Why not kill directly all the porky? Direct terrorism with popular power towards the leadership of capital and banks?

Why not kill directly all the porky? Direct terrorism with popular power towards the leadership of capital and banks?

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Because if you use violence you become just like them

Tbh I wondered what the result would be of a leftist revolutionary group that, instead of trying to engage in general revolution activity, they focused targeted assassinations of prominent porkies.

Because despite the academically interesting effects it would have on the cost-benefit-analysis of becoming a high ranking banker or porky, you would only be killing men instead of the system as a whole.

The problem with banking for example was never bankers, it wasn't even banks (which can also "die" by collapsing), it's the institutional structure of banking itself. The problem is that killing bankers is really easy: How do you kill banking structures, which were never alive and thus do not fear death?

Because the bourgeoisie is merely capital personified. Capital can perfectly reproduce itself and levy value relations from it and doom society to its whims.

What ultimately needs to be attacked is capital, not capitalists, or else the mode of production (not mode of management!) would be known as capitalistism.

Because the situation isn't at critical mess yet. Going on a murder spree now - if it were even possible for yer' retarded ass to wield a weapon - would end up with you being shot dead before you can even do any actual damage. At most you'd probably kill a bank clerk or something retarded like that. Like the other anons mentioned, killing porkie won't do shit if the system itself is still in place as they will simply reproduce. The only time it might matter is when you actually have the army on your side for a full-out revolution, ala Romania in '89 but in reverse.

Because antifa IS porky and porky's children.

antifa is class collaboration

If you kill your enemies they win.

fuck off

Personalizing capitalism is poor theory and leads to poor praxis. It's a misunderstanding of how capitalism works and doomed to failure.

If you believe killing specific Porkies would bring down capitalism and usher in socialism, then you're not really that much different from Holla Forumstards who think going day-of-the-rope on the Rotschilds would solve the social and economic problems we're faced with today.

"Popular power" is kinda vague, but a lot of terrorism is removed from the masses. Read Lenin.

Better yet : strategic sabotage of the means of production.

Straight out expropriating Porky's resources and redistributing them among the needy.

Easier to hit on some white trash with a red hat and claim "Nazis Bashed!!!"
Also it may impact their trust fund. Gonna need that rent to smash capitalism.

Nice flag

Anti-capitalists are the real capitalists

GREAT phrase user! you been catching up on your hypnopaedia or something? here, have a gram of soma.

Please elaborate.

people have riotted and tried to kill porky. it doesn't work because porky has police forces and reactionaries

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This.

Because it doesn't break the system, retard. It just gets helicopters full of cops involved. When have you ever read a revolutionary theory that said "Oh, just go at 'em with a sniper rifle and it'll totally bring on FALC"?

I really thought FBI bait would be better than this.

That's literally what the revolution is supposed to do.

because ideology

Would probably need media backing to publish explanations of the murders grounded in theory. If not, it'd just be victim of liberal faggots going whining about violence or right wing butthurt crybabies. You know, the way antifa is portrayed now.

It would be very entertaining, though…

you know fucking nothing about antifa

This.

Because capitalism is a system, not a group of people. Even if you kill all the porky new porkies will arise because that's how the system works.

I dunno, I think it would have beneficial political outcomes because it would throw up in everyone's faces the question "Do you really care that these parasites died?", it would throw into the open the capitalist system that the porkies try to obscure.

Yeah, good luck with that.

It's been tried, ask the white Russians.

Capitalism isn't the result of individual actors and as such killing individual people wont make the difference but it might help in conjunction with some other measures being taken at the same time.

because it doesn't work.
Lenin's brother tried that and he learned the hard way.

use dynamite you can hunt the smaller one,then the bigs one it's like fishing.

You do that. Keep us updated.

Because people here are not true commies.

leftcoms need to shut the fuck up every contribution to every discussion is shit

Well, to support OP's thesis, we could hypothesize, if you kill everyone that believes in banking, then there's no real way to effectively enforce it. So yes, you have killed banking. Especially if you convince all the people left that it was the right thing to do.

heh. at least they know what it's like to live in America now. Our cops look like this on a normal day now lol

sounds about right

The massacre of the bourgeoisie, while deserving, would lead to a powergap quickly filled by the rest of the bourgeoisie. Their property would just get divvied up amongst their family members, your movement killed, and violent destruction of leftist movements would be instated.

If you are not able to fill the powergap you create, you cannot change the system into what you want.

hi fbi

Back to >>>/reddit/ libshit.

nice try CIA

It's not about the individual people. It's about the system. Actually it's a similar situation with the war on terror(TM). You can kill as many of them as you want, but if the system stays in place someone else will fill the power vacuum.

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Backlash from an average Joe who is fed the 'no violence is justified' bs.

Left wing movement has to rely on the broad support of the populace - you do not win it with acts like this. You need to condition the masses towards violent revolutionary movement. That's why it can only happen in times of great hardship such as the Great War#.

That would be a lot more logical than ruining the communities around you which you have to live in. Although this OP is likely a honeypot

OP you forget that people have become pussies. Nobody has the balls to take action anymore. I applaud every hero who tries.

It was tried in the 19th/early 20th century. They got a US President (McKinley), a Russian Tsar, Hitler's ambassador to France. Didn't do much good. Huge backlash against the left. Ditto with RAF/Red Brigades/JRA in the 70s. These days the elite have much better security, people don't get close. That's why today's angry kids target random civilians instead.

There's been semi-successful armed guerrilla movements in the last 40 years - the Zapatistas, the Sandinistas, the Bougainville Resistance Army, MEND, SPLA, OPM, RPF, KLA, the Chechens. Maybe study these cases instead.

Porky is a spook. You can't kill spooks.

Not an argument

That's my problem with assassination politics especially when they're tied to the mindset of "eliminating parasites". This can be so easily co-opted by reactionaries, it's really shooting ourselves in the foot.

Who's the shooter in this video?
Antifa or golden dawn?