Have We Reached Peak Idpol?

My god *sniff*

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in 10 years liberals will unironically be claiming that anti-capitalism is racist

calling it now

they're doing it right now by claiming that socialism only ever works in white countries like the Nordic states.
And yes, that argument is literally identical to what the nazis.

they're doing it right now by claiming that socialism only ever works in white countries like the Nordic states.
And yes, that argument is literally identical to what the nazis believe.

I'm pretty sure that already have. Some soulless DC shill got a lot of flak a couple of months ago for claiming that income inequality was a "white male" concern and the rest of society had "bigger problems." Can't remember her name though.

Hey but buying from a black capitalist is so much better guysss

are you fucking serious? jesus christ, that's fucking ridiculous. income inequality affects people of color way more than whites on the whole.

Especially underrepresented ones like blacks and hispanics.

Nordic people have very high social capital for some reason, higher than everyone else with ethnic Swedes having the highest. This has nothing to do with the welfare system that they have had since the end of WWII since the descendants of nordic immigrants in America still show this in areas that are mostly inhabited by them.

EMBRACE THE IDPOL AND LET IT GUIDE YOU

Why, do white people get payed more than "people of color" for the same job?

Her names sally albright and shes just a bougie lanyard
for fucks sake before working for hillary she worked for Newt Gingrich

Does anyone else notice how many idpol pushing liberals tend to be petite bourgeoisie or wannabe bourgeoisie? A shit ton of them come from upper middle class families or they are often obsessed with celebrities.

You never see proles caring about what race the producer of a product is. They care about getting the basic necessities for their families.

Hmm.. Isn't drag culture woman hater though according to feminists? I mean straight men pretending to be women in an exaggerating way would be something that triggers them something fierce?

I'm not just talking about the west. Take a look at this chart of countries by Gini coefficient:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality#Gini_coefficient.2C_before_taxes_and_transfers

Now sort by gini coefficient, descending. Tell me when you get to the first Western country.

By "Western", I'm ignoring South Africa and mostly just talking about the US and Western Europe.

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Keeping money within the race is a good survival strategy tbh racial solidarity is important considering a low level Nazi masturbation fantasy is being fought at all times.

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Would a white man or a woman be payed less the "coloreds" when working in those countries?

Wtf is their problem

"We're not gonna fight capitalism with black capitalism"

Clearly white people have higher average incomes in a country like South Africa.

My point is that income inequality is worse in countries outside of the EU and US/Canada

Here it is. Expect this bullshit to get even worse.

Drag culture is also transphobic according to idpolers.

Why would that be in a post Mandela SA? And are factoring in the permanently unemployed white minority that resulted from the governments positive discrimination for the majority or only the employed? Employed whites in SA tend to be well educates.

Of course it is, how could I have missed that.

hmmm…probably because of neoliberalism? Really makes me think.

Holla Forumsack detected. Back to your containment board!

Context? I'd bet £10 right now that whoever posted that was talking to black people, not whites and was promoting "group economics" to counteract institutionalised racism. Show us the rest if that thread, OP.

"Woke" blacks strongly encourage supporting black-owned businesses big and small to keep money circulating in the black community (instead of just giving it to the rich whites that own WalMart when you do your shopping) and promote black entrepreneurship so that black workers won't have to rely only on non-black people to give them work which they often won't do. It's called "group economics" and they promote this economic strategy to take away the power of other races (mostly whites) to make their lives hard by using their ownership of most of the private sector and government institutions.

For example: X race hates Y people, X race owns most businesses in town and Y race ain't got shit, X race refuses to hire Y race at any businesses owned by other X people and Y race ends up even poorer than before so Y race says fuck X racists and open up businesses of their own to service their community and hire their people which breaks Xs' power to oppress their people by denying them employment through control of the economy.

That's group economics for you and it's why Jews are so rich and successful everywhere they go. They buy kosher, sell kosher and hire kosher which means if one of them's got a loaf of bread (metaphor for a business or money to spend) they make sure that their people eat first before the goyim do. That keeps Jews employed and the money circulating in their community instead of being spent at a gentile's business.

Pan-Africans/pro-blacks/"woke niggas" admire this strategy so they wanna try it for themselves in the hood which is why I bet £10 that whoever made that post was telling black people to support the business in question for the hood of the black community instead of jumping ship and supporting another man's company.

Show us the context of that post, OP.

Elaborate. Why would a majority "colored" nation state discriminate against "coloreds"?

Are you denying that their are positive discrimination polices in SA for the majority?

You'll see this eventually. I swear on it.

Why afroplasm always talk like this?

Isn't that what "horseshoe theory" is all about?

Fucking finally! It took me like 10h to post that cuz it took so long for the board to compute my capcha answer. Holla Forums is a laggy piece of shit. Makes all the more sense now that I know the admin's a woman. *FIX IT!* Astaghfirullah!

For the same reason you and your cousin touched wieners, faggot.

You are a filthy newfag name poster, nothing the the BO does could affect how shit the backend of this website is and is completely out of their control.

Good to see you're still on my dick. Let's hope you'll actually filter out my comments for good this time instead of threatening to do it for dramatic effect, pussy.

You are talking about nepotism and in group preference which most people on here would call idpol.

Can you not read the file name it isnt a threat its a reminder for everyone

That's just racism, you stupid nigger.

Horseshoe theory is horseshit since some of the alleged far right parties in Europe are just old school SocDems such as the Swedish Democrats and Danske Folkeparty who just want to preserve the welfare state.

In all fairness America ain't really a "post-racial society" where people identify more with class than they do with race (why rednecks without 2c to rub together still vote Republican) so I wouldn't call group economics in the black community "idpol" like that 72 genders college campus bullshit.

Its Politics based around Identity so IdPol

And Holla Forums wonders why black people identify more with race than 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧the white working-class🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.

Nigger.

Dude, why are you behaving like such a fucking porch monkey?

Nah, it's a response to centuries of poor white idpol, cuck.

Good job responding to idpol with idpol. Thats gona get you real far.

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Nigger.

Nah, be a better class ally then.

No it is not. And that is why I oppose the racial diversification of my own nation, which is still quite homogeneous racially as the largest immigrant group by far is Poles, and I don't see how encouraging divisive nepotistic idpol would be a positive for any community. America is quite fucked in this regard and it is not going to get any better I fear.

Nigger.

Fellow Britbong?

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Nigger.

I'm not idpol, but it's not white people are paid more for the same job, it's just that because of historical relationships, such as slavery and colonialism, areas with predominantly black citizens have been poor areas. If skin colors were reversed, it'd be the same thing.
TL;DR Capitalism is a fuck.

Are there anywhere white people aren't paid better than the other races?

Israel?

He isn't saying it doesn't exist. He's saying that good people pretend that it doesn't.

Wow! I have a new found hatred for Capitalism, and have a super easy way to explain the effects of Capitalism on racial groups. Thanks bud.

I have no clue, but at least in some old civilizations. Like Rome maybe? I'm not an expert.

Even in Roman time, the fair-skin was preferred.

I mean presumably your class struggle too, but I guess that jigaboo brain doesn't let you see that.

Icelander. Used to work with some Poles, One was my friend I guess, thought the world of me because I didn't treat him like shit and bought him drinks when we went out on company outings. His wife came here also later and worked for the same company. I lost touch with him after I left the company but later heard that he went back to Poland because his mom wanted to be near her grandchildren. Stay save Piotr.

The NBA.

Comrades don't call comrades niggers. That's why I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Pan-Africanist.

I'm poor too but let's not act like all western proles are eating moldy food.

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Not using racial slurs is liberalism, I guess.

No such thing. it is all relative.

You're a dumb coon, and I didn't call you a nigger, spook.

Nigger.

Damn, you got me.

I fucking care, made in China sucks, and indian chefs are something to watch out.

why do people hate on afroplasm so much? he's a pretty decent poster, there's no need to constantly throw racist epithets around. seems pretty Holla Forums in here.

kek m8, those products weren't cheap because they were made by a chinese person.
This fucking board my god.

Why are you such a disingenuous jungle bunny, afroplasm?

This.

The food sucks precisely because it's made by a poo in loo.

The products suck precisely because of shit tier QC by a chink.

I'm sorry, but the proles do fucking care where your products come from.

Half this thread should be banned.

I don't see how the fuck is capitalism is to be blamed for this?

Does capitalism make poo in loo and chink make shitfood and make white people make good food?

OP here fam

Listen I understand the fight with idpol - that's what this whole post is about - but going the other way reactingly overtly racist is just juvenile & reactionary.

Afroplasm - you sometimes have interesting things to say but as much as I support the fight against racism I can't condone the use of idpol (as in this image) to give support for capitalism

Remember the enemy is ALWAYS Capitalism & the bourgeiose - racial divisions that strengthen either conservatives or liberals are both reactionary tools to divide the prole - don't accept the pseudo-left's attempts to subvert & divide the right. That also includes going so far with anti-idpol - as we can see in this thread - as to devolve into "ironic" racism - the line there is very thin & not one leftists should so casually tread

Yes, unregulated capitalism causing a bunch of shitty products to flood everywhere is the fault of capitalism, not the chinese. Unless you are willing to argue that mcdonalds or walmart are sufficiently chinese.
No I know you're just pulling my leg.

Thai chefs though, god tier food.

Fucking god what are we even talking about. Race has nothing to do with food & what the fuck does any of this petty idpol shit have to do with leftism.

Honestly - tons of white people make shitty food - look at fast food. There's tons of amazing non-white food too - lots of delicious Indian/Asian/African/South American food. Literally good food has nothing to do with race - it's an absolutely asinine argument from conception. Yeah Capitalism has cheapened lots of food overall - but the argument you seem to be making is one that has no basis in reality nor any relevance to the class struggle.

TLDR - STFU you reactionary retard

But the big restautant chinks have a shitton of regulation. While my average white restaurant has next to no regulation, food still tastes better.

There are a shitton of chinese food brand, and they are sometimes worse than McDonald.
But white people make good food?

I'm not afroplasm

It's also right-wing identity politics. Something people are hesitant to even call identity politics, for some reason, possibly the same reason they're okay with advocating right-wing identity politics.
Let's also not forget that other classes other than the bourgeois can be in charge and it can be just as awful as long as there's a class divide.

Yes, it does.

Indian chefs fucking suck, they wipe their ass with their fingers and cook.

Same for chinks.

Keep deluding yourself though.

But why?

Come on, be serious.

Because they are easier to look at?

Oh man, I don't know where is this white people make bad food coming from.

I guess you never seen an indian or chink kitchen.

But you are a dumb nigger.

Imagine being this much of a virgin

Why would they be easier to look at?

Most of the 1% in the USA are Jewish. Oprah Winfrey has a net worth of around 3 billion for reasons I can't understand. Tons of black athletes make way more money than they have earned. I'm looking at you Pacman.

Because they are white looking, black is stain, white is clean, this is universally accepted.

I happen to be a virgin and I prefer white people food.

God you sound like an absolute retard. This has utterly no basis in reality you dumb fuck. I've had plenty of incredibly indian food before as well as tons of shit tier white food. The school food they serve white kids in schools fucking sucks - the fast food served by white people fucking sucks. Obviously there's also crap food made by Indians & delicious food made by whites. Here's the thing - THIS WHOLE TOPIC IS UTTERLY IRRELEVANT

Honestly wtf are you trying to say & how does it have anything at all to do with class struggle. Here's a clue - it doesn't & you are the delusional one who has no basis in reality. Retard

I know. This is what I said. There's a correlation ykno.

Which is why I'm a Marxist-Leninist-Pan-Africanist. I don't trust the black capitalist class as far as I can throw them cuz too often they place their class interests over the good of the black proletariat. Just look at Oprah or Michael Jordan. They made their millions and peace'd the fuck out. Black empowerment ain't gonna come outta the same economic system that created racism as a proxy to protect the rich. I'm just tryna redirect the black diaspora's revolutionary potential from the direction of black capitalism to black socialism.

You deserve to be gulaged & shot against the wall you pathetic waste of space. Even if you're trolling all you deserve in the coming revolution is the guillotine. Good riddance you fucking retarded reactionary

I'm a fellow prole like everyone else and I'm just saying what me and my fellow friends are saying.

Indian chefs are fucking horrendous, they are dirty and their food fucking suck.

So yes, proles do fucking care where the food come from, and which race cooks it.

…this is getting too heated, are we?

I'm talking via my normal prole sense, what normal people think.

eww, I think I can smell the moba playtime.

What fast food is served exclusively by white people?

But why not unified - like I see the great things some black nationalists have done like Malcolm X. I can understand the purposes of nationalism up to the point of unifying people but ultimately it seems like a dangerous tool of reaction & division that ultimately has more potential for the failure of socialism. I see some merits in things like pan-africanism & black-power but especially as a white guy I hope we can move to the place where such divisions are irrelevant & we can unite simply as the international proletariat.

"What normal people think" Listen I know & am around plenty of fellow proles all the time & absolutely none of them think the way you do. You must've been traumatized by an Indian guy or something because you have a completely irrational and inaccurate view of the world mate. Sorry you haven't been able to grow up yet.

Why do you type like a retard, spade?

This is true. School segregation in the USA is most prevalent not in the south, where integration was a success, but in the north because better off blacks didn't want their children going to school with "those people".

Why do you sound like a retarded white supremacist who deserves the wall?

Because it triggers idpolers like afroplasm.

I have never been traumatized by an Indian nor have I ever eaten fast food prepared by an exclusive white workforce.

I mean I do see the merit in fighting idpol but imo it's not worth it to venture into outright reaction.

Sounds like you've never left the front door - likely your parents but a retardlock on it.

OK, user, I guess you have some very open-minded people, because my side watch the shit out of black people on the train, indian/chink chefs and doctors, basically indian anything.

It's not reaction. I don't hate blacks. I just like calling niggers like afroplasm porch monkeys.

Can you name a fast food exclusively prepared by white people or not?

no john, you are the idpol

My local taco bell tbqfh

My local McDonalds - I live in a very white area. And not all shitty white food is contained to fast food - I've been to people's houses & white sit down restaurants with awful food. I hate to continue this though because harping on some imaginary chef-spookman & using that as an excuse for divisionary racism has to be one of the most retarded conversations I've had in a long time.

I mean as long as you aren't *actually* racist & are a comrade. Just be vigilant - it's a fine line that's easy to slip through if you don't think about what you say & do.

Sounds stupid tbh

Are all taco bells exclusive staffed by white people? And is taco bell not a disgusting corporate franchise that serves a uniform biomatter menu it calls food?

I never thought I'd see anything more pathetic than an alt-rightshit but here it is; someone LARPing as an alt-rightshit.

Cuz not everybody wants to align with the black proletariat in the same way they wanna align with others. Just cuz I say I support workers worldwide no matter what colour they are don't mean judging by this thread alone that half of Holla Forums would support people like me.

See
Replace taco bell with mcdonalds.

This one is fagnugget.
Name a single fast food place that isn't.

That's why you become an anarchist.

I cannot, it is all shit. Which is why I object to it being blamed on a specific ethnic group.

Ain't they kinda milk toast? I think you need some sorta government/vanguard party to make sure the old capitalist caste system dies and stays dead for the foreseeable future.

I understand your hesitation to an extent - but I don't think that the current state of things is any reason to just give up on intimate race relations. TBH for the most part outside of hives like leftypol & pol I don't think race relations are as bad atm - obviously they are still far *far* from ideal but it's important to realize a lot of irrationality has been exacerbated by reactionary forces in the liberal & conservative forces. A whole lot of proles in the real world are very open to close race relations - lots of people I know (I mean myself included - I have plenty of good friends of different races) would absolutely support proles of all races. I wouldn't judge the entire proletariat by some retards on a niche internet board like this.

It's stupid until you have diarhea from eating in an indian restaurant.

I think you need to read a book and get your GED before you tell others how to do things.

You really aren't worth talking to are you

I'll say the same thing about products made in china.


Many anarchists support a form of government and even a revolutionary army that suppresses counter-revolution. Forcing a bunch of different communities under one central authority in an attempt to stop the capitalists though, is something anarchists generally don't think is useful for doing that.


What kind of bourgeois sorcery is this? If you don't have the official paperwork required to work most jobs, they can't make ya work.

That might have something to do with the fact that you're a racist idpoler.

They will when he inevitably goes to prison.

I never said anything about Chinese products.

Someone did.

I went to a school that was 99% black and they served the same school lunches as the 99% white school I went to. A la carte lunches started when I was a senior in HS.

Marxist-Leninist-Pan-Africanism's only really necessary when you put yourself in the shoes of black people in America in my opinion though. Their history and current situation's a lot different to blacks in say Belgium, The Netherland, France or The UK cuz blacks here arrived after the 60s and got a fresh start as immigrants from The Caribbean and Africa. There's no history of slavery, Jim Crow, mass incarceration, housing discrimination etcetera to create massive wealth inequality between the races so it's a lot easier to unite based on class here. Not to mention I think generally there's less racism on a personal level in Europe than there is in Burgerland or anywhere else in North or South America even if you got people like Carl From Swindon who won't shut up bout how "teh Moose-lambs r destroying western civilization", but still I'm sympathetic towards the Black-American struggle cuz I feel like a little of that inadvertently affects blacks worldwide cuz of America's global media monopoly.

FTFY

What bout a system of labour vouchers to compensate the workers though? Who'd enforce that? Who'd make sure you only get paid if you put in a certain number of hours a week to maintain society and people don't get away with doing objectively bullshit work for a living like feeding ducks in the park or playing videogames?

Presumably jobs would already be allocated inside the system that plans the economy and those workers that are put in that role would receive the labor vouchers generated under that system. No person has to do it by hand. Presumably there would be no duck-feeder position required by the system.

Are you okay? Do you need to talk? I see this just often enough to believe it's real and not fake. Do we all need to have an annil intervention?

Labour vouchers are unnecessary unless you've reached a point of scarcity where theft and riots are likely. When I was an ancom I'd argue for a full gift economy. I'd say that people shouldn't even be forced to work for a living because that's an impossibility under communism and if we structure our transitional society in a way that makes it directly incompatible with socialism, it just may never reach socialism, that and labour fetishism is dangerous and creates things like all these unnecessary busywork jobs under capitalism.


lel, fuck outta here with your casual shit

Gee, I wonder why this thread got derailed

It wasn't the government, it was retards.

Different retards.

All of third-wave feminism and tranny gender-trending is a woman hateric charade. It's men essentializing feminine stereotypes for laughs (gays) or for sexual gratification (transbros)

There are a buncha jobs that I can't see getting done any other way though like sewage maintenance. Shit like that ain't exactly something a man can get outta bed to do thinking bout how fulfilling it is to tread round in people's shit. I think till robots can do them typa jobs there should be some sorta state-distributed incentive for people to do them or else they won't get done.

Reminder that posts like this are acceptable but making fun of Assad isn't

Their local commune could offer anyone who volunteers to do a dirty job like that for the month or whatever earlier dibs on certain limited items.
or everyone could manage their own waste like RV owners.

What about issuing them a gf?

Not me. My point was that fast food is garbage regardless of who prepares it.

It might be their obnoxiously busybody-like social attitudes. Everybody is always up in everybody's shit, which elevates the collective at the price of individuality.

May god forgive me

The reason liberals do this is because it really is a weakness of the left and it really causes lumpenproles to question the lefts motivation. I'm sure crying about more will totally not make it look like liberals are right.

You can't be this retarded can you?
Pale skin was preferred because it was a signifier of affluence and wealth. Just as a tan is today.

I regret making this thread lol

I think you meant to say "nadir".


You know how we are infested with trolls. If you fall for it and think this is Holla Forums itself being reactionary, the troll succeeds.

really gets my noggin joggin

Okay, now we reached peak idpol.

I mean, if all we have to go off is that title, then I don't see the problem in analyzing why people do or don't sleep with various types of people.
It doesn't look like it's saying "force people to fuck these people", it's just asking a question.

inb4 I get misinterpreted.
I just mean post something more weighty, like the first paragraph.

It's all shit.

vice.com/en_us/article/wjq99z/why-cant-my-famous-gender-nonconforming-friends-get-laid

How long until liberals are calling of state supported gf/bfs for various splintered sexual minorities?

I would say there's a lot of idpol on this thread, burning appears to be coming from low key Holla Forumsyps bitching about Indian restaurants. Speak of the devil, Holla Forums is peak idpol

I'm reading the article right now just to look for when they say "force people to have sex with us", because that's the implication you wanted and, if I find it I'll let you know.

Literally no one here thought that.

Jesus christ that article is boring and tedious and dry and reads like a blog. I didn't finish it.


Oh yeah?
This faggot implied that's the slippery slope we're on.

I've been checking out her Twitter feed. It's full of shit like "The election is still about center-right politics. Take that Bernie cultists." I even found one guy who thinks that socialism and capitalism would be equally oppressive to black people because "Socialist or not, they're both run by white men." Damn this Earth to the deepest pit of hell.

How? Socialism in a black community would be ran by black men and women.
We need more people out there explaining this stuff.

user, that's what we call "a joke".


Pic related.

It's what we call masked ideology, actually.

no it's called a joke

Nothing exists in a vacuum fam

Trying to explain this shit to brazenly proud center-right liberals is about as productive as Don Quixote fighting windmills. We're talking about people who have lived their entire lives in the center-right bubble. Bernie Sanders is extremist to these ass pickers ffs. In fact, Don Quixote fighting windmills is a better state of affairs than this political climate because at least THAT fucking book has an ending.

I mean, as long as class consciousness is an important part of your ideology you have to try, right? If not through direct confrontation then through the same means they're brainwashed originally, flashy easily digestible tidbits put on screens with visual aids. I never see that, badmouse is the closest I've found to that and he's still got that aesthetic and cheapness that makes him only appeal to people who were already interested.