Why are anarchists and there derivatives the only ideologies to actually present a picture of how society should...

Why are anarchists and there derivatives the only ideologies to actually present a picture of how society should function after the revolution?

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cuz we is smart lik dat

But literally no other leftist ideology does this. They all rely on vagueries and "uh, we just can't know that bro" or "it all just whithers away bro" but these are highly unsatisfying and lazy answers

Guess cause an anarchist society is a lot easier to explain than the complicated web that is a state.

"…in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, to fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I have in mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic."
t. Karol Marggs 'The German Ideology'

I would say its the other way round, very difficult to explain how a web of federations would function, if you have centralism, it all functions the same way

we all know thats the ideal, but he never really says how to get there. Neither do any of his followers in any meaningful way

Because a socialist society will shape based on material conditions and a lot of people think it is a waste of time to spend tons of time planning or dwelling on it TOO much if this is the case. Besides, there are plenty of different contemporary works now that achieve what you're looking for.

Also: critique of gotha programme.

Because they're stuck in enlightenment thinking.

I suppose that's true.

Easier to simplify then?

its just weak as fuck sauce.

Such as?

I've read it, and it does not contain a post revolutionary plan

read cockshott fags

Because anarchism is best

Forgot to take off the shitposting flag

Cybersyn is interesting but this is borderline 90's silicon valley lolbert thinking

you are not an anarchist, you are a feudalist, and a shitty purveyor of bait

Literally every utopian starting with Plato did that.

Anarcho-capitalism is the only true anarchism, and you know it

or use a pen and fucking paper if you want
Cockshott uses actual mathematics, it's more than any of you anarchists have written with your appeals to nature and anthropology™

You know that the basis of anarchism is horizontallity and ending all hierarchy, not just the state, right?


No, that's the basis of communism.
The basis of anarchism is ending all illegitimate powers. Explain to me how an anarchist society can prevent capitalism to reborn from free contracts between individuals (e.g. between two neigbors that want to exchange the goods they produce) and still be anarchist. You need some violence, some power so capitalism doesn't appear again from free contracts between individuals.

Literally a lolbert STEM OR NOTHING argument, people use math to "prove" all sorts of false as shit. I also strongly doubt that whatever formula he came up with is complex enough to govern a whole society

The basis of anarchism is getting rid of the state, nothing else. The state and capitalism are inextricably linked so as the words are almost interchangeable, you cannot have one without the other.

end yourself you stupid nigger

Don't make me break the NAP boy or I swear I will drop McNukes on you

After money is abolished, good luck trying to con people into using it again. Capitalism can't just "appear" out of communism. Also the only reason the revolution has to be violent is because the capitalist state violently enforces private property rights and considers seizing the means of production theft. Any violence is self defense on the part of the working class.

Two people exchanging goods or services is capitalism, indeed.

While anti-statism is central, anarchism specifically entails opposing authority or hierarchical organisation in the conduct of all human relations, including, but not limited to, the state system.

Dude borrowing your neighbors yard tools is capitalism lmao.

But if someone in ancommunistan goes to live alone in the forest, and find a far away neighbor with whom he can exchange some goods they produce, will someone go there and kill them ?

anarcha-syndicalism and mutualism are the only brands of anarchism that are not totally pseudoscientific bullshit

no capitalism is when you invest capital to start a company, and the hire people to take their surplus value.
not when two ten year olds trade playing cards

please stop posting that pic,

Capitalism just means the accumulation of capital by privately owned institutions.

No, capitalism is based on the private ownership of the means of production for profit. Not "exchanging goods for services". Look it the fuck up.

first 3 replies is OP talking to themselves.

btw fuck Kropotkin


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Go back to your daddy Tito Boy

SuccDems do that too

And they say Marx isn't an idealist

yeh nah

It does that by abolishing private ownership, which itself is based on violence. Property is an inherently coercive institution since the essence of ownership is saying "this is mine and if you touch it I'll kill you".