BO going full retard

They are, they are indescriminate terror weapons and this doesnt change if you use them in an anti imperialist war or not. Its plainly visible that in the war against ISIS targeted bombs are better than untargeted bombs. They cause objectivly less civilian damage.

Nothing about that post constitutes supporting the US, only their displeasure with unguided ordnance and preference towards guided ones. This in know way equates with support of the US purely because they use guided missles. If he had said explicitly that, then you would have a point but you don't. I mean ffs, are you and I even reading the same thing?

I was referring to the poster, not sure if that was clear

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She can ban the revolutionary.

But she can never ban the dynamic IP address.

One of those posts straight up denounces the US' use of not-barrel-bombs as being no better than Assad's use of barrel bombs. I don't see how Assad is getting singled out for criticism here, all anyone is saying is that bombing civilians is bad and I would hope that's something we can all agree on.

bravo BO

what are you on about?
Ireland and Palestine are very much tied together. To the extent that loyalists fly Israeli flags.

tbqh Holla Forums is pretty woke on the Anglo Question and anyone I've encountered that isn't is themselves an Anglo.

This. This. This.

I still don't understand the YPG=Imperialism meme. Can't Russia also be imperialist ?

It's because tankies are still clinging onto 20th century geopolitics that dictate whatever is pro-Russia and anti-America is the socialist option while are current situation has more in common with 19th century politics of multiple competing imperialist blocs.

The Corbyn thread is full of unironic support for the IRA.

Such as

Sage for cointelpro

The ypg have explicitly allied themselves with Saudi Arabia and are actively working with US special forces and taking US weapons and material.

What about that doesn't sound like allying with imperialists

The Soviet Union allied with imperialists during WW2 as well. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy has to become your ally… Ideoligical purity doesn't help you in a war, you know?

Rojava has not explicitly allied themselves with Saudi Arabia, they just offered cooperation with Saudi arabia against their colonising arch enemy Turkey. In anyway what geopolitical positions one takes shouldnt be ground for a ban.

space for BO

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No only people Anarchists like

My bad I mean "just establishing good relations" with Saudi Arabia

reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/4z7dik/ypg_is_establishing_good_relationship_with/

This is just Elijah talking bullshit as usual. There hasnt been any sign of actual cooperation till yet. And even if that happens(Convincing the Sanadid tribe of doing that will be hard, and their head is copresident of Cizre Canton) its no different from PKK accepting Syrian help before to deal with Turkey.

BO has gone full fucking retard since the hack. They used to have jokes and troll Holla Forums with us but recently they've just been a stuck up cunt that makes demands nobody wants but xirself and has a fucking tantrum when everyone disrespects them.

Go neck yourself BO you fucking mongoloid.

BO is mentally ill, what do you expect?

Come on, we all support Ireland here. We just don't talk about it that much because it goes without saying.

Traps are fascist.

What else is new?

I don't think anyone here can seriously oppose the PKK or claim it "equals imperialism" since they are opposing Turkey which is an imperialist collaborator and a NATO member themselves and they have been opposed and subverted by the US. The difference is that the SDF and the YPG, are opposing Syria with US support.

Absolutely, and I am sure the reactionary Russian bourgeoisie would like nothing more then that. The question is: can Russia successfully enforce an independent imperialist policy? Remember that the West is at least 30x richer then Russia and way more powerful, without Western support which they currently don't have any imperialist actions of Russia are likely doomed to failure, that is they won't be meaningfully successful imperialists.

I don't think it's the same person. Previously BO used to joke about pic related and "imperialism" was never a bannable offense until recently with support for YPG being the majority position of the board.

Yes, in fact that's what they're arguably doing in Syria now by protecting their place in the European oil market. They can't match the west's reach, but they're certainly able to influence smaller states in a client state manner.

What makes you think that what is going in Syria is a success? That they are even in the position that they need to desperately protect their existing place demonstrates the extent of their weakness and impotence at present. Even then its still not certain that Russia will succeed since the war is still ongoing.

Of course it's un-ironic. What kind of cunt would only ironically support the brave 'RA lads?

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Yeah, the only thing that makes me doubt it is that nobody has even made a shitpost saying that they are the BO and have been deposed since.

why must some people on the left must ruin everything?

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Like poetry

Why did Hotwheels never implement a way for the users to usurp the mods in dire times?

1. The same people that support palestine support ireland
2. There isn't a single person here, including you, that wouldn't rather be irish than palestinian given the option, so stop being a disingenuous faggot

BO y u do dis

I actually have no problems with any of those bans.

KEK he deleted the thread where I posed how his comrades get treated in Best Korea, for those who missed it here you go.

Good for you reddit.

If the BO is banning people for differing opinions on Syria, let me get banned then.

I support the YPG, YPJ, SDF, and Rojava because the territory under their control is socialist. Syria is not in any socialist. Furthermore while they receive aid from an imperialist superpower, it doesn't mean they are a puppet of such power. Let's look at the USSR, oh, it received aid from the capitalist west? It's an imperialist puppet state then.

Many times have anarchist, socialist or communist revolution or states have received aid from capitalists, for it was the better of the two evils to them.

kill me now tbh

My fucking God. You won't get banned for supporting the YPG. People who are obvious shills for imperialism are getting banned, like saying "I want Trump to nuke Syria so Rojava can expand". God you guys are such crybabies its insufferable.

Whether Russia's attempts at imperialism are successful or not is irrelevant to the fact that they are attempting imperialism by using Syria as a client state to protect their share of the oil market. Russia should not get a pass on their imperialism because they are smaller than the US, nor should China for their actions in Africa for that matter.

you bout to get banned, nigga

All of the Holla Forums bans on that image were by a Board Volunteer, not the BO.

He did, it's called "New board"

What share on their oil market? Russias motivation for protecting Syria sovereignty is that they want to stop the USA from established the Qatar-Turkey pipeline which would destroy their gas exports to Europe.

I think im shadow banned or some shit. Reply to me guise so I know the truth. This is what happens when FUCKING TANKIES TAKE OVER. AND THEY FUCKING WONDER WHY ORWELL RATTED OUT FUCKING TANKIES

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Its ok Ill juest reset my router

Fuck off

Isn't it lunchtime?

BO is a tankie tho confirmed m8 you cant deny

Well, so far my experiment hasn't gotten me banned, so you're right, a bunch of people are cry babies.

You've just answered your own question.

I'm most annoyed at the shitposts being banned and deleted when a lot of them were pretty funny.

A "pass on their imperialism"? What do you want a moral denunciation? A strongly worded letter? All we can do is use an objective scientific analysis of the material conditions to determine what will be successful.

Also all the mods are offline and it sometimes takes a few hours to get banned for it

the OP of this thread has no post history before or after making this thread.
that activates your almonds

Hence why I said "So far".

Could have cleared his cookies and reset his router for all you know.

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Im with you comrade

Im not out after the volunteers, some nigger has been abusing power on some fucking level and we as posters on a leftist board have a fair say in the memes of production.

probably using a different IP to avoid getting their main banned, or have been banned and changed IP

this is a reddit tier non argument btw, just the same as /r/socialism during their regular purges

So what? He never shows up here, he has board volunteers banning people left and right.

How are their own gas exports to Europe the same as exploitation of gas from the Middle East through US an its proxies? The fuck?

Holla Forums's run by a nigger and a turkroach
even more poetic

The IRA were and are scum who murdered innocent people for mostly religious reasons, the topic of a united Ireland was not the base for most of their support but rather killing Protestants and getting revenge on retaliation. The IRA are no more deserving of your support than the Taliban or ISIS are.

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I don't agree with either of those posts but simply banning them seems silly, its better to actually refute what they're saying. For fuck's sake, we regularly allow debate with straight up Holla Forumsyps for the sake of showing them the flaws in their ideology but now people are getting banned for differences in opinion which are extremely minor in comparison.

Half of those bans for "imperialism" were simply people making smartass remarks

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The mods are controlled opposition Bolsheviks. I only post here in hopes to reaching people before they quasi-fascists get their claws in them.

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ffs im gonna drink one last beer and pass out, or go buy more speed.

We should do something other than fight over Ignorant shit. There is shilling here on both sides and If Im guilty at all for any then fuck it, no war but class war

Yes, but not by the BO and certainly not only pro-YPG posters but a whole lot of tankies as well.

Place is a shit because board volunteers go rampant, and I'd say we ally each against this, but apperently I'm just a red fascist.

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8ch.net/bans.html m8 the BO is the anti-imperialist crusader

okay now i get this thread, BO is being a retard for banning everyone.
We need a purge

An end to reddit spacing would be nice. I'd settle for not getting banned for saying that Assad is a neoliberal we shouldn't support regardless of geopolitics though.

Your "objective scientific analysis" always seems to indicate that we should support anyone who rubbed the US the wrong way, regardless of policy. That's absolutely retarded and I'm not getting out of my armchair to cheerlead for liberals.

They're using Syria as a proxy to defend their interests, so Syrians get butchered to defend Russian interests. A client state relationship is imperialism.

Found the Anglo

Just wow. Syrians are fighting not to get beheaded by moderate islamists, who are mostly foreign mercenaries. Russias interest is to have an independent block-free Syrian state. The mental acrobatics you have to do to have such a stance…

You are making unwarranted extrapolations.

You make any acrobatics I could pull off look amateuristic.

Then pray tell, what does your "objective scientific analysis" reccomend? If it's supporting a particular brand of liberalism because an opposing liberal bloc opposes it, color me shocked.

Literally nothing, scientific analysis doesn't lead to recommendations.

Something it shares with the content of your posts.

As opposed to your posts which are full of emotionalisms and biased language I take an objective stance.

Fucking hell. I also wasn't claiming that YPG fighting ISIS is doing so for American interest. That's not the problem I have with them.

Again double standards and complete ignorance and fanatic apologism.

Am I shadow banned? Get fucked, CIA!

These bans are still active, a few others I think allready got recinded, it really seems like only the BO is the problem.

Syria doesn't need to be fighting on explicitly Russian interests for Russia to be an imperialist actor in the region. What's needed is that Russia act in such a way as to benefit from the Syrian conflict and to use Syria as a puppet state/client state. This is exactly what's happening. There are plenty of reasons to be critical of Assad's regime, but we don't need to say that Syrian resistance against ISIS somehow makes them complicit in their own domination by Russia.

If you look at the ban history or the Moderator feedback thread, you see that loads of tankies got banned by board volunteers for posts that aren't even provocative. Selective perception much? SAD!

Fuck off back to reddit with your le rationalman faggotry.

Yes, your problem is that instead of taking aid from just Syria and Russia that they are accepting US assistance. As if they should take the indignation of comfy westerners against the US plans for Syria instead of using whatever aid they can do Turkroaches don't slaughter them.

And that makes these bans ok?

But that's not what imperialism is. How are the Russians extracting wealth/surplus from Syria? Having aligned interests doesn't mean imperialism, the same way it doesn't for the USSR to get trucks from the US in WWII. Again, show me, concretely, with sources where Russia has imperialist plans for Syria following the leninist definition. Also, read the article I posted in the other thread:

links.org.au/node/4629

How is the USA extracting ressources from Syria atm?

Also Russia is selling food stuff and to Syria and has recently gotten contracts on ressource exploitation.

Jesus christ

Source?

That second ban is well deserved.

Le gumfderbil wezdernur mahaymet

Again, you're missing the point. It's not that they are accepting weapons, it's that they are actively furthering US imperialist agenda by carving up Syria. I was still defending Rojava when they got weapons from the US.

None of these bans are okay. They are all retarded. But all I want is a fair approach to the issue, that MLs are just as a affected by it than anarchists or leftcoms. I want us to have a united stance against the power-tripping board volunteers and not squabble over sectarian infighting. Can you not accept that some people have a different analysis on the Rojava issue? Or are you so emotionally invested with them that you can't tolerate even gentle dissent?

You deserved to get banned gaylord
Plus, if you're just going to evade it anyway what do you care

1.) Russia makes especially cheap prices to their allies. They aren't making a profit. Selling food to a war torn country isn't the same as involuntary wealth extraction
2.) US wants Syria to cease to exist and want a potential successor state to be a transit country for a pipeline. That is wealth extraction from the NG field between Qatar and Iran and having a transit right being yielded on a silver platter is also a form of value extraction

Read the article or formulate a better definition

You know the report function exists, right? Have you ever thought for even a single second that the volunteers aren't just devil may care lone wolf gunmen and are responding to things posters report and complain about?

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Well then I don't need humans to be moderators, we could as well just have a software do the bans based on the number of reports, like YouTube.

Don't bullshit, we're all in armchairs here.

As opposed to Russia's imperialist agenda of establishing a client state relationship and using Syria's military to ensure their oil sales aren't disturbed by another porky. They are all porkies here, there isn't a side to take that does not support capitalism.

I agree tbh, but I wanted to recenter discussion on board policy instead of Leninist thinking its about their conception of antiimperialists.

The only problem I had with Leninists and MLs and Maoists until rectly was that they occasionally came into the rojava thread with badly argued points, but leftcoms also did that and we can deal with that by arguing our points without threatening the other side with bans. I only have a problem with making your position on imperialism the enforced board line because it assumes a lot we just dont know yet. For example the claim that SDF helps to carve up Syria, where I would argue that it actually helps to unite it again by offering sensible solutions(federalism) and being open to negotiations. In fact they surpress the KDP-S which is the main opposition and is way more Kurdish nationalist and anti-arab.

My main problem is that the BO is enforcing a specific position on Syria, an extremely complex conflict where leftists have taken a huge variety of positions and where everything is shades of grey and hard to understand and analyse.

I didnt get banned for these.

alaraby.co.uk/english/indepth/2016/2/15/assad-preparing-to-handover-syrias-energy-sector-to-russia
oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/As-Conflict-Rages-On-Russia-Lands-Oil-Deals-In-Syria.html
sputniknews.com/business/201704211052858550-syria-russia-oil-gas/

There where also posts on twitter about private security businesses making 5 year deals with Assad to protect and explout ressources in the desert.

I cant judge if this is imperialism in the unequal trade defition but its capitalism so I highly doubt Russia didnt press their advantage.

kys tranny nigger

Buh ermcherrrrrrrs

no it's just the "EU gave us 70 years of peace" meme. btw nobody in here buys it.

I am posting from my mobile phone which I use very often to post here, do you have a problem with mobile users?

Not oil sales, gas exports to Europe. Also, the proposition of a new Syrian constitution coming from Moscow is not at all like a client state. They know very well the Syrian people support them as they have liberated their country. If they really were interested in a client state they could just leave Assad in power, because he's pretty much at their mercy.

What happened?

But shouldn't we know at this point that the BO is just full of hot air? She never actually shows up here that often, she banned like two guys who were overly provocative (and probably wasn't seeing an example of a new policy, but was probably just trolling them). The board volunteers however, who currently seem to have an internal war going on between MLs and anarchists, are creating an atmosphere of hate and distrust, and the posters have to pay the price for it.

This highly debatable, many people there appreciate the Russians for keeping the militia jungle in the gov areas somewhat in check, but this is a genuine civil war to a degree and bad blood is flowing on all sides. There are no united syrian people at this moment.

bo decided to ban "imperialism"; her definition of it is bullshit.

But you wouldn't deny that the SAA and pro-Assad militias are ten times more Syrian than Al-Nusra and the like? They have an insane number of foreign mercenaries in their ranks. Also every Syrian I talked to was heavily pro-Assad, even if they think he isn't perfect.

in Ireland, you can be convicted of possession of CP if one of the adult performers in your porn is made to appear as if they were a child

What the fuck are you talking about

No avoiding it, might aw well amke yourself comfy ijstead of flaggelation.

Yes and the burger "democracy" pushed in the middle east isn't imperialism because muh freedoms.

BO got into an argument with supporters of the Kurds in Syria and banned some fags for supporting US proxies and trying to paint Assad as more evil than the US for using barrel bombs.

Hell, Holla Forums even has ads for VPNs. The kind of person that visits a place like Holla Forums probably uses or is interested in a VPN service.

US have been openly supporting islamists until recently, how is this not a difference? Look at the Russian proposal which also ain't gonna be forced on Syria, but will be organically conducted via referendum. The US empire building always includes a regime change, this was the case in all the countries in which they intervened.

Look at the ban list maybe?

Personally I would be satisfied with BO saying that she will stop banning people for "imperialism", "minimizing imperialism" and "imperialist propaganda", I rarely post controversial agressive stuff outside of shitposting threads so I never came into conflict with the volunteers.

I think the best solution for Syria would be a total defeat of the rebels in a joint SDF-SAA offensive to build trust for a deal where atleast autonomy for the north and at best federalisation happens. But I also think that SDF accepting US help and being ready to fight the SAA if necessary is a good thing. Further I think that its possible that the USA plays a productive role in a peace deal between gov and SDF because they(the USA is very devided on Syria so things could still go either way) evidently dont want regime change, just (they could have done this for years but didnt, they scaled back support for the rebels and accepted SAA taking LERV) want to maintain a role in Syria. They also oppose Iran and might even find common ground on that with Russia.

I have also talked with pro rebel Syrians and while their political opinions are even less savory for me than the pro gov Syrians I have talked to their concerns and fears are reasonable. Family members have been visciously killed on all sides and society is devided. Although more and more former pro rebel people just want peace and I think we should support that. Lasting peace in Syria is the main goal and I dont care if USA plays a role in achieving that or not as long as it happens.

I would have one but Im not putting my debit card down for a vpn.

The bo is a girl?

This tbqh. The BO took a position that they didn't like, got banned, then you have people antagonizing her who, surprise, got banned.

Now you have polintelpro stirring shit about it like it's the end of the fucking world.

what does that have to do with imperialism

BO threatend bans on all people not agreeing with her stance on imperialism, that is what happend. And if she just was anoyed then she should have made that clear.

just saying Ireland is shite m8

Also how the fuck was I suposto know BO was a grill, there are no grills on the internet you know.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with US military intervention in foreign countries.

I'm looking at it right now and the last ban was hours ago, so why don't you show me what you're talking about.

Yeah it's true, us Anglos regularly raze the homes of the Norn Irish and drop bombs on them, it's basically apartheid

Don't be like these guys

The BO should be purged.

yeah tits or gtfo

Uhh what was the drama yesterday?

ban deserved

She doesn't have any. I recommend comrade Evalion for BO.

Bo banned some fags and a bunch of autists are butthurt about it

I have to agree.
I think a formal vote on her removal, followed by a vote on who to replace her with would be best.

Best post in the thread so far.
Space is literally the only viable candidate for being the new BO.

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You can read more about it here

this needs a wordfilter, preferably smart bomb

"Girl" (male)

This a joke on the level of gulag jokes.

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shitpost is coming in loud n clear comrade!

In case you didn't realize there's a huge thread on 7chan saying how thier raiding us, and purposely posting nonsensical shit, and trolling to fuck with Holla Forums, and that they paid off BO

fuck off Langley

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I honestly, welcome this new change, and hope this board continues its purges and gulagings

REMINDER
strawpoll.me/13312433/r
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7chan still exists?

Oh you're right this clinches it board owner has to go

make your own poll then.

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You can't just take a mindset unalike yours, tack hit words like racist on it, and then say "under the guise" of their actual motivations.

Oh yeah all these people are soo just apologizing for imperialism. They weren't maybe, confused and asking for clarification?

Fuck, I was making fun of an ancap, disregard flag.

Fuck, I was making fun of an ancap, disregard flag.