to eat and having a job is necessary to survive.

Who needs news?
A good 80 to 90% of news is just glorified trivia.

Oh look, Trinidad and Tobago are going to the polls…

fake + gay + old

Yes I am boxxing these products for porky, this a correct sentence.

WEW LAD!

Probably, but you still can't use archive.is on Vice.

the tree of capitalism gotta be watered with the blood of 5% unemployment

Didn't know where else to throw these, or if they even really matter. But I have some doxx for Natt Danelaw and Zeiger who are writers and podcasters from the Dailystormer and Ironmarch. They've got a shit ton of podcasts on the DS and Soundcloud, so here they are if interested.

Natt = Mikkel Hangaard

His podcast page.
soundcloud.com/user-636570724

IM profile.
ironmarch.org/index.php?/profile/958-natt-danelaw/

Doxx (already done by some Danish fellas).

redox.dk/nyheder/danskernes-parti-medlemmer-bag-nazistisk-musikudgivelse

redox.dk/nyheder/ny-rapport-kulegraver-danskernes-parti

Notice his band name is NATTeulven, Seemed to have used that name a lot before just changing it to Natt and then Natt Danelaw.

Zeiger.

IM profile.
ironmarch.org/index.php?/profile/2170-zeiger/

Soundcloud. (seems to have deleted a lot of stuff here).
soundcloud.com/noose_zeiger

No real doxx for him, but was able to put a face to the online profile. He's French Canadian and has a very distinctive voice.

At 0:01 he's the guy in a black henley with grey jeans and black boots and glasses. You can hear him speaking at 0:05, just listen to one of his hammercasts on soundcloud and you can easily identify it's him.
youtube.com/watch?v=8Vy7BiJPLfs