What the fuck ?

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what the fuck ?

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We are the spectre lads.

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If I'm ever in South Florida I'm gonna make it a point to tell every exiled Cuban I see that kulaks deserved it.

Communists spent all their time making people work at the tank farm, when they should have been at the FOOD FARM!

BASED COMRADE

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Fuck this video, but Stalin did a lot of stuff wrong and that should not be forgotten

Stalin's biggest mistake is he didn't kill enough porky's and put too much faith into the allied powers during WWII and after the war. Mao had the balls to throw down with the USA in Korea but Stalin didn't, even though the Soviet Army could have easily steam rolled over the US Army in Korea if the USSR joined in the war after China pushed.

stalin did nothing wrong xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

I just said what Stalin wrong is he didn't have the balls of Mao.

Hahaha the funny thing is I'm okay with half the shit they described lol provided you're using the correct definitions for things like "private property"

pretty much equals did nothing wrong har har xd

Not an argument. Now shoo, go back to pol or put on your anarcho-liberal flag

I can't tell if this is satire anymore

that's the thing, they didn't outright lie with some of the things, its just that they paired truthful statements (such as our opposition to private property) with images representing something quite different and untrue (taking away homes).
ignoring simple lies such as the bolsheviks taking everything into state ownership which obviously never happened

Wow you truly changed my ways. Hail Stalin

Hello Grover


Yeah, he should have killed more birds. Birds are bourgeois and probably ( ( (rootless cosmopolites) ) ) as well !

Mao was willing to openly attack the American's in Korea, Stalin wasn't despite the USSR having more far more military power then China. The USSR still had many veterans from the WWII in it ranks including ace tank commanders that would have helped greatly in steam rolling over American forces in Korea, plus the USSR at that time had more tanks, artillery and shells then it knew what to do with.

If Stalin had balls he would have thrown everything he had behind Mao's offensive.

I don't really see how Stalin relates to this, I didn't see him mentioned in the video. They just talked about the USSR in general without distinguishing between its revisionist and Leninist-Stalinist phases and Cuba. Their really attacking socialism in general and not just Stalin which would include those various non-Stalinist/revisionist socialist states/experiments that non-Stalinists generally do not uphold.

I'm surprised Venezuela and Corbyn weren't worked in there somehow.

That's Victims of Communism.

*that Stalinists generally do not uphold.

yeah cause of this little thing called MAD that made sure the entire world wouldn't go up in flames.

The USSR is a failure from A to Z, except those so-called "revisionist phases" where quality of life actually improved.
Stalin only credit is that he had the nerves needed to defend against the Nazi invasion. Few people could withstand such stress. But that's his only redemptive moment.
The Holodomor (it happened you tankies), his Anti-Semitism, his betrayal of communist refugees during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, his alliance with Hitler, Katyn, the wars of imperialist aggression against Poland and Finland, the whole gulag system… the list is simply too long.

MAD didn't exist in the Korean war, there was no such thing as nuclear missiles, bombers could be shot down and we are talking very low yield nuclear warheads compared to what would appear a decade latter.

Also China risked it and the American's did nothing so if the USSR sent 300k of its own forces into Korea odds are the Americans would have done even less and just left with their tail between their legs.

I absolutely fucking hate this animation style. It feels so generic and overused to the point that I'd rather watch Emily Youcis.

Hello Holla Forums go fuck yourself

I normally think this board is too irrelevant for cointelpro, but I wonder

Not even Robert Conquest believed in the Holodomor and he was one of the shills pushing it the hardest in Academia during the 80s.

Quality of life improved throughout the history of the USSR and the famines which were the last of the many, many famines in Soviet history

Nothing but a meme of Zionists and wealthy Trotskyists who "converted" to neoconservatism.

msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/mlg09/did_ussr_invade_poland.html

youtube.com/watch?v=9_DQ3IhNH9o
The Fin's had a fascist government in the interwar years that violently repressed and massacred Finnish communists. The Soviet Union offered to give Finland DOUBLE the territory in exchange for strategic territory around Leningrad–the Soviets also believed that Finland would be a staging ground for the Nazi invasion. The Winter War occurred in 1939-40 when WWII was already openly raging.

Then comes Operation Barbarossa where Finland invades the USSR on the side of Nazi Germany. Now this is the part where Finnish apologists start their handwringing and say "Oh, well the reason for that is they were invaded by the USSR!" so the way to prove to the world that you were an innocent victim of Soviet aggression is to join arms with the fascists in the invasion of another country?

Then after beating the Nazis and being easily able to conquer Finland in WWII, the Soviets decide to allow Finland to become independent a second time on the simple condition that they stay neutral, neither pro-West, nor pro-Soviet. Wow, so imperialist.

Katyn didn't happen but I wish it did stalinsociety.org/2015/05/07/an-interview-with-prof-grover-furr-on-the-katyn-massacre/

*many famines in Russian history

Fucking hell, I hope you're trolling

Shit I forgot to change the title

Wait. Why at 00:24 there is a mark on Venezuela?

Heh, you're a socialist? Don't you know that's literally genocide?

I wonder if he knows what do they even mean

KEK

He's totally a leftist guys…he said it himself :^)

Sargon is a personified manifestation of the eternal anglo

They know the alt-right is dead and the neoreactionary movement is too esoteric, only leftists can subvert neoliberalism.

fucking sick where do i sign up

Check out this cringe
m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhelSuCKlMs

I wish Sargon would get run over by a fucking truck, biggest cunt on earth, along with his spaghetti libertarian audience

The balls to actually institute bourgeoise into the high ranks of the party, like Mao did?

Stalin already did that by stating measuring profits was the only way to measure the efficiency of firms.

I live there and they are just as insufferable as you think.

They annoyed me before I ever became a leftist too, even when I considered myself a libertarian.

Read Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR he plainly did not say that, he argued the exact opposite in fact.

In Economic Problem of Socialism he strait out says "The law of value is primarily a law of commodity production. It existed before capitalism " contradicting Marx as Marx never said commodity production always existed or that the law of value was a natural law. Yet Stalin said:

Talk about misreading. He says that social goals determine production and not profitability, which is why heavy industry and certain consumer goods are prioritized and even subsidized while more profitable light industry isn't prioritized by the state.

He does say anything that by watching costs a socialist society can achieve long-term profits, he doesn't mean short-term profits or like under capitalism, or profits in a particular industry or firm. He was very clear that profitability didn't determine production in the USSR but that on the whole there did need to be profits for Soviet Soviety to grow as a whole. That's in-line with Marxian schemes of social reproduction even for a socialist society to maintain itself or expand it would need to retain some measure of surplus-value.

Of course commodity production didn't always exist, in certain primitive tribes there was no such thing as commodity production. But Engels in the supplement to Volume 3 BTFO'd the idiots out there who think that the law of value is unique to capitalism, which is just not true. It existed under feudalism and slavery as well, it has existed since commodity production itself has existed which dates to the start of civilization. Capitalism is a quite new form of commodity production but the law of value is not its unique product.

I would remiss not to point that for all the real and many, many alleged shortcomings of Stalin that he never lowered himself to compensate the bourgeoisie for their property ''at interest' like Mao did or completely allow the petit and outright bourgeoisie to dominate the party like Mao did. The CPC under Mao was not a proletarian party and not only bc it had bad line but because it wasn't majority proletarian.

I used to like his parodies but that was just
fucking terrible, he's clearly doing it for money now..this makes me hate capitalism even fucking more

Lol

You are construing your argument in a way that makes it too easy to refute it by a shitposter paying attention. At the start of civilization there can not have been law of value or commodity production unless you are saying that civilization started at this point, which I doubt. Don't you mean instead these came to be at some point relatively shortly after the start of civilization?

What is this Victims of Communism thing? People in the comments are saying that they have CIA connections..

There was no profits in antiquity, Ancient Egypt had no concept of commodities or profits, the pharaoh dictated what was to be produced and it was produced thus the law of value did not exist in Ancient Egypt.

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We won

LOL

Honestly the more I experience this kind of blatant anti-communist/socialist/leftist propaganda the more I sympathize with Stalin and the other left authoritarians.