Again and again all I hear about is how "we need to raise awareness of marxism" but these stalinist fuckboys are a walking billboard for the right to point to and slander the left with. Its like trying to teach people about enviromentalism with a guy screaming about chemtrails standing right next to you, but also that guy doesnt believe the holocaust happened.
I guess it comes down to "why do you want socialism in the first place". For me its a path to a better future, my country (canada)'s problems arent that bad. We can definitely achieve them through reform here. But then I hear some tankies larping about "overthowing the government and how cool would it be if china invaded" So clearly they dont actually give a fuck about human life (their absurd defense of russia and china's atrocities is proof of that) Its just ideology for ideology's sake. They're basically fucking fascists.
So tankies. We're all punching nazi's. Why shouldn't I throw a brick at your fucking head?
Ancoms saying "its not real communism" is worse than anything tankies have done.
Tankies are funny. Ancom have no humor.
Rightists: "Ummmm don't you know Stalin killed 1000 million people?" Tankies: "Hell yeah!"
William Thomas
Tankies=!ML this is a truly awful thread
Caleb Baker
So I'm clear, what exactly is a tankie?
Because I was under the impression it was anyone who favours stalinism or maoism and handwaves mass genocide
Jaxon Parker
This.
Zachary Hill
Tankie is a grown-up leftie.
Sebastian James
Why does everyone tolerate you, OP?
Jaxson Watson
So yes. You're just a fascist who likes red and pretending you represent the common people
free country asshat.
Ethan Long
yes. The gap between the rich and poor are higher than ever, employment rates are still declining, we have a disillusioned youth that's more sterile than ever, there are more homes without people than there are people without homes, another market failure is imminent, and fascism is on the rise.
BUT TANKIES ARE THE PROBLEM YOU GUYS, RIGHT?!? sage
Leo Bennett
There is a difference between Authority and Fascism. Authority can be left-wing.
Benjamin Ramirez
None laughs with this you idiot, only you think you are funny. Most people rightfully ignore and dismiss you as edgy teenagers. Let's see your "humor" when someone makes even the slightest criticism of your dead states and daddies.
Leo Nguyen
I see you've never talked to a tankie online outside of Holla Forums
Juan Jones
Tankies are the poison pill in our ranks is my point. I'm wondering if its your civic duty to beat the shit out of maoists too.
Okay, now what's the difference between fascism and you fucks?
Brody Jones
The goal and strategy is the opposite. Fascist are Imperialists. We are Anti-Imperialists.
this image is a bottom barrel facebook tier meme, you should be embarrassed for saving it
Wyatt Cook
But some blue-haired revisionist liberals are? Go fuck yourself, you useless piece of trash. Go try. I'll literally eat parts of you.
Do you even know what fascism is you spermdrinking bonobo?
Cooper Ortiz
Because they're ultimatly harmless larpers who at most say dumb shit on twitter.
Joshua Miller
At least one men got hurt by it. Is already good.
Nicholas Hughes
hahahahaha you actually believe this shit? Switch the last two captions and this would probably spread like wildfire on Holla Forums
Julian Robinson
if theres anything the working class cares about, its defending stalin against liberal propaganda
Ayden Gutierrez
Are you honestly suggesting that stalin was anti imperialist?
Lol, he mad
You and the liberals are bad, but You're definitely worse.
Isaac Jones
Anti-Imperialist policy in Middle East of Stalin ruined English colonies worldwide.
Mason Ross
bait
Easton Collins
Also China been freed.
Jace Davis
because it's protected by a big green tank?
Thomas Morris
rekt
Camden Diaz
Drink some rat poison, faggot. I wish you acute gastritis for your 18th birthday. You don't know what you are talking about, and you are vocal about it, so feel free to wallow in your stupidity.
Eli Hall
OP does have a point though. But i wouldn't talk about "tankies" only: i think it would be better for us as a whole to recognise the atrocities that important and historical socialist countries did through the course of the revolution.
I wouldn't advocate for violence toward our fellow comrades though.
Luis White
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Nathan Johnson
Define tankie. I'm against what happened in czechoslovakia and hungary (not poland tho), I'm not a LARPer or 100% supportive of certain goverments because anti imperliasm, I don't think that too much autoritarianism is good and I don't think everyone should be hanged. At the same time I'm a hardline marxist-leninst and a stalin lover (I don't agree with a lot of shit he did tho). This qualify me as a tankie?
John Flores
Also I don't like mao and maoists
Mason Taylor
The right will always label any socialism as Stalinism no matter how many times you repeat the mantra of 'not real socialism' might as well embrace it and defend it, that will really throw them off. Its tankie arguments about the exaggerations about the soviet union that they really have no answer to because they hardly ever hear them This is the antifa problem, just as they call anything fascist, you will call anyone who says anything good about the soviet union a 'tankie'. So you basically get to throw a brick at anyone with a different version of leftism. You can't achieve socialism through reform, thats socialism 101. Please read The State and Revolution by Lenin, here (its relatively short) and explains why socialism can't be achieved by reform: marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ Perhaps you should read some of those 'absurd' defenses, they actually have a point. You have been infected with the right wing virus of anti communism where even the slightest hint of saying anything good about the USSR, China, etc. and not saying they were 100% bad and 100% hell on earth, sends you into hysteria. Its possible to have a nuanced appraisal of certain societies, saying that they did some good things and some bad. This is the adult position. This ridiculous stereotype of the recalcitrant tankie who literally says the USSR and Stalin dindus, is just a strawman and has never even existed outside of one ultra conservative party hack soviet politician in 1949. Even Mao himself considered Stalin to have been 40% wrong. Horseshoe theory? Debunking gorillions = chemtrails? ussr = fascism? This is some sargon of akkad centrist neolib tier dogshit.
John Smith
you should kill yourself
you aren't intelligent and you don't have any power
Zachary Moore
Shit, Spot was my jam.
Jayden Carter
dude wat We're aren't talking about "gommunism killed the entire population of russia :DDD" kind of bullshit. Recognising that during the course of our history as a political force we commited stuff that today would be considered as "atrocities" isn't "falling for nazi propaganda". If anything, we're doing something that Holla Forums has yet to do: they're so disconnected from reality that they dont even belive in their own party's atrocities. Times were different, and with time standards do change: if in 1930 hanging a political opponent was considered revolutionary, doing so today will get you the "you're a cunt" label in no time. There are other ways to deal with reactionary forces and be considered ethical in 2017. Or, we can keep beliving that shoving an AK down everyone's throat in this day and age will surely guarantee us victory and create a new socialist society "just because" that's how they did it in the past.
Ayden Ortiz
How about instead of an AK, we use molten gold for the really annoying ones?
Anthony Wood
game of thrones style? *hell yeahuuh*
Kayden Foster
SUCCDEMDETECTED.JPG Hi, there. pic very related
Jordan Stewart
hey don't loop socdems in with people who think things are remotely acceptable and that one more heave will fix things, Canada is a future debt zombie. Even in capitalist terms they're fucked going forwards. (there are possible solutions to the debt-zombie problem through comparatively radical reform, but not for the problem of being under capitalism.) the honestly stated aim of social democracy ought to be to render capitalism tolerable for the duration of life under capitalism, not to abolish capitalism via reform. the left must master division of labour.
Oh well, It's Big in Japan
Aaron Garcia
Given HISTORY, you should be asking yourself, why will tankies tolerate you? Because tankies are the ones who take power, so you'd better get your shit straight if you want to live.
