Abolishion of commodity production

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I'm new on studying marxism, and i'm trying to understand the idea of "abolishing commodity production", how could this work? I read the chapter where Marx wrote about commodity production, and i think he is trying to criticize the way it works on capitalism, but not trying to "abolish it"
But, can someone explain that?

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You produce things not to exchange with other products, but for use.

A chair is not produced to be bartered or sold but because society needs chairs.

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Thanks, i think i got the point

Why are communists so fucking stupid?

Without production for exchange, there are only two options:
1) Revert back to the forms of labor that existed before specialization - i.e. the extreme caricature of anarcho-primitivism.
Or 2) Central planning. Which just results in beaurocrats controlling the means of production rather than the workers… which means it's not socialism.

Obviously your retarded ideology based on edgy keynesianism, incoherent mysticism, and declaring war on half the planet is far more intelligent.

Shut up, shut up. OP don't listen to this guy.

The abolition of commodity production is instrumental in overcoming capitalism. Btw what are you reading?

Planning=/=six guys in an office in Moscow making all of the decisions.

Well sir, i'm starting by some articles on "marxism.org", and i'm reading a book called "post-capitalism a guide to our future", and it's a really leftcom book
Btw, any recommendations?

I read that book recently and its bad. Aside from a decent premise and an interesting overview of the history of economics there's nothing to be gained from reading it.
that's not what leftcommunism is thankfully

I'm going to start the third part tomorrow, till now it's a good book on history of economics and on critics of capitalism
But i want to see its views against central planning

Read this fam

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I see the ancap infiltrators have wisened up and starting posting with the yugo flag instead of pretending to be mutualists.

I will
Thanks sir

No problemo. The first chapter gets at your question in the OP.

Wage Labour and Capital marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/
Value, Price and Profit marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/
Critique of the Gotha Programme
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/
If you want an introduction to Marx's Capital read the PDF.

Do the workers control the means of production?
Do they have control of the workplace?

Then it's not capitalism.

Says the nazi lol

Not only does that not determine what is and what isn't socialism or capitalism, it is completely arbitrary. ML states also justified themselves by saying the bureaucrats had the interests of the people at heart, just like neoliberals praise entrepreneurs for "growing the economy and creating jobs for us all".
Money, wage labour, production for exchange: it's capitalism. Capitalism under the pretense of self-management is not socialism.
Reproduction of capital is an impersonal process.

Well tough shit, like it or not, Market Socialism is a more realistic possibility for the current age than any other Socialist ideology is.

It is in the possibility of market "socialism" (read: generalized commodity production horizontalized) that lies the fact that it is not socialism at all, or even revolutionary in any way.

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Have you even read a book?

For the love of god, read a fucking book or lurk moar.

It's a more practical next step towards Socialism compared to anything that any of your obscure Anarchist or Third Worldist schools of thought could present, the vast majority of which 99% of the world's population isn't capable of understanding.

Fight me.

Imagine being this idealist.

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Did the economic activity of the people at least benefit the people?

coops might be useful in establishing socialism in the future but coops itself are not socialist.

Read Cockshott, it gives a good insight of why market socialism does not work as saocialism whilt proposing a feasible alternative

Not him, but it's a perfect argument.
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It would need post-scarcity economy. I give it 50 years and capitalism will abolish itself when everything is automatised.

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Post scarcity is already here, user. We make enough food for every human to be fat. Clean water technology is cheap enough that the rich nations can expand it globally on a whim if they decide to.
The US has 500,000 homeless people and 3,000,000 empty homes. The EU (including Britain) has 1,500,000 homeless people and 11,000,000 empty homes. India has 1,770,000 homeless and 11,000,000 empty homes. China has 2,579,000 homeless people and 40,000,000 empty homes.
Homelessness and hunger exist because capitalism creates scarcity to prop up prices. That's literally the only reason.

Commodities are goods produced to be exchanged.

When things are exchanged, they are sold on the market for the purpose of attaining a surplus value (profit).

Under Socialism, goods would be produced to be used, and not sold on a market as markets would no longer exist. Surplus value would also no longer exist, rather a direct exchange would take place between a worker's labour and his labour vouchers, that he can use to attain luxuries. What the worker gives to society in one form, he takes out in another.

Holy shit Yugoflags are guaranteed to accompany some serious stupidity.

Or just produce on demand. Shouldnt be to hard, just have an amazon with longer delivery times. After a while you run some predictive algorithms over the data to anticipate spikes and shits done. We no longer live in the 20th century man.

What the FUCK did you say boy?

I'm looking for the proofs here? Where have the proofs gone?

We just have to want it and overthrow the bourgeoisie.

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Fuck off, Fukuyama.

Are you illiterate? I said for the "current age".