Here's what I got out of reading this comic:

Here's what I got out of reading this comic:
A global revolution is logistically impossible.
Without a global revolution, capitalism wins.
Therefore, capitalism always wins.

Or can a global revolution happen without there being a world war three?

What is a globalized inter connected highly developed economy in crisis?

If one of the 3 powerblocks falls to communism and the other one is disempowered during a great recession it would be enough. If there is a WW 3 entirely depends on how the capitalists act.

the ussr was a giant powerblock and it didn't manage to start a global revolution.

Look at this map.
USSR + China had a huge fucking chunk of the world and population.
And even when all of the west except the United States were fucked up beyond belief after World War II no global revolution happened.

And that's excluding the Warsaw Pact nations.

The ussr wasn't a giant powerblock when it fell to communism and by the time it was a superpower it was a benevolent technocratic social democracy trying to outlast the west.


China was underdeveloped as fuck and the USSR suffered most from the war.

So when socialism fails, it's no longer socialism?

when its capitalism it isn't socialism, correct :^)

So socialism has never existed and communism will never exist, because global revolution is impossible.

This thread smell like Trots

Where did you get that idea disingenuous faggot?
proofs?

stop

From the guy I responded to.
Also, where do socialist nations exist then?

I don't see it as logistically feasible, that's all. Even if there was a one-world empire, a revolution would just break it apart into smaller pieces that would go their own way.
That's what happened to all Empires, from the Roman to the British.

Not a trot, son.

>socialism has never existed
>where do socialist nations exist
hmm…

I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.
Where does socialism exist and how can that socialist entity enable the global revolution?

hmm…

So socialism doesn't exist and has never existed. Got it.

And?

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Where did you get that idea?

Hes probably talking about stateless communism.

So where does socialism exist then?

No, I'm not.
My initial question was as follows:
If the USSR + Warsaw Pact + China couldn't start a global revolution, then what hope is there for a global revolution now?
And one answer I got was that the USSR was never socialist.

You're operating from some bizarre premise that 'global revolution' (also known as revolution) is some even triggered by a critical mass of countries where communists of some stripe or another are in power. This notion of what a revolution is or how it occurs is antithetical to any marxist or anarchist notion of revolution. It is more accurately what follows post-capitalism. When capitalism's internal contradictions overwhelm it and society as we know it collapses with markets failing to distribute resources and profit no longer playing a factor in the economy there will be a catastrophic crisis demanding the restructuring of the economy and the ushering in of a new mode of production not that you actually care.

The October revolution sparked other revolutions in Europe, though.

When capitalism fails, strong-man fascism usually follows.
The Global Great Depression gave Europe Hitler, Mussolini, and other fascists an opportunity to take over.

Let me rephrase that:
When capitalism fails to deliver on its promises, it transforms into fascism.
This often happens with the consent of the majority.

this is a blatantly incorrect portrayal of the situation.
1. communist movements were significantly more popular that fascist movements
2. fascist movements were not a popular response to capitalist crisis, but the response of the bourgeoisie to growing communist popularity
3. neither hitler nor mussolini got into power by any sort of democratic consent, rather power was handed to them by the other bourgeois forces to restore the stability of the bourgeois order through repression of revolutionary elements.
Moreover the great depression was not a crisis of the sort described by the post you're responding to, the world had recovered from most of it and the war boosted the rate of profit massively allowing for capitalism to thrive again. There is no feasible way to boost the rate of profit at this point in history, especially since the latest ploy of the bourgeoisie to keep profits high (neoliberal policy) has just about run out and the public coffers are dry as austerity has siphoned more and more tax revenue into boosting profits in the private sector.