Honest question to everyone who opposes open borders or believes in "socialism in one country": why do you hate the...

Honest question to everyone who opposes open borders or believes in "socialism in one country": why do you hate the global poor?

Because they're genetically inferior

You're attacking a nonexistent group here. Get a grip man.


Stop using terms you clearly don't understand.

Prove it.

Capitalist open borders is not the same as leftist Internationalism

Because a country going through a socialist revolution doesn't have the resources to feed the entire world. Global poverty actually gets perpetuated through migration (brain drain, muscle drain) as the real poor don't have the means to pay the human traffickers.

Global poverty is a structural, systemic issue that takes structural solutions to solve. Moving a billion migrants to the wealthier countries is not the way to fix it.

Sage because there is a whiff of Holla Forums around this thread

brain drain and muscle drain is actually the result of closed borders. Before the U.S. closed the border to Mexico and started labeling Mexican migrants as illegal, Mexican migrant workers would just work during harvesting season then return to Mexico to their families. When it became harder to legally travel to the U.S. for work, the migrants would bring their families and stay permanently in the U.S.

r/neoliberal detected

wew, we got here a right wing leftist

Internationalism =! globalism

sage, read a book, ect

Alright, but that's the specific North American situation. In Europe, which is on the spotlight nowadays in terms of illegal immigration, due to the existence of the Mediterranean, the Sahara and political conflict, it is virtually impossible for migrants to return home like that. People who come to Europe are here to stay, and their home countries suffer for it. Remember the ones who are coming aren't the slum people, they are healthy, lower-middle class young man who make up the core basis for a functioning labor force.

Not even talking about academia. How many graduates from the University of Lagos do you think want to stay in Nigeria? And skilled personnel that is badly, badly needed there.

what a waste of quints…
take what you stole and return to your pit of filth
>>>Holla Forums

You as a staunch supporter of the Gulags if they would have put those 1 billion Migrants into gulags would it actually have solved the crisis ?

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posted an image suggesting the gulag would be a good palace for me to be in

you have to go back

ethnic diversity reduces social trust and cohesion,
this is well supported by the social sciences
lot's of social trust necessary for communes to function well

I'm practical. Open borders do more harm than good ; it simply displaces poverty, it doesn't solve it.
It create racial tension, endanger nation, and provide reinforcement for the reserve army of labour.

I'm back, thanks for wanting me here

Because people emigrating form the third world doesn’t change the situation in the third world. It worse the situation for third worlders who chose to stay. It just means there will be less people in the third world. Also it reduces wages in the first world.

I don't hate them, but I'm also not willing to let them all move into my country and bring violence, crime, and poverty with them. If they can improve their situation, then more power to them, but if that'd have to happen the expense of my countrymen, then fuck 'em.

Simple as that.

Besides, what would be helped? There are 1-2 billion people in poverty. Is your solution to ferry them all into Europe and the US, which would then collapse, leading to even more suffering and poverty. Those who advocate for open borders are delusional if they think they can alleviate the world's suffering by bringing what amounts to a drop in the ocean into the First World. Open borders is Feels > realZ: The Policy.

false, the Migrants just make more room for the remaining population to breed

I'm not a lefty, but there is no reason you guys need to ignore the fact the multiculturalism just does not work.

Having homogenous nations would not stop these nations from helping each other and being communist together.

Think of it this way, if all economic factors were re movement from where you would live, naturally everyone would gravitate to the people who are most similar to them, speaking the same language, same traditions and cultural practices, and yes even looking like each other.

All lefty support for open borders is doing is creating hate between different proletariats and driving the proles straight into our arms. So thanks for that!

Who knew leftypol was so spooked on race

Because literally never in the history of the world as anyone went and moved abroad to a different country with a different culture.
But if you are a consistent ethnonationalist and honestly believe that people always naturally gravitate to their like - you should support international socialism, as it removes the economic and security incentive for migration.

Better to improve the areas where the global poor already live (most of the time - in some cases for sheer practicality it's better to move people, as may be worth considering for - say - Nauru, a 20 mile island of 9000 people that strip-mined itself to death.) than move them to the first world and leave impoverished death zones while imposing mass unemployment and public-service strain on the first world on such a scale that nobody would benefit.

seriously, if you must be here, wait a few weeks, compile a few arguments, and make a serious debate thread instead of toxic shitposts every other day. I left reddit to escape this shit.

it’s lefty/pol/