How do y'all feel about YPG Rojava?

Absolutely irrelevant whether they are "actual" socialists or otherwise. They are leftists and they are progressive, if their revolution will be successful it will send shockwaves through the Middle East challenging both the gulf dynasties and the despotic strongmen of the Levant and North Africa.

100% /ourguys/ and for once a step in the right direction in this fucked up region.

it should be obvious at this point they have drunk the imperialist flavor-aid and are basically just a proxy. expect them to never get past social democracy for some crazy, unexplained reason

Shot yourself

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if the kurds want to larp as gommies, good for them
ethno states for everyone

We must protect Syrian socialism from Jewish-Kurdish ethno-national fascism.

Man we can deal with that fact, you dont have to pretend you are talking with liberals on reddit.

They're not just bullshitting for attention though. They might brag about starting a revolution and killing fascists, sorta like shitposters on this site going BASH DA FASH! But they are completely serious about their love of Öcalan and about implementing his ideas.

If they were merely pretending, then they could just as easily stop displaying Öcalan's image everywhere to make the western world less nervous but I'm pretty sure they would sooner die than do that.

If you listen to that one episode from that one podcast, "From Rojava with Love" by "Delete Your Account", you can hear PissPigGrandad describe in great detail how the Kurds are completely entranced by their ideals right down to the frontline squads.

BASH DAESH!

Fuck Americucks
Fuck Capitalism
Fuck Zionism
Fuck NATO

!Support Communist Rojava!

hey now don't be biting the hand that feeds

I will never not find Alunya's eyeshadow and short hair combo arousing.

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What you must understand is that Rojava is well aware of the dangers of cooperating with the US. This is not their first rodeo: they have been betrayed by the US in a similar fashion no less than 3 times in living memory. Almost every major spokesperson and even personal accounts for/by the Kurds has expressed the fact that they KNOW the US doesn't care about them and will likely betray them. They know that the US's only interest in them, both now and in the past, is as a tool for regional instability. The US also doesn't really want to work with Rojava either; it's just that the FSA flopped and the more conservative Peshmerga isn't willing to move into Syria.

Their acceptance of US aid is not done out of any shared ideological alignment or true mutual benefit; it is done purely as a means of survival. Rojava can beat back ISIS more-or-less on its own. If Assad ignites conflict with Rojava, they'll be lucky to hold on to what territory they have while fighting a two-front war. If Turkey intervenes further, it will not only mean the destruction of Rojava as a political entity, but based on the actions of the 2016 intervention, they will absolutely commit genocide against the Kurds and every other group aligned with Rojava currently. The US doesn't want an independent Rojava and they will absolutely drop their support the moment it looks like that proposition has solid long-term prospects.

rojava has not surpassed capitalism as a mode of production, you should support rojava but not for the wrong reasons

Bold claim. ISIS has been assraping more professional forces before.
It's sort of a "good" thing that Turkey is still in the NATO, it prevents the US from getting too cozy with Rojava, since Turkey is still a very important strategical alley.

i understand why theyve done it and the lend lease was fine. the bases are getting into dangerous territory though and i wont be holding my breath for any socialist development once the war freezes up

You know, it IS pretty weird that they'd ask:

Not sure what the point of that was.

I'll support them when they upload pics of their vegan batallion and their Cute Kitten Squad.
Now, tbh, I'm neutral to them, but I trust them less every day…

The criteria for calling those forces "professional" has often been "has expensive toys from the US"

Definitely /ourguys/. Although my main criticisms of them, most specifically the SDF, is that they seem to rely too much on the US, and that they still support the idea of private property (though they say that they approve of it as long as it is the hands of the people)

I don't see why Assad would bother fighting a two-front war. They can simply wait until ISIS is completely destroyed before they get uppity with Rojava. Maybe then they'll be locked in a stalemate where they try to negotiate/reject Kurdish autonomy, but I don't see why the Kurds should wait for permission before trying to set up their ideas for decentralized control in the north.

On the other hand, Rojava doesn't have to get aggressive either. YPG doesn't have to swoop in and try to off Assad just because he wagged his finger at communes, and I don't think they want to. Wouldn't they just anger Russia and get them to side with Turkey?

Didn't eliminate the commodity production etc, but still they seem to be the least cancerous option in the war, so I can give them critical support them by voting for them in strawpolls on Holla Forums.

Fucking imperialist shill!

You might be getting ahead of yourself, comrade. They are far from communist.

Nope. All the best to them, but they are culturally alien to the rest of the MENA, and lack the productive base to spread ideology by force or support revolutions elsewhere.

The movement is huge in Turkey, and also has strong roots in Iraq and Iran.

Hardly. Iraqi Kurdistan is ruled by criminal gangs posing as right wing politicians, and Turkish Kurdistan is a bombed out wasteland. Iranian Kurds have no interest in revolution or independence.

Fuck off.

I can't tell who's strawmanning who anymore