What happened?

What happened?
6 months ago the quality of our threads were always well thought out and mostly due to theory.
I get we've had recent waves of migration and the recent Sargon debate stirred up e-celeb drama/threads but there's so many obvious Holla Forums, liberal and r/soc bait threads that it's beyond ridiculous when I see so many people not saging + reporting.
We need to make Saging great again and stop this decreasing quality of thread before we become another Holla Forums or Reddit infestation.

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all this stupid whining about board quality. This is an imageboard, not a book club.

this.

More people means more shitposting. It's really not hard to understand.

Okay

Imageboards have as much worth as you're willing to give them. I'd rather this one have a significant amount.

Some imageboards still manage to maintain a good board quality, /kind/ being the first example that I can think of. I agree far more with ; we simply have hundreds of shills to shake off.

I stopped coming about six months ago but now I'm back. The board quality will reach all new lows now that I'm here again.

I never sage anything, unless it's seasoning for a meal.

Keep in mind we have a lot of lolbert fags from Sargon's channel shitposting r n

Normally I'd just let this thread die, but I've noticed such a gigantic influx of newfags saying "WHAT ABOUT DA GOOD DAYS HUH???" that I think someone has to dispel the myth.

The 'golden period' a couple months ago was from the fact that a few good debates spawned quality threads with actual content. Just begging people to make a bookclub or theory thread without throwing them a bone is going to get you a dead thread with maybe four autists consistently posting. The biggest theory threads in the last six months, those being the Communalism v Communism, Empirical Marxism and cybernetics threads, were all spawned from having unexplored ground to explore, points to discuss that hadn't been done to the death before, and debates from beforehand that went unresolved.

Anonymous boards tend to go in cycles, especially Holla Forums. Occasionally a janitor from early Holla Forums will come and back me up on this, too, so I'm not bullshitting you. Until around maybe 400 members, the board cycle was redditards trying to fight the 'brocialists', Holla Forumsesmokers assuming that because we didn't want them posting here we must be ripe for le redpilling, and a small grace period in the middle. This kind of shit (though not with the specific demographic) happened with other imageboards and summerfags, so it's not something unique to this board. Things will swing back to quality eventually, it'll attract some people from it, and then they'll go back to crying about how there's no ebin OC.

What you are doing here is being a cancerfag, much like the influx of cancerfags on 4chan post 2009. You, instead of creating quality content, are going "GAIZ WHAT HAPPEN PLZ SPOONFEED ME SOMETHING I LIKE!". This is the kind of garbage that swamps down imageboards and makes them better off dead, when it reaches critical mass of more beggars than people who can genuinely contribute.

This has kinda been said above, but anyway.

You see, there's this issue I realized a while ago about more "serious" forums and boards with a specific subject. Most of the deeper discussion happens at some not-so-early point, when there're enough of smart people. But unfortunately, there comes a point when there's simply fewer new things to discuss; the conclusions reached before become common knowledge, and seeing them repeated again is annoying to older members.

Which is not to say that we exhausted any given topic, far from it. It's just that, since there's less stuff to discuss about them, the deeper discussion threads inevitably become more sparse.

I remember repeatedly arguing with the xjnr-something-something-something Stalintrip and the deep-cover ancap using the annil flag while using the cat flag to try to rehabilitate anarchism's image. People thought anarchists were all capitalists. Uh?
Things were definitely better in general back then because, while you did have uneducated spergy fags like I mentioned above, you also regularly had novel threads like Eco-Stalinism (someone tried to start it up again a week ago and it died, RIP) and lengthy discussions of books just popping up at random and memes better than the ones right now (they're either not made anymore or especially cringy, Sassy Socialist Memes-tier sometimes).

This.
Hence why I've repeatedly called for a mechanism of voting on a topic, giving out basic reading materials so that it isn't "redpill me on x" for the entire thread, and then creating a thread for higher discussion of it, after which it is archived and linked to with others like it in a pinned post at the top of the catalog. I don't trust the mods here (well, BO at least) to be able to handle it objectively at this point, though.

See, now, people thought this before I made the Soviet Cybernetics thread. Think outside of the box. I first learned about Cockshott by autistically flitting through Wikipedia's pages on socialism. I can dredge up more material just that way if you want, and there's still more material that I can find in other areas. Most places don't have as many sources in one place as Wikipedia, but most link to at least some. We have lifetimes worth of material to discuss if people here make the effort and read. A couple months ago, I tried to get a discussion going on Kotz's paper "Socialism And Innovation" (a great work in its own right just for seriously addressing what it does), but then I had a lot of work and couldn't get a reply out to some of the good posts there before it disappeared from the catalog.

I tried to but nobody ever replies to my posts so I just come here for the anime girls.

Not an excuse to shit up the board with retardation

I've been on imageboards for almost a decade now and every 6 months there's some fag who says 6 months ago the board was beautiful and not it turned to shit. Then someone like me points this out and some other fag comes saying that this time it's true.

I mean i guess i should give you credit for not bitching about summerfags, but still.

That reminds me, we should really try to get an archive going. The one from Holla Forums itself is fucked (gg, Crybones), and Archive.is doesn't save precious images.

Hosting is dead cheap these days, we could get one for a few bucks. The most complicated part would be the software. That fancy Foolfuuka/Asagi combo that most cuckchan archives use only work out-of-the-box with cuckchan itself. But I'm afraid I know zero web devving.

Any ideas?

That only comes just before the flush.

kek

There are tons of boards and places to discuss theory on the internet while there are basically none to support leftist memery. If you want ultra serious discussion at all times then by all means post somewhere else. So basically what said

We've had threads like this since the board was created. It's always been "bad".

it's always felt like this, though i agree it should be improved. we need more theory threads. even celeb shitposts that we'll moderately allow need to be supplemented with actual theory.