What does Holla Forums think of the fat acceptance movement?

What does Holla Forums think of the fat acceptance movement?

I don't know.
I hate SJW's but I'm a chubby chaser too.

Idpol bullshit. Being fat is unhealthy and a drain to the revolution. If you're born fat you have a medical problem which must be solved asap.

I support it, USA might be a shit country, but that's not a reason to see its citizens as worse than people from other countries.

I hate it, but I hate the fact many of them have gone through enough to feel that it should be a movement in the first place as well.

IMO we would be spared so much SJW idiocy if only people were … nicer and more polite to each other. pls no bully

Disgusting.

Oh user, I wish…

American shit. Trash

The Spectacle, and not a fun one at that

I don't hate fat people, I hate people who are delusional in thinking that they are somehow better off being fat. I wouldn't advocate fat acceptance movement but I also don't care enough to get too upset about their existance, there are bigger fish to fry (no pun intended).

It should be recognized that a lot of bad eating habits come from depression and other mental issues. It's not only a matter of choice.

But it shouldn't be encouraged. And the whole fat proud thing is fucking stupid. You can't always help being fat, but it isn't something you should be proud of either.

I'm against bullying.

Peak bourgeois decadence.

If "fat acceptance" means opposing bullying and not compelling people to adhere to whatever beauty standards are in vogue at the moment, it's okay I guess — though I don't think it's going to achieve much in way of changing people's attitude.

If "fat acceptance" means lying to fat people by telling them how it's perfectly fine to be fat while knowing it's bad for their health, then it's trash. Of course they shouldn't be forced to diet or exercise, but there are ways of improving your health that doesn't involve starving yourself into the clone of a K-pop model.

You can believe obesity is an health problem without hating on the fatties.

Being fat is unattractive, not to mention decadent and indicative of greed.

Fatties are disgusting and should all be gulag'd

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Hmm but don't you think fatties are more attractive when they are a bit insecure?

We're not going to consider the readmission of the burgers to the human race until they slim down.

I think it's being secretly funded by the corn/sugar/fast food industries.

fatties are fat. need to stop eating the iced cream.

I'm all in favour of it.

A lot of people misunderstand it thinking that it means that fat people are trying to rationalize the fact that they're fat by claiming it's actually healthy, which some of them do but they're really a minority which nobody pays attention to.

In reality fat acceptance is simply about not bullying people because they're fat, and if they wanted to eventually lose weight, treating them like shit for being fat isn't going to encourage them to do so. Same way abusing an alcoholic isn't going to encourage him to sober up.

I condone it wholeheartedly. The +sized struggle parallels the struggle of the proletariat against the bourgeoisie uncannily. Just as people should not be judged for the wealth they were born with, they should not be judged for the size they were born into. Neither can change and neither are indicative of inferiority or superiority.

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There is a world of difference between tolerating something and accepting it.

It is true that bullying is hypocritical and unproductive, but people don't really believe otherwise. They're just sociopaths, the kind of people that become lolberts for no other reason than because it makes them feel uncomfortable to do anything that benefits others, even to their own mutual benefit.

It's anti-revolutionary

There's a large group of people like in pic related who still actually believe that shaming people for being fat is actually a positive influence on them. And while to me and you it might clearly just be an excuse to bully fat people, there are plenty of people like Milo who are still spreading this idea that shaming people for being fat is actually the "right" thing to do.

Again, deep down, they don't really believe it. Cultural conservative politics have always been little more than a convoluted rationalization for antisocial behavior, and this is no exception. They are weak minded betas that think inhumanity will make them stronger.

But challenging the ideological justification for their actions helps expose their actual Sociopathic motives.

Actually no.
I feel that where I am, fatties dress to hide themselves somehow. I was in Latvia once, and I was positively surprised to see all women, including fat and old, dressed like real women.

Beating the shit out of them is more fun, though. They can't respond to it without looking like idiots because they are essentially challenging people to do it to begin with by calling them cowards.

When Crowder and Richard Spencer got socked on camera, no one had a lick of sympathy for them.

Staying fat on purpose is UNHEALTHY.
And no nothing can debunk this.

It's cancer. Now fuck off, Holla Forums.

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It's a Cultural-Capitalist movement, made for people to consume more.

what does that mean?

Being fat is extremely unhealthy. They are being poisened by Porky's sugar Pill of course but they should have seen through it at some point.

Leftist cancer

Fat people deserve bullying. Are you going to cry when someone beats a pedophiles to death too? You muh privileged middle class lefties make me sick.

I don't fucking care tbh

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Fuck off, liberal. Go back to reddit.

Yes? Fat people are literal child murderers. You ever wonder why so many third world people can't eat? Well I don't have a problem with that anyway but if I did then I would be pissed.

Fatties must accept the fact that they eat too much garbage sold as food.

This board is pro-MAP rights, fascist

Because capitalism is shit at allocated resources?

If Cletus in America didn't drink 10 litres of coke and 6 big macs a day this doesn't mean a child in Africa would get those things, it means they would go in the trash.

If by fat acceptance we mean not bullying fat people and letting them feel like human beings, then I'm all for it
Those who claim that being fat = being healthy are retarded though
t. fatass

I genuinely hope Milo kills himself

Once again Holla Forums reveals the full extent of their ignorance when it comes to the way capitalism works.

There's a book called the Fat Studies Reader. It's a collection of essays about medical studies, media stereotypes, just personal stories, everything. If you want to read good shit, read that book. If you want to read the most cringey stuff that's ideal fuel for making a vid loling at SJWs, you can just read the same book, as I found the quality very uneven.

I am absolutely certain that fat people are discriminated against in a thousand different ways (when haggling over prices, the other party just assumes that a fatso will pay anything, for instance). I also believe that being super fat is rather unhealthy (duh), and that the people in denial about that are somewhat of a fringe phenomenon that gets more attention because of the entertainment value. There are people out there with a rather sadistic streak in their personality, who just need some excuse to lash out against people, and it's convenient to have some stereotype of undesirable default-guilty people like the irresponsible childish fatso or the womyn-punching Berniebro sexist.

I do think that in socialist society it should be standard that ultra-fat people who literally take up two seats on a plane or whatever don't have to pay extra for that. Fight me.

Mandatory fat camp in siberia with daily rations of 1500 kcal and hard labour until they are reeducated and can reenter society.

He's just a dumb opinion factory that gets upboats and clicks

I want communism to give me more free time and make the people around me better, because any communism that is not based around achieving mankinds wasted potential is fucking pointless. Ergo, if we still have a bunch of megafatties running around under communism we have failed.

We shouldn't harass people for being overweight but we certainly shouldn't make it a symbol of beauty or promote it in any way.

Im fat but i hate fats

Obesity is a symptom of capitalism. These fatties who eat food loaded with sugar and fats do so because they've never been shown an alternative. Home-cooked food is so good and under communism people would have more time to cook for themselves. They'd finally realize how bad the unhealthy shit they consume actually is. Shit's disgusting.

the fat acceptance movement is a liberal reaction to the capitalist commodification of skinny people's bodies. as marxists we understand this reaction to be natural but misguided. we should see it as an opportunity to critique the way capitalism makes even our bodies into products.

i'd tap that. post more pics op.

I felt disgusting and lethargic at 180 pounds, I can't imagine how horrible being burger-tier actually is.

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It might have started as a legit thing against bullying and discrimination but the last time I checked it had become an attempt at forcing the notion that "fat is beautiful" and you should be "proud to be fat" and the only reason people don't see how fat is beautiful is just because they have been conditioned all their lives to think being fat is something bad. Basically the usual SJW crap that every fucking thing that exists is just a social construct.

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Concepts such as 'health' are socially constructed and the left should strive to deconstruct them as to embrace and accept difference and individuality.

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The fat acceptance movement was commodified straight out of the box. See dove soap ads for example. Beyond selling an unrealisable image of beauty, the beauty industry expanded its market by linking the product directly to consumers self esteem and self image. Now, the product represents social progress. The consumers consume the product 'for themselves' and not to 'look attractive to others'. If you pay attention, this is just a more invasive development of previous marketing strategies.

I think it's pretty stupid but it's also idpol. You shouldn't want to be unhealthy. It'd be like a cancer acceptance movement where people don't give a shit.

literally peak idpol.

As a result of the profit motive food companies lobby the legalization of addictive and mind-altering substances (like chemicals and sugar) so people eat their food faster and as a result buy it in larger amounts more often. Then these people, for the sole purpose of status and space to put their shit mind you, buy large houses far away from everything, cars in which they sit in to get everywhere needed, and buy bullshit diet programs to magically lose weight quickly whilst eating addictive and high-calorie food.

So, I find (most) fat people to be at least somewhat victims of capitalism. This isn't early-stage capitalist Europe where Porky is the only fatty. To make more money Porky fucks with food for the soul purpose of making them fat as well

Fat people are unhealthy. They shouldn't be bullied, they should be given psychological therapy and nutritional advice and exercise trainers, certainly not "accepted". If they don't get fit to reasonable parameters then it's on to the Siberian forced labor camps.


Obesity would be eradicated as there would be no capitalist edible-trash and capitalist alienation and capitalist marketing producing r9k brain damage and capitalist suburbs you fool.


This. Fucking porkies commodify everything.


A lot of people underestimate the effects of the burger sedentary life that is embedded in the architecture of the city itself. Old cities grew organically and human by necessity, but most burger and newer cities grow insanely fast by industrial multiplication of porky powers of depravity; newer urban growths are the material embodiment of capitalist exploitation and force people into alienating, inefficient and unhealthy patterns of living, and dismantling them will be a long and hard but necessary process.

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Then why are you talking about solving that by therapy, which seeks to find the problem within the individual? You contradict yourself. Socialism won't fundamentally alter the structure of cities in a week, so I don't see how fat people will magically disappear lol is a wise position, and it doesn't become one by calling others fools.

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Individuals don't exist in a vacuum. Much of liberal thought sees freedom as a form of total isolation. the individual is totally free only because he is totally alone.

This is bullshit. Plenty of people wrote essays about non violence and protecting free speech.

knowing Holla Forums, he's a mongrel

Can we get a slighty-chubby-but-not-obese acceptance movement going? Girls with little pooch bellies you can poke and squeeze are top-tier.

I hate fatties as much as anyone, but please tell me you're either a gril, or underageb&.

Holy shit you're beyond a fool.

Just because the effect of the city exists doesn't contradict my previous statements, because it is just a factor among many. It is obviously possible to remain fit in a shit suburb eating tons of trash food if one applies a disciplined exercise regime; it is simply much harder than being acceptably fit by eating decent food and moderately active life by default from living in a proper city like in EU. Still people with mental health and eating disorders need therapy regardless of where they live. I never said that socialism would alter cities in a week and fat people would magically disappear, that's fucking retarded.

eternal manlet reporting in.

we must stand etc etc

of course it was commodified, it was a liberal reaction without class consciousness. also i forgot to change my flag. idk why i was using that one

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yeah…
smh

>>>/idpol/

nobody should be doing shit for "the revolution" you're as retarded as Holla Forums which it's "day of the rope". You should do things for yourself.

Yes for the majority of people not being fat is attractive even for themselves, it's also healthier. But some I do not know them but I know they exist, like being fat.

Simply because they don't realize that it is a class struggle is the reason for Yvan to go to /idpol/

I don't dislike fat people, but taking pride in being unhealthy is mind-boggling to me

This.
Capitalism causes trickle down but the fat people eat too much for it to trickle to africa.
Lefties need to learn basic economics.

He'd do it if a feminist told him that she's happy he's alive.

Hi, Sargon.

They should be accepted as people but not encouraged to think that's somehow healthy or desirable.

Literally subsidized by the food industry to silence protest about the obesity epidemic. Bourgy as fuck.

Fuck frumps and fuck wide people.

Credible proofs to this claim?

so am I just in a vanishingly small minority here? I'm definitely glad I dropped the fat, and I'm glad I got nagged about it as well. don't see why a society should make special reservations in order to make people feel that excess body fat is "acceptable", even when caused by lifestyle choices rather than being induced by some sort of serious medical condition. it's strictly suboptimal, why accept it?

Now I'm not advocating bullying of fat people by any means, but shouldn't a "body positivity" movement focus on conditions that aren't (usually) a direct result of one's daily choices? like for instance, amputees, hypothyroidism sufferers, midgetry / dwarfism / gigantism (I'm definitely missing the nomenclature here but whatever.), burn victims, albinos… that's just off the top of my head.

and it's not like this is an ideological thing, having a bunch of excessive body fat is objectively bad for you. it has obvious, immediately noticeable, and potentially severe disadvantages, with basically no advantages whatsoever. how exactly are you going to get a society to stop viewing obesity with negative connotations when it's objectively something you should avoid? if we're trying to make these people stop feeling depressed, wouldn't it make more sense to tackle this from the angle of actually fixing the obesity epidemic? fat acceptance seems like treating a single symptom instead of applying a cure. May as well make a "sunburn acceptance" or "ignorance acceptance" or "smoking acceptance" movement or something.

I'm against being a dick to fat people for the sake of it. That said, I would never date a fatty. They're lifestyles are gross and I don't think they are attractive. If fat acceptance means saying "fat is beautiful" or whatever, then that's probably not me. If you're into banging large ladies tho, be my guest.

We should start bullying people who smoke. It's unhealthy and unlike being fat, it directly hurts people in your environment.

killing americans in european soil shouldn't be considered a crime.

Stop with this fucking bullshit.

t. pack a day

fuck off you smoker piece of shit

Smokers could probably kick the shit out of you though, jelly rolls. Unless of course you put all that hefty weight behind the first punch and manage to land it without your gut throwing you off balance.

I'm not fat and smokers would collapse from lack of breath before they could come close to me

The only reason smoking is considered """cool""" instead of destructive behaviour of weak-willed faggots is bourgeois propaganda advertising campaigns.

They do, although it's not as prominent as towards fat people because there's significantly more fat people.

Every other week with this shit.

Fuck off. Your attempt at finding contradictions in my argument is as useless as it is pathetic. Obesity would be eradicated by removing unhealthy foods, pointless office-work, suburban life and promoting mental and physical health, over time, not magically, as I already explained previously.


Smoking is already banned in lots of places. What needs to be done is destroy tobacco companies… and capitalism

Outrun them

If fat people could run they wouldn't be fat.

who cares?

the only thing I can connect to socialism is having a bunch of fat fucks is going to make the revolution more difficult in action

Protip: smokers are universally despised.

Thanks for the protip, but I don't really care what people with the passive aggressiveness of a frumpy middle aged public sector menopausal bitch think.

But Sargon, if your position is that fat people won't instantly disappear under socialism, why is it foolish to have a position that they shouldn't pay more for taking up more space?

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shameless bump 4 >>>/gnussr/

It's literally satire become reality.

You're right, but the problem is human nature. You can't just try to force people to be nicer to each other, because half the time you end up cracking down on the victims rather than the aggressors. You'd have to create a more intelligent, more empathic kind of human to solve that problem.

I don't think you understand "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". Their seating needs would be serviced, while simultaneously being reduced by healthier living. Not only for improved transportation efficiency, but for overall human well being.

Under the lower stage of communism, many services and products will still be rationed according to pay. See Critique of the Gotha Program.

If you remove all "first class" seats in airplanes you'd have way more space for seating. I don't see why you couldn't have a row or two for the low % of uberfat people, disabled, etc… (and give a bit more space to everyone too) and see no reason for anyone to pay more for it, but if they were to have access to any transportation services they would need to prove participation in a (free) health program. After a 5 year health improvement plan morbidly obese people that require two seats would be largely unexistent (except those with genetic disorders) and therefore mostly a non-issue.

what?

A lot of four-letter words in English describe swear words or at least various scatological or filthy things or just plain negative things, so that's a metaphor for saying "fat is not a bad thing".

FAAAAT ASSES

Does it deal with the struggle between the working class and capitalist exploitation? No? Then we don't give a fuck either way, you should know this by now.

Wew lad you have no comprehension of reality

THERE ARE FOUR LETTERS!

An interesting consequence of the effects of capitalism in the first world. Should one support it? No, but neither should one bitch about fatties. Ignore it

Counter revolutionary CANCER.
Fatness is a sign of greedy capitalist decay.
Fat people are selfish and hedonistic.
Fuck fat people i wish they would die quicker and that fat diabetes didn't had a treatment.