What's your opinion on egocentric billionaires acting like 'modern day prophets'...

What's your opinion on egocentric billionaires acting like 'modern day prophets'? Would they be spared in the next Year Zero?

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If you are an expert in making money you are an expert in everything. Obviously Musk knows a lot about AI and we should listen to his expert advice.

Friendly reminder that this motherfucker is such a benevolent guy that he won't let his workers unionize.

die.

What are working conditions like in his firms?

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Pretty shit. He runs his billion dollar businesses like they're a start-up operating out of a garage. He expects his employees to work absurd hours and come in on the weekends.

no, they literally have zero skill, value, or merit in their alleged fields.
gates, jobs, and the owner of mcdonalds both profited off of other people's inventions, think about how many other billionaires you know of that did the same thing.

They would be spared only so that time was made available to develop a punishment sphere.

The incurable are shot. It would be wasteful to merely shoot the insufferable.

So basically he is Steve Jobs 2.0

Pol Pot would probably have you killed for being more than high-school educated
There's no need to kill them (or in fact, kill *anyone*). Just nationalise their company, and eventually, make it ruled directly by workers through internal elections.

If Musk is so intelligent, the workers would surely elect him as "CEO" and he will be able to keep living his dream.

of course not lol


12-hour days

Steve Jobs at least took a symbolic 1$ salary during Apple's hard times and didn't boast of "I work 80h/week and so should you !"


Pretty edgy for a socdem.


Telsa has the highest, by far, number of work accidents and injuries of all car manufacturers of the US.
SpaceX's policy with engineers and cadres is literally to suck them off with impossible work hours until they break and go find work elsewhere. As a result, they have an incredibly high turnout rate - which is, by the way, completely retarded even from a pragmatic capitalistic standpoint.

We'll do the same to them as everybody else who makes over 100k a year.

Not everyone who earns that much is petit-bourg

Not everyone who earns less that that isn't petit-bourg.

You've never absorbed any theory, have you?

this is your brain on BLM
don't be like this Holla Forums

dude killing people lmao

Some people would need to be killed, though. I don't think Musk is going to make it that far in the future, and of course, neither are we.

This board has some serious murder fantasies problem.
Why would you need to kill anyone when you can simply collectivise their business ?
If somebody violently threatens the revolution, then yes, they might need to be jailed, but why kill somebody for the vice of being rich ? They are simply part of the system, just like the working class is.

Because they are a potential source of counter-revolution, however few they are. The same thing with their family members. These people should be put to trial and taken away from society. Of course, that will likely mean killing them in the long run. Just as we cannot let monarchs live in a republic, so too we must eliminate the bourgeoisie in a worker's world.

This is how Soviet Russia, the PRC, and many other "socialist" nations operated.
If your ideology can't handle dissent it doesn't deserve support.

Yeah, and they seem to have lasted longer than those that didn't.

This is how we handle dissent. Or do you decry the French revolution?

Because they're insufferable and a revolution provides an excuse to get rid of them without legal consequences.

Keyword is "longer". Your de-generated worker's state would just suffer a longer agony.

First of all, the revolutionaries were almost all bourgeois themselves. And yes, the rule of Terror was a mistake - which promptly came to an halt - not to mention the terribly waste of the Vendean campaign, and the archaeological damages.
Democracy is vital to fight corruption and incompetence, the two main plagues on so-called socialist nations.

So your grounds for murder is not that they exploit workers, that they destroy the earth, or that they enable imperialism, but that they are insufferable, or are you just being concise ?

They became degenerated workers states for reasons other than killing porky. Or will killing porky taint the revolution with some kind of original sin?

Yes, as it was a step toward bourgeois democracy against simply monarchy. I don't know about you, but that looks like a step forward.

There is nothing stopping democratically elected governments, even socialist ones, from executing those that have committed crimes in the past, those of tyranny, which the bourgeoisie are certainly guilty of. We need not put all of them to death, only enough to quell any thoughts about revolt.

Are exploitation, degradation of the environment, and imperialism not "insufferable"? You shall not suffer a porky to live.

He's being concise. Elon Musk is trying to prevent SpaceX from unionizing right now. Most porkies have the sense to shut the fuck up and engage in porkery quietly, rather than masturbate to themselves in public.

Get out of your basement

Pussy ass bitch

He founded OpenAI ya goof.


Musk has a BS in both physics and economics and personally works on Tesla designs.


He also has a $1 annual salary.


Fuck you guys. Musk-sempai is bringing us to Mars and you can't stop him.

It´s official. Technofags are the worst posters on this board.

Elongated Muskrat is the worst type bourgie.
Stupid liberals will celebrate him like he's the son of Steve Jobs and the Virgin Mary. I hope he dies trying to upload his consciousness onto mars.

hahahah

As far as capitalists go, Musk at least is pushing technologies that matter for the future. People just seem to irrationally hate him more because he's also a public figure. I'm sure that any randomly chosen corporate goon is far worse than him, like those nestle or bechtel motherfuckers privatizing water and sheit.

None of what he did is profitable, reliable, or its own work.
SpaceX directly stems from decades of publicly funded research.
Telsa is unprofitable.
SolarCity is beaten regularly by coops.
The Boring Company is a meme.
Hyperloop is a pipe dream.
OpenAI/Neuralink are subject on which he knows literally nothing about.

Capped

That sets your political culture lower than rethuglican primaries

Murder fantasies are a mental disorder

Show it in the DSM-5/ICD-10 or fuck off :^)

Sure :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

I'm actively disappointed that you took such a lazy and uncreative approach. You even cited wikipedia instead of going hunting properly in the real document.

It's not even a particularly good fit. There is no long term pattern of action. It doesn't even work as a serious reply. I gave you a great set up to go and dig up some obscure categorisation and you've blown it. Get off the stage.

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Ignore these and get back on thread guys come on this could be good.
They're fucking terrible and annoying. I wouldn't be surprised if they turned full reactionary.

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>Do we need to augment and join with machines to avoid becoming obsolete with the eventual advent of AGI? Yes
>These things are all bringing forth post-scarcity super-abundant fully-automated space gay orgies, regardless of political economy.

No. Better organization of mass transit, urban planning and distribution of goods takes care of this.
No. We don't need large scale human transport by planes at all in this age of instant communication. Trains and ships are plenty fast for tourism, and business travel will mostly go away under communism, seeing as how the current kind of people who travel for business are mostly parasites. All that's left is a few planes to shuttle vital personnel and time-sensitive cargo.
The idea of man becoming obsolete is the worst kind of reactionary thinking. Obsolete to whom? To other people? How can a thing be obsolete to itself, did the hammer ever become obsolete to other hammers? It's an absurdity. Only if you view [a class of] people as tools for the advancement of [another class of] people can you think like this.
People are not means, and obsolescence doesn't apply to them.
Post humanism is worse than an ideology, it is an anti-human heresy.

There's a reason why he talks with such confidence of the future. He's basically the PR guy for the real global elite.

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kys

Elon, go home, you are drunk

I'm sure this fuckhead totally cares about people and won't use the regular folks as fuel for his spaceship when he gets far away from earth

This board doesn't actually do anything, so the only response to the existence of these people is mental mastrubation.

the retard is strong in this one

ayyeee shoot them

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That is *not* what I said, I left "communism" out for a reason. Whether the post-scarcity space gay orgies will be for porky only or communist or something else is separate to the creation of the technologies. These porkies are bringing the technologies for post-scarcity, and IT IS happening REGARDLESS of the political-economic ideologies of the people working on them and promoting them. Then we have but to seize them.

This creation of post-scarcity material conditions is certainly prime ground for revolution; was that not what happened with the industrial revolution and the rise of communism in the first place? Was the failure of various socialist experiments not partly due to lack of technological sophistication? Is capitalism not considered a necessary historical stage to build industrial civilization, the material precondition to build communism??


I know AGI is controversial but I do believe it will be achieved. It might take a thousand years or three thousand or just a few decades, but I do think it will be achieved. Machine intelligences might see our biological existence as wasteful of resources they could put to better use (for their own purposes). And if an AGI is truly human-level or superior, using them exclusively as tools in our service is basically being porkies to them.

Regarding post-scarcity and automation: you make good points, but I assume that the gradual rise of these techs will lead to a mutation of capitalism into a post-capitalist situation that workings of which we cannot entirely foresee, but which does not presuppose communism or the end of exploitation. Its hard to argue about these hypotheticals.

Not if we program them not to. And even if they did see things that way, they must have been given some extreme Utilitarian moral premise that enabled them to come to that conclusion.
Also Asimov's three laws and so on.

It depends. I see no reason why AGI can't be built without the capacity for emotion or subjective experience. It would be a hinderance to my refrigerator's usefulness to me if it one day decided that it would rather be in New York trying to make it big on Broadway.

What he's doing is part of The Greater Game. NASA was deliberately defunded in the 80s to allow a company like Space X to eventually take over.
Infinite conciousness and life is their aim. Basically they want to become God. It's quite a big deal.