Holla Forums if you could prevent one event in history, what would it be? It would HAVE to be a leftist related event...

Holla Forums if you could prevent one event in history, what would it be? It would HAVE to be a leftist related event. So for example, you can stop the death of the Free Territory of Ukraine. What event related to the left do you stop? And what would more than likely be the fallout of that event
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Whatever would give us Kaisereich timeline.

Oh right, and killing Hitler does not count until after Operation Barbarossa

Making the Bolshevik Revolution fail horribly is a step the right direction

the creation of life

The formation of language.

Those aren't related to the left you illiterate shits

Stop the USSR betraying the Spanish revolution

WW1/the collapse of the international workers movement is the obvious choice

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Making the USSR switch to computers to plan their economy, instead of relying on bureaucrats.

Would a communist movement been easier to pull off without the red scare? Certainly would undercut socdems.

Read Zerzan, faggot.

Simple, SPD doesn't become reformist, creates commie revolution when given power

(Makhnovist Ukraine existing w/ soviet union obvs. second choice)

Read Bookchin, hut dweller.

Prevent the failure of Southern Reconstruction.

I mean there's bound to be some brainwashing and a much more minor red scare might happen. I got a feeling Leninism is gonna take a nosedive as a valid left philosophy

How is that related to the left?

Abolishon of slavery tbh

World War I.

t. totally not Holla Forums

kill baby hitler

prevent Emma Goldman's birth. idpol and intersectionality would cease to exist.

Idpol would still exist without Goldman

i never heard anything about her inveting idpol or intersectionality (she has femenist views at a time when women were treated quite badly)

I would kill Bookchin and make it look like the CIA did it.

lemme think for a bit…prevent the reformation of the Second Frankfurt school

I dunno, an icepick to the head would've cure her illness

Enlighten me, what was the second Frankfurt school?

The death of Rosa Luxemburg and serious leftism in Germany as a whole

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the later theorists infected themselves liberalism, which is antithetical to traditional Marxist though. liberalism is porky Internationalism. read Combat Liberalism.

figures an Anarkiddie would say something like that.

Rosa was a great person

Preventing WW1 with a global general strike would be fun. 2nd choice would be to give the CNT-FAI a massive tech boost(autoloading battle rifles, AFV's, computers, radar, encryption and decryption, medicine, aircraft and anti-air weapons) as well as working out the ammunition problems that they would have been dealing with, and see what happens.

I'd stop COINTELPRO.
MLK would have survived to continue the nonviolent revolutionary struggle.
Malcolm X would have survived to continue the armed revolutionary struggle.
The BPP would have survived to continue their political education program.
Fred Hampton would have survived to unite the proletariat in a true rainbow coalition in the revolutionary struggle.
To put it bluntly…

WE WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED SOCIALISM IN THE UNITED STATES BY 1980 AT THE LATEST

I'd try to prevent the death of Fred Hampton. I'd like the think the american left would be stronger if he were able to escape assassination.

either the failure to set up Breton Woods correctly (i.e. the victory of the American Dexter-White proposals over the British Keynes proposals.) or the failure of the Cuban missile crisis to blossom into a full blown nuclear war.

if i actually thought about it longer i could pick an event with more utility to the left, but there's no point me risking saying something that someone else would say.

I would kill FDR, Trotsky, and Franco

Damn right, my guy.

I doubt it. Porky needs his money, rite goys? Hehe

I'd make the Paris Commune Succeed. It would make socialism happen much quicker!

The Bolshevik Loss at the battle of Warsaw.

Only in the inter cities. There’s more to the country then that. If you want a Socialist USA just have the Socialist Party win the 1912 election in both congress and the presidency. Eugene Debbs would’ve been put in power.

Forgot your shitposting flag?

Anyway I agree with this. Altho it might be literally impossible, the Commune was so fucked. Maybe having the German Revolution succeed would be better.

I mean, isn't porky a shitpost flag?

Well yeah but it implies you'd say a porkish thing. Hoping socialism comes sooner doesn't sound that way.

Well the revolution being contained to just Paris would be awful. Maybe if it expanded to the greater region I guess it could work

9/11

1973

I'd rather only destroy one city than an entire nation.

I'd stop Marx from writing anything. Without his legacy, capitalism would be less well understood and therefore capitalists would have a harder time stabilizing it, while the inherent problems would still be there. Collapse and revolution would honestly probably have happened much faster.

Republican Spain would still have lost

I would prevent the Spartacists from being subdued. If it wasn't for the SPD, we could have been living in socialism right now or at least socialism would have a much stronger presence on the planet.

Woodstock.

Stop the SPD from betraying the revolution in Germany.

I think the first World War and the collapse of the german revolution where the main event which stopped Socialism from becoming a reality in the 20th century.

For the Republicans to win they’d have to gain control of Aragon because that providence separated Republican forces in the Basque Area from the rest of the Republicans. Also they’d need more manpower. For this to happen the National Syndicalists would have to fight for the Republicans and not the nationalists.

I'd stop Lenin from having a stroke.

Some other psychopath would have stepped in any case ya dingus.

Hitler and Germany would have a communist revolution.

The success of the german revolution of 1918 is the only right answer. We would have space communism by now if they had survived.

I'd stop Stalin before he could poison Lenin.

Or…or…or…it just becomes Fascism of some kind

Have the freikorps turn on the SPD in Germany and defect to the Revolutionary army.

Tbh it would have been more realistic for the SPD to actually do what its supporters wanted and not betray the revolution. They were playing both sides against one another from the beginning, and pandered to the revolutionaries to win a majority in the worker's councils then began dismantling all of their political/economic gains. If they hadn't done that then the freikorps would have had a well organized and armed opposition which included tens of thousands of WW1 vets. The Freikorps was composed of the most reactionary elements of the military and German society in general, them joining the revolutionaries would be unthinkable. The SPD not being garbage on the other hand is actually a possibility.

I always assumed it would spread like the Revolution did.

Prevent the poisoning of Stalin by the khrushchev clique.

Wrong.
Should've never have allowed any such illusions in the character of the SPD, then this could've been prevented. What was needed is revolutionary terror against their leading figures as full retaliation.

Probably something recent, because I like the fact that history enabled me to be born.

Perhaps prevent the betrayal of Syriza to Greece's current austerity program.

only if you were retarded enough to fall for them in the first place, lmao
again, the problem is with you and your illusions into social democracy

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Either prevent the death of Abe Lincoln or William Sylvis

United Communes of America here we come baby

Gorbachev dies instead of Andropov

What would that have accomplished?

Maybe then Rosa's Reich could of risen

Gonna piggyback off of this and ask Holla Forums if there's any alt history scenarios in general they'd find interesting for a Paradox game mod

Personally I was thinking of working on something involving the Burr conspiracy but that's just an idea

None because fuck those DRM-peddling sellouts.

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Use your imagination with any of these

Operation Paperclip

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I'm curious now. If we did have 100% Marxist Leninism on earth would it eventually blossom into Communism or would it just be 100% Fascism painted red

I would have the German revolution succeed. >tfw the industrial powerhouse of Germany joins forces with the Soviet Union
We would legit have communism at this point.

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Idk. I got a feeling we might get an East West Scenario like after WW2. Except this time it's North South. The German army could concentrate up north and the revolution would be stuck till Lenin comes and helps. But if Rosa succeeded I got a feeling France might turn red. Or at least red enough to not have an invasion of Bavaria happen immidiately

I've always wondered what might have been if the On To Ottawa Trek had made it to Ottawa.

save malenkov fuck over that prick krushchev and make sure revisionists dont destroy the union

No she wasn't she deserved to die

Franco and Stalin mmmkay

fuck you succdem peice of shit

I would prevent what ever caused SJWs to exist so that true leftism never dies.

You would be okay with day-to-day life under Stalin keeping on?

Night of the Long Knives. It would be interesting to see what happened.

In order from more to less important:

1) Prevent the splits and expulsions in the First International and its successors. It may not have resulted in total left unity, but it would have at least allowed more diverse ideological proliferation to be supported by a proper international network of support and organization.
2) Prevent the betrayal of the 1918 German Revolution by the SocDems, thereby affording the revolution a foothold in the more developed parts of Europe and ensuring that the Bolsheviks are not isolated (assuming the Spartacists are successful). While I remain skeptical about the long-term prospects of the Leninist project in Russia and elsewhere, not having to turn to extreme internal survival as the main priority would definitely help alleviate a number of failures in the USSR in moving towards actual socialism.
3) Stagger the mobilization of the Nationalist forces in Spain and prevent the Army of Africa from getting into Iberia. It may not necessarily result in a victory still, but it might allow the Civil War to be treated as more of a regional insurrection than the society-wide head-to-head it became.
4) Prevent the PCE in Spain from disarming the militias. Partly because it was a clear attempt to try and neutralize the anarchist presence (the side I would personally root for), but also because it robbed the anti-fascist forces of their single largest individual fighting force. Still might have been too late in the war to matter.
5) Prevent the suppression of organizations like the IWW in the US, seeing as they were probably the most revolutionary institution at play in its heyday. I would like to say it might have had the potential to actually push into the realm of more active revolutionary politics, but at the very least its proliferation may have at least helped to put a leash on some of the worst excesses of US domestic and international policy if their influence was allowed to bloom.

ehh i think id be fine with it

I would kill FDR in 1943/1944, which would mean Little Boy was never dropped, which would Result in Communist Japan.
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I don't want to evoke a fallacy of false equivalency here, but I honestly think you're making the same assumption of the average fashie that believes he would thrive in a brutal regime they idealize.

Another comr8 a while ago nailed it. If the Bolshevik revolution happened now, we socialists would be the Old Guard, whereas SJWs, being the sociopaths they are, would be the NKVD flunkies bumping us off.