Friendly reminder that the scientific world is being sodomized by the invisible hand of the market just as much as the...

Friendly reminder that the scientific world is being sodomized by the invisible hand of the market just as much as the rest of society.

"Reproducibility in science is not very sexy. Because our scientific culture generally rewards innovation over cautiousness, replicating a study conducted by others will not get a researcher a publication in a high-end journal, a splashy headline in a newspaper, or a large funding grant from the government. Only an estimated 0.15% of all published results are direct replications of previous studies."

sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/reproduce-or-bust-bringing-reproducibility-back-to-center-stage/

"There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

"Clinical trial data on new drugs is systematically withheld from doctors and patients, bringing into question many of the premises of the pharmaceutical industry—and the medicine we use"

scientificamerican.com/article/trial-sans-error-how-pharma-funded-research-cherry-picks-positive-results/

"The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue."

thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(15)60696-1.pdf

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.”

nybooks.com/articles/2009/01/15/drug-companies-doctorsa-story-of-corruption/

"I can't tell you exactly what percentage of the trials are flawed, but I think the problem is far bigger than you imagine, and getting worse…it is so easy to manipulate data, conceal it or fabricate it…there is almost a code of silence not to speak about it."

www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/spiegel-interview-with-whistleblower-doctor-peter-wilmshurst-a-1052159.html

"More than 70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments, and more than half have failed to reproduce their own experiments. Those are some of the telling figures that emerged from Nature's survey of 1,576 researchers who took a brief online questionnaire on reproducibility in research."

nature.com/news/1-500-scientists-lift-the-lid-on-reproducibility-1.19970?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

"Hayes was first hired in 1997 by a company, which later became agribusiness giant Syngenta, to study their product, atrazine, a pesticide that is applied to more than half the corn crops in the United States, and widely used on golf courses and Christmas tree farms. When Hayes found results Syngenta did not expect — that atrazine causes sexual abnormalities in frogs, and could cause the same problems for humans — it refused to allow him to publish his findings."

democracynow.org/2014/2/21/silencing_the_scientist_tyrone_hayes_on

"Back in the 1960s, a sugar industry executive wrote fat checks to a group of Harvard researchers so that they’d downplay the links between sugar and heart disease in a prominent medical journal—and the researchers did it, according to historical documents reported in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. One of those Harvard researchers went on to become the head of nutrition at the United States Department of Agriculture, where he set the stage for the federal government’s current dietary guidelines. All in all, the corrupted researchers and skewed scientific literature successfully helped draw attention away from the health risks of sweets and shift the blame solely to fats—for nearly five decades. The low-fat, high-sugar diets that health experts subsequently encouraged are now seen as a main driver of the current obesity epidemic."

arstechnica.com/science/2016/09/sugar-industry-bought-off-scientists-skewed-dietary-guidelines-for-decades/

"When a new drug gets tested, the results of the trials should be published for the rest of the medical world – except much of the time, negative or inconclusive findings go unreported, leaving doctors and researchers in the dark."

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christ, Capitalism can't collapse any sooner

Bumping this thread because it's more important than almost anything else on this shit-filled catalog.

Capitalism is pro-science they said.

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Fucking truth OP. I' see all this shit first hand. Capitalism poisons medicine

Mind telling us the story?

Don't forget that a huge portion of research funds for universities comes from the military, spy agencies, weapons manufacturers, and so on. We massively neglect research on the things we need to survive, and instead blow billions on researching the latest bomb or spying device.

Science under capitalism is definitely gonna kill us all, soon.
Science after capitalism is probably gonna kill us all, eventually.

No particular story I just do biomedical research. I see the way the system pressures people, the slew of drug trials redacted because of fudged data, the constant questioning of others results, wondering if they were fabricated. There's like a solid 3rd of researchers in my field who's paper I don't even bother with because u know off the bag they're horseshit

It really varies depending on the field, but OP is extremely correct.

It's the natural conclusion of the more general capitalist takeover of all western societies. Pure research positions barely exist any more, the career path seems to lead directly to pharmaceutical firms, silicon valley, or security agencies if you're involved in STEM and brilliant. Otherwise, it's off to stuff test tubes and run electronics for minimum wage

What's funny is it fucks the corps over too. 40% of phase III trials reveal a drug doesn't actually do what the smaller studies promised. Pharma spends billions every year chasing dead ends that are caused by the high false positive rate.

At least there's still science under capitalism. In communism there would be no incentive to innovate.

As OP clearly noted, it's not science it activity that looks like science but isn't really anything. Just noise. Inefficiencies like that would not exist under socialism.

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You are about half a gommunist, whether you like it or not.

Also daily reminder that the USSR actually had much better computers than the US at first but do to issues with the bureaucracy never actually attempted to develop the technology further nor implement it to help socialism. It's basically the only thing I will ever admit they flat out did wrong.

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Lysenkoism?

I've had a creeping suspicion of this for a while, thanks for the sources that confirm it OP.

/leftypol please

What you don't like being able to buy a marginally "better" smartphone every year (and the being forced to buy one every two or three years regardless due to planned obsolescence)?

my dude, do you have any idea how often i've seen this unironically spouted

If Papa Tesla got his way, the entire world could potentially have access to abundant electricity, essentially laying down basic infrastructure for billions of people. Instead he faded into obscurity and died alone.


That's like saying there would be no music or art under communism.

Here take this for your shitty bait

Yes and this was obviously posted as a joke/troll referencing that. If our demographics weren't 99.5% newfags and reddit immigrants one would know this

Tesla was a meme salesman like Elon Musk. He made up all sorts of absurd unscientific claims near the end of his career. All of them turned out to be false.

Okay the Wardenclyffe thing was a little far-fetched but it was still worth pursuing.

You can't blame him for becoming senile.

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new vegas was objectively better

Not a very important field for humanity, but this shit happens in archaeology too.

Bumping with this relevant video
youtube.com/watch?v=LIlBsfTx3Kc

Why do science when you can just do BIG DATA?

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Quick question from a non-scientist: I'd always assumed that reproduction was part of the peer-review process during journal submission in scientific fields where bench experiments are important, what on earth is so wrong that a reproducibility crisis is even possible?

Realistically, science can do just fine in a capitalist system, but we need to get rid of the way scientific journals are dealt with now. Journals charge money to acquire articles from (making research difficult if your institution doesn't have a subscription to said journals, which are numerous). They also often charge money to submit an article. Effectively, we are being double dipped, all because peer review costs money.

Academics have to publish, but this isn't a problem imposed by capitalism. Academia has an obligation to defend its credibility, and this should be constant regardless of the economic system. However, this does not mean that we have to accept that our own work has to be managed by private organizations that don't have our best interests at heart. We are their workers, their clients, and their customers, and they don't need expensive capital to run, unlike many other businesses. If we could find a way to do a sort of peer review time share system, and distribute our articles from our own university servers, we would have no need for journals at all.

That all said, I'm talking about problems universal among academics, and not with specific fields, such as pharmacology. These may need different solutions entirely.

Depending on the field of study in question, reproducibility can be incredibly difficult. It is not at all part of the peer review process.

Not at all, there are tons of papers where they can't even tell you the details because Trade Secrets™

scientific journals are organized crime in white gloves. t. phd student.

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