Is displacement of ethnic majorities good or bad?

In the US by 2045 nonwhites will be a Majority in the US
america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/6/25/whites-on-target-to-become-a-us-minority.html

In the UK by 2066 whites will be a minority in the UK
express.co.uk/news/uk/396390/Migrants-change-UK-forever-White-Britons-will-be-in-minority-by-2066

This is also happening in many more currently white majority countries.

Is this something that should be stopped?
The people in these countries never voted to become a minority would it be wrong for them to stop that from happening peacefully?
What are your thoughts on this?

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slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/01/halting_immigration_won_t_stop_the_u_s_from_becoming_a_majority_minority.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States
pamelageller.com/2013/07/uk-53-of-muslim-men-dont-work-infidels-support-them.html/
amren.com/features/2015/10/welfare-whos-on-it-whos-not/
amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Color-Of-Crime-2016.pdf
wsws.org/en/articles/2004/06/musl-j03.html
ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1994-2013.xls
ucr.fbi.gov/nibrs/2013/data-tables
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Kill every last white person. Their genetics will prevent a true communist revolution. Some will always try to take lead and conquer. Brown people are genetically more predisposed to communal living. Communism is brown.

Kinda sounding like Hitler there bud.

No one in the US is actually being displaced, the only actual difference is the number of Mexicans in the southwestern states. Otherwise it'll mostly be the same. And even then it's assuming immigration rates will magically remain the same after 40 years of possible policy changes.

You'd think Holla Forums would be fapping to lower black birth rates too.

We can't deny genetics. Hell, look at China. They are about to go full-force into eugenics, birthing a generation of only the most smartest and capable people. Although I'm not privy to the CCCP, they will start to overtake the world that way.

Its not important, race is a bad meme. And if the bourgies dont like the proletarian culture of the imigrants they only can blame themselves for not doing something to change it.

Actually even if all immigration were to stop today whites would still become a minority in the US and they are being displaced and it isn't just southwestern states it's going to happen everywhere.

Do you have any actual evidence of this?

But china isn't really communist it's just a facade they are capitalists.

Which part?

Literally outdated bullshit, we live in the age of actual genetic engineering not retarded race science and extermination fantasies

China is a socialist country with a capitalist mode of production

Still isn't communist

We're coming bucko.

Either. Death rates are only high for white Americans because the boomers are finally going to hell. It's extremely unlikely that they will remain high in the long term because birth rates aren't as disparate.

Ethnic majorities aren't being "displaced", non-whites simply have a higher fertility rate than whites. That alone is the real driver behind demographic change. You could bring immigration to a halt and it wouldn't change a thing.

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Demographic change is what I'm referring to.

u fuckin wot

ethnic displacement is irrelevant to you or me. Why should i care about "becoming a minority" (assuming that even happens, people have been panicking about whites being a minority for decades)
the only way you could stop that from happening is either by importing a shitton of white people(which is basically impossible) or forcibly preventing more nonwhites from coming into the country, (which would be a violent act)

I guess nobody on this board is a real socialist then

yes… that is correct.

it's kinda hard to find info on this but in this article they talk about how if all immigration was stopped whites would still become a minority in the US
slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/01/halting_immigration_won_t_stop_the_u_s_from_becoming_a_majority_minority.html

I only really worry about too many blacks because although they are a deeply spiritual, musical, and athletic race, they can't seem to maintain civilizations.
People who worry about too many Hispanics are retarded. Go learn about all the amazing stuff the Aztecs et al discovered and built. Easily as impressive as the Romans.

But would it be wrong to assert that they will remain the majority and stop from becoming a minority?

The quality of a society being socialist is defined by its objective functioning, not by the alleged intentions of its government.

Well if you look at societies mestizo Hispanics have created I honestly wouldn't want to live there.

you're never going to do that without a quasi-eugenics program to regulate breeding. best thing to do is to stop giving a shit.

Even so, the actual impact is as I described: most of the increase in the Hispanic population will be on the Mexican border. US society wouldn't really change must.
Rightcucks just think that Democrats will rule the US government forever or something.

Well if you look at voting pasterns of groups they are right minorities overwhelmingly vote democrat.
Also why do you think they would stay in the southwest that makes no sense Americans on avg move every 4 years.

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Because party strategy never changes, ever. The current whites-vs-nonwhites division was never going to work forever.
Besides, if nonwhites become an established majority demographic, liberalism will rapidly lose its appeal.
It'll take a very long time for them to sprawl out to the rest of the country, people tend to live in the general region they always have due to cultural familiarity and familial ties.

This should be a warning to any white people here, they WILL kill you for something you can't change. Dying for a change to make things better and fair is one thing, being killed for something you can't change despite supporting it is another.

We just wait till some friendly mod bumplocks this thread.

Whatever happens, we have got
The Maxim gun, and they have not.

If you fags are going to meme this thread, please sage.
Front page deserves better.

Well I disagree they may not vote democrat but they will still vote with for their own group interests I.E. identity politics which won't be the same interests that whites have even if they don't vote for them.

mexicans illegals are really just a underclass that porky wants to keep so he can have a justification of keeping low wages. muslims on the other hand i have no idea outside the obvious refugee crisis why porky would want them permanent.

Take a guess.
If it happens it will be the same as it did in Kosovo, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Brazil. Projecting even 20 years in the future is bad on the current trends but it will go this way:

1. "Minorities" breed like rabbits while the natives go about not making children. A combination of poor economic conditions and the LGBT propaganda.
2. The now majority 3rd worlders will vote themselves into the treasury and create a gigantic social state with basic income that's worthless while the productive natives slave away. Inflation will kill all the wealth that the middle class has.
3. When the other people's money stops coming as in every socialist country does, they will go into debt, default and banks will take complete control of the country. This is why various TPP, TTIP agreements were championed. It makes companies immune and native countries liable to cross country lawsuits.
4. World will unite under One World Government, which will be just a front for corporations, or better said A corporation that will control all others through debt and worthless currency. As it does now in lesser magnitude.

The ideology will of course be cultural marxism and blanda upp since that is the only one that transcends class. Real capitalist and workers will be one the same so no one will care for the rich guys as long as they're minority. Take a guess what that minority is.
The new boogeyman will be the white man as it is obvious now with the propaganda machine revving up.

Whites=evil capitalists since they basically rule the world while being a minority
3rd world=proletariat

There's an option though. If Western countries improve their economies by a large margin, the fertility will increase due to the middle class beginning to get rich and increase.
Otherwise we will be in literal hell, 1984 and BNW combined.

Particularism is an ideology in itself, not something inherent to nonwhites. This is literally the reasoning that Holla Forumsyps use to justify their platform.

But it is working so well for them why would they ever stop especially in the span of a little over 20 years for the US.

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I thought for sure that was literally the point?? Why else are TPTB pushing this shit so hard?

The fuck do you mean "working", it's nothing but divide and conquer in real politics. No one really benefits from particularism except the ruling class.


Gay rights were appropriated by liberal politicians as a wedge issue, something for people to be concerned with that doesn't threaten the status quo.
In reality, birth rates decline on their own as human development increases, which is something that annoys the hell out of bourgie. It's why he needs migrants.

Why else still have the gay pride events? They've already got more rights than heterosexuals so thats not the reason. If they wanted to just get drunk, do drugs or fuck they don't need to march for it.

Smart poster!

It is working for them they used to live in Mexico and their kids would have been born in Mexico and now 30% of Mexicans live in the US, I don't see how you could think it isn't working for them.

such as

Diversity quotas. You have to hire a certain percentage of LGBT people, its government mandated I got a job by pretending to be gay

yeah, sure, pretending

diversity quotas aren't a "right" though, so do you just mean gayfags get more benefits than str8fags or what

Shit like this makes me think people have a point when they say conservative politics are just the other half of the Oppression Olympics. I thought only Tumblr was shameless enough to go straight to lying on Internet forums.


Because they are still being exploited as wage slaves, you mong. Democrats have never given a fuck about them and Republicans have never given a fuck about the white majority.

Do you even know what this propaganda is doing to rebellious and always confused teenagers? This poison comes into their common discourse and even I can hear it sometimes even though I'm in my 20'.
And people who are normally weak willed or mentally damaged due to bad upbringing will consider something that is blaring at them through the media and symbology on products just becouse of attention seeking and peer pressure.

That's an obvious result of homosexuality.

I'm not saying that it's that widespread now, but in 10-20 years it will get a lot worse once the kids growing up hear this shit all over the place.

Its a positive right. LGBT have a right to be at least a certain percentage of any company with certain stipulations. Its as much a right as any other.

But they would have been wage slaves in Mexico and now they are in the US which is a definite upgrade which is why they come here

I was under no impression that they did.

Imperialism is always supposed to be bad but the kikes have brainwashed PoC to only believe it's bad when YPIPO do it

Meanwhile another multi million dollar mosque is begin built in Brussels as we speak

The kikes really pulled a fast one but they will pay eventually the Palestinians will outbreed them and push them into the sea

Are you claiming diversity quotas don't exist?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States

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Read your own evidence. There are no "LGBT" diversity quotas in the US, period. You are lying for ideological reasons.

For the same reason we still have celebrations on Irish-American Heritage Month.


Now you're being retarded on purpose.


Most people at Pride rallies are normies looking for some light entertainment, you know.

How does doublethink feel?

Which is why teenagers are not adults, you retard.
How is their bad upbringing not the crux of the issue here? People are not blank slates.


Which is irrelevant to identity politics.

The fading makes it look authentic and spooky.
No seriously though, I think it's from the Club of Rome conference on the "limits to growth." Before the second green revolution people were anticipating Malthusian catastrophe.

But you said it isn't working for them I said it is and gave an example of how.

Still no evidence of your claims. I grokked that entire page and didn't find a single reference to gays. Googled it and found nothing. There is no reason to believe what you claim even exists.

The term you're looking for is wrongthink, by the way. If you want to start making contrived references to 1984, at least make the correct ones.

And I explained how your argument is nonsense because identity politics didn't bring them to the US and give them a job. Most of the illegals don't even remain here for a very long time, they go back to Mexico with the money they scraped together since US dollars retain their value internationally.

I'm not talking about illegals I'm talking about all of them but mostly legal ones.

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mods have been lazy lately.

sage this shit

My point still stands: identity politics have done nothing to help them.

He's right tho — there is no such thing as affirmative action for LGBT+ people (yet?), just corporation policies against discrimination.

I think it has helped which is why they continue to do it and why every ethnic group but whites do it.

Always remember


Also can we have a Cultural Marxism flag already ?

This isn't about racial purity you could have read the thread first.

How convenient that neocon/neolib wars and free trade agreements such as NAFTA are ignored which is the primary cause of this entire shitshow.

No I don't think so in the US the 1965 immigration act or heart cellar act is what allowed for this to happen in the US and other countries including the UK passed similar act that allowed for this to happen.

How has it helped, then? Provide empirical evidence.

We have sanctuary cities that's one.

Do you really think those would exist without the Democrats' profit motive of illegal labor? Really?

Does that change any of what I said though?

Yes.
When there no common ethnicity, race or religion to unite the masses only class consciousness remains.

Which is the same decade world powers decided to adopt neoliberal policies. What a coincidence.

Yes, because identity politics are just a rationalization for what capitalists want to do anyway. If national demographics change, the rationales will adjust accordingly. No one has ever had their quality of life improved because of particularism except the ruling class.

Neo-liberalism happened in the '80s, not the '60s. Though it's true it was the result of a long-planned attempt at reinstating a free-market hegemony whose roots go back to the 1947 Mont Pelerin Society meeting of foremost liberal economists.

ignoring obvious trolls like

displacement of ethnic majorities is not good or bad, it is 100% neutral. unless you are a eugenics loving cunt it shouldn't matter because our descendants will still have been raised in "white society" and the only difference will be the tone of their skin.

OK well illegal immigrants are benefiting from it and their family members which is something that they have benefited from identity politics.

How can they be raised in white society when the society is not white?

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Prove that illegal immigration literally would not happen without identity politics.

Kill all anglos, tbh

Why, that is irrelevant to the OP which is, is it good or bad that the ethnic majorities are being displaced.

Neither, from a left wing standpoint.

I'm not talking about from a political standpoint I'm just asking.

What other standpoint did you expect to get? Some dystopian assburger rambling like ?

Well I mean like politics isn't everything, a lot more is going to change than just the politics of things.

From what standpoint would you like that issue analyzed then?

Whatever cultural changes will result will be in the context of an already multicultural nation.

Perhaps the standpoint of everyday life. I mean we can all agree that the native Americans did not benefit from their displacement or genocide why would we assume that white people would benefit from their displacement.

Statistical displacement is not physical displacement, retard.

1 it is physical displacement because what do you think the end result of statistical displacement is
2 I'm drawing parallels not saying they are exactly the same

Not another Trail of Tears. Your implications only make sense if you are already a particularist.

this is a good meme. ChinaBots need to leave.

Well, if you want to try and guess what daily life would look like say one century from now, there are many variables that are much more critical than simply the population's ethnic makeup.


There are no commonality between statistical displacement (a group simply loosing their majority status) and physical displacement through persecution, deportation and outright genocide.

The only possible relation that could exist between statistical and physical displacement when it comes to white Americans is increased white flight — that is, whites deciding to leave for more homogeneous neighborhoods.

No white guy is going to get deported because he so happens to not be part of the statistical majority anymore.

Where did I say that the CPC is inherently good? Unless you believe that being socialist makes you inherently good in which case you are the retarded drone here not me.

I think we can get a glimpse into the future by looking at majority minority cities today

What happens when there are no more large places for white flight to occur?

The only displacement will be of the native working class because porky doesn't want his workers being paid a living wage where he can easily just import third world people doing slave work because third worlders don't complain. I can see first world countries transforming into a Caste system where people from non European countries are used as permanent serfs if this continues. Automation of course can prevent that but the native working class would also be fucked either way due to loss of jobs. I predict current ethno-nationalists and socialist/communists will transform into some sort of neo-luddite
political group when automation occurs in the future.

Are you trying to give us the nigger talk? We're Holla Forums's jaded little brother, we've heard it before.

I get that but it is still true what I'm saying majority minority cities are a glimpse into our future and the UK's future.

In what sense? I've been to Washington DC and it's actually a pretty nice place, even in the black majority areas.

Higher crime rates higher poverty rates higher rates of benefits usage. The culture will also change more dramatically in the UK than the US.

Most Mexicans have only minimal amounts of specifically Aztec descent. Most I imagine are descended from neighbouring Nahua tribes which allied with the Conquistadors against the Three Cities. It doesn't stop the pale, white skinned ones from pretending to be full-blooded Aztecs who bitch and complain about having lost their oh-so precious gold to the Spanish, the same Spanish they could blend in perfectly with.

And do you have any actual evidence of this?

read the camp of the saints and the turner diaries, it's all in there

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pamelageller.com/2013/07/uk-53-of-muslim-men-dont-work-infidels-support-them.html/
53% of Muslim men don't work in the UK 75% for Muslim women

amren.com/features/2015/10/welfare-whos-on-it-whos-not/
it shows the benefits usage percentage in the US

amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
statistic on the race of the perpetrators of crime

This says nothing about the social status of future non-whites. Cities with a majority-minority today are defined first and foremost by unemployment as their population have become surplus in an ever-shrinking labor market.


They stay where they are, and therefore no physical displacement occurs.

Every time.

There is no such thing as a monolithic, unchanging culture. So-called British or American culture today is markedly different from what it was a century ago and from what it will be a century from now. And immigration actually plays a minor role in this at best.

really?!

Any proof on that?
The people who will be the majority in Britain have an extremely different culture.

Well it was hard to find the statistics on the first one but it has sources
and in the Amren ones that's solid data.

Do you have statistics from unbiased sources, seeing as one of those is from the website of an anti-islamic activist and the other two are from White Nationalist publications?

the first one uses sources and you can follow them to some thing not anti Islamic
and the second one uses FBI data to create their statistics they aren't making their statistics up.

Can you provide the sources that your sources used then?

People don't "have" a culture. Culture is not some sort of eternal essence attached to a specific people, but a complex web of ever-changing beliefs and practices. The culture of say British Muslims will change over time just like it did for white Britons in the past. Most Americans used to believe not so long ago that gays were degenerate subhumans who deserved every inch of their chemical castration or conversion therapy, now gay marriage in the US has majority approval. There is no reason to believe this cannot happen for Muzzies.

2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Color-Of-Crime-2016.pdf
this uses FBI data as the source

wsws.org/en/articles/2004/06/musl-j03.html
This isn't anti Islamic and it is the source of the 53% of Muslim men are not economically active

Culture is downstream of genetics.

I'm having a hard time believing source #2. Anybody else? White British people ain't even a minority in London yet and this is by far the most diverse part of the country.

Whites are gonna get shoah'd in America by 2060 though. The US Census even says so.

What the fuck?

Almost everything the state does is a violent act. Collecting taxes is a violent act. That's the dumbest fucking reason to dismiss a course of action there is.

Immigration is arguably bad for third world nations as well, I really think it's defended almost only as a result of porky humanistic marketing and fascism anxiety.

White British people are a minority in Britain.

The "free market" and big corporations conservatives worship so are the main cause of multiculturalism and the flood of third worlders into the West.

At this point i wouldn't be surprised that Holla Forums are still closet lolbertarians.

in London my bad

So Arab girls are born with the uncontrollable urge to wear beekeeper suits fir modesty's sake and every Austrian boy comes outta his mum's womb yodeling?

Don't make me have to pull up a basic Wikipedia article to debunk that claim. It's too hot and I'm already too tired for that today.

I am hesitant to call the first source unbiased, as the New Century Foundation publishes American Renaissance. If you could provide the FBI data itself, that would be wonderful.

I corrected myself

ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1994-2013.xls

Arab girls are born a full standard deviation to the left in terms of Autism Level as the UK's average Autism Level drifts to the left English culture will not only fundamentally go extinct but basic services and roads will begin to crumble as well and the UK will just become another corrupt third world shariah shithole.

Third world people, third world problems.

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Here is a better one
ucr.fbi.gov/nibrs/2013/data-tables

You serious, m8? What does eye-queue have to do with very specific cultural traits like wearing a burka?

National Crime Victimization Survey,
(number); Bureau of Justice Statistics, “Criminal Victimization, 2013,” Appendix Table 1.

He's retarded, don't even bother

Depends on if you care bout them "other whites" like the Irish, Poles and Romanians coming to The UK cuz with them London's still roughly 60% white going by the latest census data.

I said minority British white not minority white

Don't Brit/pol/yps tolerate *those* kind of immigrants though?

there will always a hated minority, before Arab it was poles, before that, jews, before that Irish.

its a never ending tribalistic crap

What most people don't seem to understand is that once income, quality of life, and overall living standards go up, people staart having less children. in the 17 and 1800s it wasn't uncommon for white families to have 6-7 or even 8 kids as most families were still very poor and relegated towards shitty peasant work. It stayed like this until about the early 20th century. You can also see this happening in wealthy black families who on average have less children than their poorer counterparts. If there's anything to take from that it's that these poorer minorities will have dropping birth rates once their conditions start improving. And all of these projections are shit, things always change, don't put too much stock into them.

itt: Whites that would rather live under a consumeristic omogenic culture globally because agreeing on something with a reactonary is worse than being erased.

They make socialist a huge part of their identity, and it compromises them intellectually (same with any other identification, to a greater or lesser extent depending on the identification's enforcing community). If they agree with reactionaries on something, they risk losing a lot of their friends, their solidarity with their tribe, and a huge chunk of what makes them unique. Socialists have a particularly virulent case of this, because socialists tend to form tight bonds in the course of activism related social events.

This is a big part of why political discussion is so irredeemably shit, and why most people are so compromised. Smart people here believe things like "You cannot produce a useful measure of intelligence", mostly because they're afraid of what social consequences of believing anything they hear from Holla Forums.

If intelligence can be measured, and by being measured it shows that certain individuals have more intelligence than others, and that it's shown that it's passed down genetically, and that intelligence is a massive predictor of success, work ethic, low criminality, and generally being what society needs, then what would the correct course of action be?
Would we enact eugenics policies on the people that don't have the right genes?

Yes. That's exactly what we would do, hopefully through gene editing like CRISPR, or maybe through something more upsetting if necessary. Obviously whatever is implemented should be done as humanely as possible, the goal is to reduce suffering.

Also, assuming you're not an antinatalist, there should be some efforts to keep smart, healthy people reproducing at a replacement rate, or at least some effort to grow smart, healthy people in labs.