Go find a shotgun and blow your brains out, you piece of shit.
Dylan Evans
The Army is made of proles who have been bamboozled totally, expose that and you have dissatisfied people who know how to kill. Rope, sales, lamposts, and so on.
Hunter Hall
yeah alright buddy keep sucking that brass cock
Asher Morgan
I'm mad and not mad On one hand I'm glad cuties don't have to take part in the imperialist war machine. On the other many trans people join the military because it's on of the few good employment opportunities until now that they didn't need to worry much about in terms of their status as trans people.
Jason Ross
Having an army doesn't mean you will wage war. You need army in case some bad happens, be it a natural disaster or whatever. Fucking hell.
Hudson Davis
Literally no one gave a shit about them being in the army, is just a way to spread misconceptions and prejudices about trans people.
Daniel Thompson
This too, trans people are great people.
Liam Murphy
Liberals were ALWAYS fans of the military. Look at how many Democrats voted in favor of war with Iraq, and you can be damn sure they'd line up for war with Iran or the DPRK even if they did piss and moan a little.
Ryan Lewis
yeah dude the US military which exists right now isn't led by hawks and used to brutally destroy any opposition to amerikkkan kkkapitalist hegemony
Jose Perry
This is true, but we are talking about the AMERICAN MILITARY here, not some small army geared towards self defense. It is inseparable from America's role as the preeminent imperialist power.
Blake Bailey
Yes, but this thread is about the US army (if the inclusion of "Trump" didn't make that clear).
The US army is currently engaged in 7 illegal wars. To agree with >>1904069's sentiment – cuties don't have to take part in the imperialist war machine.
It's pretty shitty how many poor people feel compelled to join the army to get housing, healthcare, and education. If not joining the army means they can't get these things – don't be mad at the army, be mad at the politicians.
Leo Foster
Fuck man, my trans friend was just talking to me the other day about how that might be the only way they can leave their parents house. Kind of sad to see this in the news. I'm as against our big as fuck military as any other leftist, including my aforementioned friend, but sometimes you don't have much of a choice. I guess that option is closed for more people now.
Brody Flores
i cant imagine what mindset would make someone believe that overbearing parents are worse than uh, overbearing surrogate parents who you have to kill and die for
Jose Morales
This If trans people had more employment opportunities I wouldn't really care about this but as of now it's one of there only steady options.
Tyler Taylor
I didn't say that. But if something bad happens you'll be fucked without an army. With eathquakes and tornado's you need an army like force to help and solve problems quickly. Japan gets pretty fucked up each time a earthquake happens and having no army to go around with.
Yes and US army helps with natural disasters.
Aiden Morgan
I think you're underestimating how bad parents can be
Julian Murphy
Yeah, don't let the trans shit distract us all from the russia hearing today!
Kevin Thompson
Most trans I've met online (twitter) have been reactionary as fuck.
Carson Scott
You're just a transphobe.
Parker Peterson
army like force… so… not an army exclusively. perhaps you could have a labor army to help people rather than murder them
Josiah Watson
The military is not a "steady option". It's blood money. That's like saying gangbanging is a steady option.
Jason Murphy
Yes, which is what the army already does. They help more people out than they murder people. Good job.
Christian Mitchell
Twitter is a cesspool of hillbots. It's not representative of anything except that you're terrible at judging selection bias.
Jeremiah Walker
unless, of course, they're part of imperialist hegemony… damn,
Cameron Nelson
Are you talking about the military that blows up hospitals on a regular basis?
Nathan Morales
Prove it. Then again they also build more advance hospitals in the country they are.
Sebastian Taylor
holy shit is this guy actually defending the us military. i thought he was just throwing out stupid hypotheticals
Jonathan Campbell
I want simple proof. I only defend them because they do also help people out, be it in their own country or not.
Jordan Smith
buddy you might want to find another board no offense
Oliver Taylor
So asking for proof for some claim is not allowed now? Come on.
Daniel Watson
Holy shit I just got banned from the Chapo Trap House discord for saying that it's a good thing that trans people can't serve in the army
the whole channel ganged up on me defending the military and then they axed me
CHAPO TRAP HOUSE = IDPOL NEOLIBERAL SCUM
Isaiah Lee
Are you fucking with me right now?
Zachary Foster
I've read SICP and did almost all the exercises!
Samuel Long
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James Howard
i didn't make the claim and i have no stake in propping it up but to defend the military at all is a bit uhhh OFF for a leftist board
Aiden Wright
He's saying that because you're an idiot who clearly doesn't post here. How many articles proving you wrong do you want, fam? There are dozens.
Hudson Hughes
That's basically what you are saying. Noted.
If you make a claim you better come with some sort of proof. Which never happens.
Anthony Butler
When you are banned from a discord server, you cannot view channel logs. Sorry, I would share them, but their arguments were like "well the army paid for my useless dumbass cousin to go college so it's actually a Good Thing"
the US army is literally nationalism, imperialism, islamophobia, etc etc all rolled together
Can't wait to hear how this isn't good enough, doesn't count, etc
Samuel Edwards
i don't quite appreciate the strawman you're constructing my man i just think you'd be better suited somewhere else where your beliefs won't be thrashed by fervent disbelievers
Hunter Carter
So nine out of how many?
Adrian Campbell
The fuck? Out of how many what?
Landon Kelly
bro it's okay they didn't bomb 10 hospitals so they are still a good thing and not a bad thing
Wyatt Sanchez
Hospitals of course. Also count in the hospitals they have rebuild and build in said countries.
Jaxon Hughes
I didn't say that.
Angel Collins
Why don't you count them faggot, since it's your counter-argument.
Charles Powell
Obviously everyone agrees that the US army is the single most imperialist force in the world and should be destroyed as an institution, but it survives because it preys on groups of proles that often have no other options by design. It's not like the police where power hungry dickwads elect to join the force to live out their power tripping fantasies.
This is actually a pretty consistent pattern and not one solely evident in the US, which is why in many rebellions/uprisings in history the army defects before the cops do.
Cooper Miller
Is it okay to kill a person if I have two kids?
Elijah Jackson
I hope somebody bombs your fucking house but "it's okay" because they build you a shack to live in fifteen miles away. Fucking faggot, get the fuck off this board.
Nathaniel Smith
Oh so you're a homophobe now too. My only argument was that the army doesn't only kill.
Totally trustworthy sources! Also, you dropped your flag, here you go, you cunt.
Elijah Williams
That's not what I mean
People talked about hospitals, not the dead people from said bombings.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Julian Russell
your claim was they help people more than they murder them which, i dont know, i think that's pretty laughable on its face given any education in history or simple observance of the past 20 years
Jordan Campbell
I legitimately don't even know what point you're making anymore and I'm 60% sure you're just here to fuck with us.
Jordan Sanders
This had better be bait
Dylan Barnes
Sure showed me.
Tyler Bailey
That's a really slimey and disingenuous argument my dude.
Levi Turner
I was talking about natural disaster and the rebuilding of shit. You only think the army kills, which is false.
Then don't respond, easy.
How so? I'm against any kind of phobia.
Read better
Isaac Brown
most trans people are probably awkward/depressed autists who barely go outside at all.
Aiden Peterson
Yeah, does he think all the hospitals were empty? What the fuck?
Easton Howard
Fuck off, shill. Seriously, get out. Nobody is buying what you're selling, faggot.
Jaxson Mitchell
You talked about hospitals, not about casualties.
Hello Holla Forums
Grayson Sullivan
my dude you are backpeddling which is not very useful in a discussion in which you can look at previous statements. anyways i hope you have a great day and enjoy the boot polish
Jaxon Russell
If i was backpedaling I wouldn't keep going on
That's some backpedaling alright.
Nathaniel Kelly
This fucker is the same one responsible for
So I think his butt deserves a more severe blistering.
Jackson Hill
There's literally nothing bad about banning trans people from the military. In fact they should ban women too. And immigrants. And blacks. Everyone for that matter; the military should ban itself.
w e w
Cameron Flores
I agree completely!
And people from poor backgrounds. As people have mentioned in this thread, poor people sign up so they can get housing/ healthcare/ education. predatory af and a messed up system
Matthew Clark
If you live with an abusive father and mentally ill mother with violent outbursts a military desk job away from them seems pretty enticing
Brayden Wilson
you don't need to be part of an organization that slaughters people to get a job, bro
Dylan Cook
True I'm just saying that a lot of people see a job with benefits and a place to stay FAR away from them as a good way out. Personally I wouldn't because I know the military is a disgusting blood factory but your average burger doesn't think that way.
Juan Davis
The military is pretty much the only way to not drown in debt after college. If you want stupid proles with no combat skills then this a great thing for you, but you are serving porky's interest by dividing the worker and keeping them subservient to capitalism.
Kayden Miller
So all these people are out of a job in capitalism where they're discriminated against, and you're cheering that on like it's a victory for socialism?
It's really not. Sure it's more of the same shit.
But throwing a bunch of people who usually aren't employable because of lax discrimination laws in most states to the wolves just isn't a victory.
Even if you think it's funny. These people usually seek government jobs because the private sector just isn't willing to hire them. Without this, what, beat someone when they're already down? That doesn't seem right to me.
Nolan Kelly
Basically this We should oppose the discrimination and taking away of income for people who put in the work. Not defend the military
Jace Martinez
There are more government jobs than ones associated with bombing hospitals.
Kayden Price
kill yourself
Ryder Campbell
Honestly America is going to be as hot and inhospitable in 20 years anyways and dicks are pretty annoying and just get in the way.
Why not
Nathan Foster
I'm perfectly comfortable with my penis maybe you would not want to cut it off if you weren't taking estrogen totally necrotizing your penile tissue.
Noah Gomez
I'm not supporting the US military. I'm in fact, saying that what we should be doing is changing the situation so people don't find the military an attractive option because of its benefits.
And that requires we change a lot if we continue to discriminate. If we don't, perhaps there's less people actually working for the US government. I mean
The question isn't whether it's immoral or not but what exactly do we do from here
Landon Clark
Probably because it's small.
Jason Adams
oh shit, it necrotizes your dick? ive never heard such a thing. why must we pay for peepee removal then
Ian Nguyen
I mean that sounds like a good idea to because the US is going to suck shit within my lifetime. I'm not really afraid of dying much. I mean it's going to happen anyways.
And if you don't have a dick over 6 inches you're probably going to have an opinion your dick is probably a comfortable size. Not all of us have this. You're comfortable with your penis because it's small and you are afraid of death.
You sound like a pussy actually. Small penis coward.
Hunter Powell
Nah it doesn't. And most trans people don't even go through invasive surgery anyways and still have a dick after HRT, the idea HRT usually involves wholesale surgery is a pretty pervasive myth.
Adrian Morales
Why did you delete and repost your post I already responded to? That's pretty dumb
John Walker
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Charles Sullivan
So do you have any actual arguments or…?
Owen Bailey
The statement will likely result in an increase of transphobic act. Most activists who are for the right to indifference - the right to be treated exactly the same as other people - are upset.
Nathan Ramirez
Fascist program 101 Destroy all 'jobs' the only jobs are in military / security turn on your brothers and sisters ignore the ones pulling the strings at the top welcome to Chiraq
Christian Parker
I wouldn't expect a Holla Forumstard to have any arguments.
Austin Young
thats fine
Blake Allen
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Tyler Green
I think the historical record actually demonstrates that fascists create better economic outcomes than liberals unless they are liberal fascists like pinochet
Ryan Robinson
Seems nice.
Oliver Miller
I mean go ahead and join there's really nothing stopping you.
Chase Foster
OP you are dead right. It reminds me of the whole fag marriage thing.
Im sure a lot of it was spearheaded by homophobes who simply want fags to be trapped and miserable like everyone who is married.
Jaxon Jackson
I'm not trans and I support Israel less than you do, next "argument" please
Hudson Cox
We have like, four? Five mods?
Adrian Jenkins
I gotta say with a force that powerful that's pretty based. I gotta hand it to the Jews for this.