Socdem flag has been renamed

We were all Social Democrats once.

Social Democracy - not even once.

You still are. Just with more guns and LARPing now.

I stand by what I said.

Market Socialism - not even omce

libertarian nazism ftw

something isn't right with this picture

its even worse when you consider that communist are still eternally butthurt about the revolutions of 1848 because they think they were betrayed by liberals.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848

This is why you have pic related

no way

Fuck off ancap, I can make fun of autistic Leninists without being a liberal.

I mean the commies basically highjacked the liberal February revolution in 1917 and betrayed the liberals right back after they had done all the hard work in ditching the monarchy, so I guess you are even now.

Lenin just gave the people what they asked for

Communists would betray liberals a thousand times over in order to achieve their goals, and liberals would do the same. They're completely opposed, incompatible ideologies, representing different class interests. That's how politics work. What's your fucking point?

I wonder if an ideology that inherently requires all sorts of people who don't agree with it to submit to it is inherently flawed and perhaps its best if you didn't try to force anyone to submit to your ideology and you just went off into your own parts of the world to live by your ideology things would work better, as would be the case in ancapistan

Right, so I guess we should abolish Capitalism then. Do you even know your history? Of course you don't

I know this is a troll thread, but if they already labeled you as a pretender anyway even before the change, it's kind of irrelevant, isn't it?

Why ?

SocDems are demons

feudal lords did nothing wrong

What kind of nonsense is this? So let's say 60% of people vote to create a new law of some kind. 40% of people will not agree to it but will have to submit to it anyway if they don't wanna get in trouble. Democracy is inherently flawed, I guess.

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"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

Why isn't there an ancapistan yet?

Democracy is dead meme.

Exactly why individuals need to be armed so they can defend their communities and their individual rights and their property rights.

ancapism has never been tried

Good

Social Democrats will forever be the worst by-product of socialism. Yes, I do mean you are even worse than any of the repression, imprisonment, poor economic planning, military worship etc that happened in the USSR, China, and Cuba in the 20th Century. Fuck every single last one of you and please go die in a hole and take your shitty ideology with you. I can't believe you're even still allowed on this board

the point of libertarianism is that the government has so little power that it doesn't matter that they aren't subscribing to your super specific ideology 100%

Do you guys honestly think you would be able to stop capitalism from remembering after you had your revolution?

I'm mostly a ancap for meme reasons, but I truly believe that communism will never work because it will require that you perpetually kill people who are ambitious enough to start their own thing.

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So you do believe that any state (democratic or not, regardless of ideology) that enforces laws is "inherently flawed"?

>defend their communities
Slow down there mate, you're not some kind of filthy collectivist, are you?

Why? What's stopping you from buying land somewhere to create your dream society? You seem to be pretty numerous and many of you are successful business owners and shit from what I've heard.

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Yeah capitalism is pretty shit m8

You mean a civil war between the rest of the country and the cute little Berlin commune, ending like the Paris one did ?

There is nothing wrong with working towards a collective good, the problem is when you force everyone to work towards this collective goal and leave them no room to do their own thing. Honestly people being triggered by collectivism and worshiping individualism is completely unproductive, because people on Holla Forums have given me very good individualist arguments for why we need to crush capitalism, mostly revolving around spook guy and something something slave morality versus master morality and that I shouldn't be happy with a capitalist oiligarchy existing above me.

My issue with all of this is that the only way to competely remove hierarchies would be to destroy civilization. Which is obviously not something I want to do.

The problem with libertarianism is that it is full of libertarians, who are notoriously bad at working together.

Also its more complicated than that. Commies should know this that when you try to remove yourself from the world system, the world system tries to destroy you.

Where you are wrong is that the world system is not just "capitalism", but a combination of capitalism and governments from various different countries.

We would basically need the get some sort of recognition from other sovereign states or else they would very quickly decide we shouldn't exist and end the experiment.

If we managed to set ourselves up we would be treated similarly to ISIS, North Korea, Rhodesia or the early soviet union.

Essentially the world capitalist-government system we currently have is far too entrenched to be able to truly challenge it as it will destroy any threats to it.

This is why I don't fundamentally disagree with you that capitalism is cancerous, but rather I don't think socialism is a "stable" system, as in you can't stop markets from reemerging unless prevent them perpetually. In the same way you will have to perpetually prevent people from accumulating capital as its just what happens when you leave things alone.

In short things are fucked and the only thing you can do is try to make them the least fucked as possible

Proles don't kill proles in other nations, kill the proles in your own nation!

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whether what they did was right or wrong is irrelevant, what matters is they did it.

Wow, you really are retarded

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FTFY

Everyone on this board who proposes that there is a problem other than Capitalism should be permabanned tbh

You literally needs to be opportunist and find the moment in which the least deaths will occur
Even if Rosa and her buddies won, Germany wasn't ready for socialism.

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The only thing I wonder about this is whether I've been posting prolifically enough to have played a part in this happening. :^)
and also whether this will precipitate an ill-considered purge.

Liberals deserve it though.

I'm actively amused by how much anger SocDems manage to incite here.
It seems too much to just blame it on that one "sexual free market ;-;" dickhead.

Apologize

Don't you have some patchouli to extract?

Post undercover like I do :^)

Freikorps were indeed a mistake.

wew

sexual free market socdem and finnish socdem are intolerable. anglo socdem who posts in the /britleftypol/ thread constantly is informed and a cute

really tickles my pickle

Cute

A vote for Hidenburg truly was a vote for Hitler btw

This tbh

I don't think the problem is technology, what I think the issue is that capitalism as a system is the product of technology which makes capital accumulation possible.

Or in short Capitalism and everything that came a long with it is the natural result of technological development, in the same way feudalism was the natural result of an agriculture based society.

Therefore if you have a problem with capitalism you have two options, go back to a time without the technology that leads to capitalism, (anarcho-primitivism) or accelerate forward to where you can colonize other planets and can have autonomy away from the system by having frontiers. (space fascism)

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And why wouldn't orienting the economy for production for use be a possibility?

you can try if you want. my the only resonable ideologies I think exist are anarcho-primitivism, anarcho-capitalism (aka fedualism), libertarianism, Nazism (aka technology enabled primitivism), and Space Fascism (aka perpetual frontierism)

You cannot escape primitivism because its a part of what humans are.

Seek help

top lel it's real

APOLOGIZE

ahahahahahaha

i've never liked the red t-shirt in the first one, it looks like it's dealing with demsocs.

(who are 95% of the time just socdems keen to pin their [red] flag to the mast, but still.)

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II
nice

YES
Ha-HA!

the rosa meme is pretty stupid tbh