USA SPQR

no
America was modeled after Locke;s ideas

it did develop a bit of a greco-roman aesthetic though

Most western societes have greco-roman aesthetics.

pillars,sewers,cobblestone roads etc

Give it a few more centuries. The burgers have only been the top dogs since the end of World War II.

more like its mirroring the collapse of the roman republic. Augustus will be a cloned version of Lenin who will establish the international socialist empire.

You who is Pan-African. Are you a lefftist or are you just a nationalist? Do you wanna kill da evil whitey Or are you a black separatist? Or you just want better conditions for black folk? Sorry for these autistic questions but i generally wonder

You can make a pretty spot-on comparison to the Late Roman Republic. It's nothing like the Empire though. It lacks an emperor for one.

you spelt "decades" wrong. the era of american world dominance is already over. china will be #1 in about 20-30 years. btw i don't think this will make the world a more pleasant place, china is just as capitalist as burgerland.

theintercept.com/2017/07/22/donald-trump-and-the-coming-fall-of-american-empire/

Not in the superficial characteristics that people tend to mean when they say that, but they do share strong similarities in an economic sense. Capital and property accumulation are what eventually toppled the Republic, and it seems to be happening the same way with the United States.

Well done, you got triggered over a Pan-African flag icon on an image board fulla posters sporting Swastikas.

Dunno. Maybe China's rule ain't gonna be as bad as burger world domination cuz socialism's got a lot more popular support given the country's history. They might just get back to their Maoist roots some day.

your naivety is almost adorable.

I forgot, the Chinese are an exceptionally moral, and virtuous people, so their imperialism will be a lot more humane.

You think the Chinese people themselves ain't a lot more left-leaning than people elsewhere in the world? Not with all the uni students in 2017 holding Maoist rallies and elders being nostalgic for the communist past? Not saying the country ain't a revisionist den of iniquity today, but I still think a lot of Chinese people individually are true reds.

Wut

it's not about "the people". do you think ordinary americans support mass murdering innocent villagers with drones. this game is about realpolitik and geopolitics, and the masses are fooled with propaganda to support the imperialist agendas of their governments, no matter if said government is a "monarchy", a "democrat repubblic" or a "communist state". in the end, the apparatus/establishment rules. this goes for all great powers, in the present and in the past.

you're so cute, may i pinch your cheek?

Clearly sarcasm

They do. Remember how nearly a decade after 9/11 50% of burgers still believed The Iraq War was good cuz Sadam was apparently the mastermind behind the attacks on The World Trade Center?

I asked what you believe in but you think i got triggered. Stop seeing yourself as a victim

and you think the average chinese isn't just as brainwashed by nationalist propaganda? look at the rampant internet censorship in china. your optimism is totally unjustified.

Sure they are, but right now they're getting a lot more socialist brainwashing than they are capitalist.

Even the communist party's divided on a lotta shit. They ain't a monolith, some wanna go right, some wanna go back further left.

Why you acting like I said some dumb shit like state capitalism's communism? I said *maybe* China will become more socialist in the future given the country's strong Maoist past. I think it's reasonable to assume there's a lotta commies left in a country home to like 25% of the world's population.

honestly no idea

My bad. Didn't read the "sorry for these autistic questions" part of your post cuz I skimmed over it and an kinda tired.

I just want a better deal for black people. A deal I think would be best achieved in a communist world cuz racism is basically just classism on steroids. No capitalism, no class, no class, no race and so on…

And im sorry for saying stop seeing yourself as a victim cuz i got a little mad

That's actually understandable cuz my reply was a lot more hostile.

I mean thats not the case anymore
The Iraq war has been viewed as a mistake for a few years in around the 55-60 %range
Took us a long time to get there though

I remember my parents protesting that shit when I was just 7-years-old. Get it together, Freedomites.

It'd be easier to just nuke us all.

I love it when comrades play nice

Are you kidding me? Ceasar was /ourguy/, definitely. Trump is more like Crassus.

Trump is Nero you fucks.

Nah, people actually liked Nero.

Haha oh goodness no, not in the least.

Nero was a vicitm of propaganda. Aggripina was bitch, but Nero wasn't. Don't believe the slander of Pliny the Elder, also don't believe the rootless cosmopolitans that try to pin the burning of Rome on him.

So what, you prefer the the quasi-fascist oligarchy and corporatism of the optimats and austerity? Caesar was a man of the people.

good sassenach…

If he truly was then he would have abolished the senate and returned control of the government to the popular assemblies. He was an aristocrat with a keen understanding of politics and he learned the lessons of the preceding decades well: political alliances among the senate are fleeting and will get you killed some day if you happen to be standing on the wrong side at the wrong time. He saw the popular support of the previous dictators Pompeius and Sulla, and used the popular support he carefully sewed and cultivated as a counterweight against senate reaction. Whatever feelings he might have had specifically regarding the people in general, I think it would be absurd to claim that his chief motivation was to insulate himself politically from the senate so that it wouldn't be his ass on the proscription list of whatever dictator came after him (both in the predatorial sense and sequentially).

Both are worse.

Somebody in another thread a while back made a comparison between the Roman deployment of troops being very expensive to arm but thin in numbers to the Americans doing the same thing. Anyone/that specific user here and could rehash and/or expand on this comparison? Thanks

In the later part of the empire, Rome was suffering from severe depopulation, so part of creating smaller legions was due to that. They were coming up too again alien tribes that had both adapted to Roman legionary tactics, as well as developed technologically. Mounted soldiers eclipsed foot soldiers, and one of the ways Rome dealt with the increasing number and sophistication of cavalry was by providing their own with the heaviest and most advanced armor they could provide. Because of the expense, this also acted as a disincentive toward the older, larger legions.

Increasing chaos at the edges of the empire and the inability of foot soldiers to pursue or outpace mounted enemies saw them increasingly relegated to border forts and the deployment of cavalry to the trouble zones. As imperial cohesion deteriorated, legionary remnants persisted for some time in the areas they were stationed, having settled and acclimated (or been settled there, as the Empire allowed foreign tribes to settle within its borders to try and deal with the population problem).

Unfortunately though, Rome never develops a stable way of transferring power from one emperor to another, so despite these innovations and adaptations, whatever they were able to gain or conserve with them was wasted on internecine fighting. When the German tribes eventually sweep through, whatever actual control the Empire exerted over the Western regions was either decrepit or entirely nominal.

That's my understanding, anyway, and if anyone can provide me with corrections then please do.

You could draw parallels between these developments and America's current military methods, but I think the material conditions underlying both are separated by a large gulf, and without taking the context of each into account direct comparisons aren't very useful. The United States and Rome both share numerous similarities, but typically in ways that people don't intend when they compare the two.

Thanks friendo