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We really need to do a raid against the idpol factions of social media

We don't want to oppress women or POC
we just identify the bigger fish to focus on

It's funny cause that quote is anti-idpol. Idpolers as usually mistake our position as reactionary instead of actual universalism.

When are they gonna stop being autistic? How the fuck are women and minorities oppressed in the first world?

Depends on the state in a lot of them homosexuals and women are basically trash. And if you want to go more meta everyone is oppressed in a state. Having rights instead of might means you're a slave allowed only to what Papa says.

Barring some retarded current or ex-Holla Forumsyps most of us agree with Huey. The problem is reification. It's essentializing and idealising identity to the point where the class dimensions of an issue are ignored. Additionally, what anti-idpol is primarily about is recognising that while its absolutely necessary to deal with unique issues faced by certain segments of our population (women, ethnic minorities, etc.) that by itself does not constitute socialism. It is necessary for a properly universalist socialist project, just it isn't socialism by itself. On top of that, if we make the mistake of thinking that dealing with a minority's unique issues without relating it explicitly to class struggle then it becomes incredibly easy for capital to appropriate it.

Finally, identity politics (as opposed to a class based understanding of unique minority issues) is essentially individualist and does divide the working class. The way to avoid that is to bring those issues under the framework of a class analysis. In this way we see how our collective struggles, unique as they might be in presentation, are in fact shared.

Nice mansplaining, dipshit

There's a reason they do that.

Wow, I didn't believe it at first, but anfem posters really ARE the worst.

You're right. If we could just end sexism and racism even though it's biologically impossible the west will truly be saved.

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Socialism is all about seizing whatever you can. Morality, women's rights, blacks, those are all spooks. Because I am a white male I will extend oppressive institutions far into socialism so I can keep having power. There's nothing wrong with that. Marx teaches you that morality is all bullshit made up by suits so they can keep their fragile grip over people. There's no difference between going to war against the weak and vulnerable and going to war against the bourgeois, if both are in your interest.

You should read Stirner.

So it's universal instead of particular? Well then it's not racism, if everyone is suffering.

Are you retarded?

This is just bourgeois feminism, which is the original idpol.

The woman's struggle, the black struggle, and the LGBT struggles are all real and need to be addressed but the point that we are constantly trying to make is that all of these systems of oppression are rooted in capitalism and attempting to alleviate these problems without attacking the superstructure is not only useless, but it also distracts from the one and only real solution to these problems,
the destruction of capitalism.

Go away.

maybe you aren't cut out for the revolution

pick one

okay porky

No, you are. You think a leftist is supposed to be a certain way, although that's only a fourth as far as it should be taken. "Solidarity" is meaningless bullshit. Liberating yourself does not mean liberating everybody. Any ontology of the other/slave dialectic underpinnings of universal freedom is just a ton of spooks.

The only reason women and blacks are being liberated are for their labor value to porky. Socialism is all about killing the suits who try to keep death and life separate so they have nice, docile workers. It's about going back to a blank slate so you can carve out your piece, getting rid of all states and laws so you can take your share. If you were honest you would understand this.

I don't even like women anyway, they're stukc up bitches.

Lmao that Newton quote is exactly what most people here believe we just recognize that capitalism and class struggle is fundamental to those struggles. (Like huey himself did)

cuckdem needs to kill himself, nazi bootlicker

This.
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lurk moar

yea, we shouldn't be meanies to traps, blacks, or women… so what?

We just believe, since we are communists, that economic inequality based on wage slavery by stealing the surplus value is the nature of capitalism.
Creating a divisive agenda of blacks vs whites, men vs women, or any other bullshit is liberal idpol that is used to avoid political alliances against porky.

/lefypol/ agrees pretty much with Fred Hampton

better video

I have. You lurk moar

you can't have lurked moar you dip

do you listen to Linkin Park?

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You fucking idiot.

Read Stirner. Here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-left_anarchy


You're calling me stupid because you can't defend your opinions. There's no rational justification for calling everything except for egalitarianism a spook.

Thr grievances of Idpol can be easily addressed within capitalism. Idpolers cannot be revolutionaries not matter how histrionic and extreme they get.

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Don't steal my avatar you edgy fuck

friendly reminder that when the socdem revolution happens, those who refuse to check their muh privilege will be dealt with the same way we dealt with Rosa Luxemburg

Property's a spook, so anybody can use him.