So has BO fuckbag backed down yet? Can I talk about our BIGGEST REPRESENTATIVES ON EARTH freely yet?

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Luckily BO is only on here rarely so thankfully we might not have to worry about being smothered by his faggotry

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you're all imperialists

It will end when BO stops being a fucking meme, look at the ban list.

No John. You are the Imperialists

yes but the mods are his drones and do what he tells them to and they follow out of fear they'll lose their sweet mod spot.

Not really from what I've seen. Mods pretty much do whatever they want to on a whim. BO doesn't pay attention 90% of the time

Yeah BO doesnt seem to be able to convince the other mods, but she has been on this trip for a while now. So I dont think she will come to her senses anytime soon.

Someone remake this meme with "jesus christ how imperialist"

knowyourmeme.com/photos/915000-jesus-christ-how-horrifying

sounds pretty much like Holla Forums tbh

Gimp is free and easy to use. Why not learn to make memes yourself?

this is what anarkiddies actually believe

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PPG, who actually fought there, described it as a "Stalinist State" without even personal property. So what they hell are you talking about.

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sounds pretty much like Holla Forums tbh

What kind of implication are you making? Does everybody has to suck Putins dick when you critisize YPGs open collaboration with the main imperialist power? That's whatabaoutism. It is crystal clear that the US and Russia have both very different plans for Syria, and it's absolutely retarded to pretend that this is not the case.

Honestly it is just against every principle of international solidarity to completely throw the Syrian proletariat under the bus just you can have your little buffer state with a council system. Communist Parties of Syria are both very cozy with Assad, for a good reason. This completely infantile behavior of pretending US imperialism doesn't exist is cancerous, it's like the first time Anarkiddies became a geopolitical player, and you turn out to be more uncritical zealots as every tankie. And by the way, a lot of tankies have been banned as well, by anarchist mods, so please stop crying its disingenuous.

No one does this.

Its open knowledge that the USA has no current plan for Syria and is strategically stuck right now.

No one does this, but apparently not sharing views on how important american imperialism has to be in our analysis is now bannable as "minimizing imperialism"

Rojava is not anarchist, and comparing the support for Rojava with the open enforcement of pro Assad positions now happening on this board is disingenous.

I support this post

Because they are Stalinist rats and like all ML parties, they are willing to sacrifice the proletariat and ally themselves with reactionaries to save their worthless skin and gain power.

Yes, clearly the dictator who strengthens capitalism in the region and may well use chemical weapons on them is what the Syrian proletariat needs. Forget revolution and all that boring shit. International solidarity means upholding every tinpot dictator that rubbed the US the wrong way.

I'm not saying anyone who's critical of the YPG is a Putinshill. But you sure as hell would get that impression from looking at BO's posts and her supporters.
Which no one is doing. What is happening is tankies are pretending Russian imperialism doesn't exist and that Assad isn't a pawn for that in much the same way the YPG are probably going to become a pawn for America.

I'm not an anarchist and I didn't even say anything about bans. I just made a comment on how hypocritical all the tankies are being about this.

The very same could be said for the YPG and their collaboration with imperialism. Double standards my friend, and again an overly emotional reaction filled with ad hominem.

2 Day, "Muh it's Imperalisme War" is still going on, i write to you from my comfy bunker never forget == DEATH TO THE ENEMY OF THE WORKERS ! ==

DEATH TO THE ENEMY OF THE WORKERS !

Im still banned so no.
Unless this goes through.

Hm, will ya look at that.

Please don't talk that way about anti-imperialist Russia.

Still doesn't change my point, whatever your opinion on the YPG is. ML parties have been opportunist since always, helping the capitalist system with their support and participation in bourgeois democratic nationalist governments. Siding with a butcher like Assad isn't shocking at all.

Whats the link to the logs again?

You aren't a Putin shill if you pointing out the fact that Russia doesn't not have plans to balkanize Syria or engage in relevant net extraction from the Middle East. They might have in the future, but that is irrelevant. They aren't doing it now, and their proposal for a new Syrian constitution is a very federal and democratic one, which doesn't resemble unconditional support for Assad. Again, nobody would mind your support for YPG, if you didn't pretend all this wouldn't be true or doesn't exist. As I said, that's infantile. I'm a tankie and I have been supporting Rojava and passionately defending in in front of non-leftists over and over but when I have the USA having a literal base on their territory, when they are flirting heavily with Saudi-Arabia which currently genocides the Yemenites, and annexing primarily Arab terroritory, having the CIA coordinating with them - at some point I draw a line, I wouldn't have supported the Falange in Spain either (and they also had worker control). And that line I drew when they allied with Saudi-Arabia, that's where I can not genuinely support them as a faction anymore. You could just accept that instead of being so extremely aggrevated by the fact tankies actually have principles and don't just engage in hyper-utilitarianism.

MLs betraying proletarian interests to accumulate power at the hands of the bureaucrat class and YPG making strategic alliances in a open way with no clear way forward are two very different things. This is not at all a fair comparison.

Boardowner

I was wondering why my ban is lifted, yet you still seem to ban people for "imperialism". Whats your reasoning?

open war*

But that's literally the Putinshill party line.

Christ, you know why nobody likes you guys? You are always extremely moralizing and pretend you have the moral highground and are some pure, flawless knights of unspoiled leftism. Then I see you guys in real life and my sides leave the orbit.

Sorry gomrade :DD I will flagellate myself for imperialsplaining and not deepthroating gomrade Putin's delicious soviet benis :DDD

Okay, can I call you a Trump shill then? Literal Facebook tier

*yawn* And smashies are blue-haired dykes that beat up trashcans are become landpirates during a revolution.

See? I can do the same thing. You are an obstacle to having a serious discretion with your vile accusations, it's like you want to widen the rift between us.

The rift between leftists and tankies should be widened infinitely and then tankies should be thrown into it.

Quod erat demonstrandum

Not my comrade

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Communism is amoral. Not allowing yourself to become part of the bourgeois political system and fooling, patronising and ultimately betraying the proletariat isn't moralism. The same can't be said for Sovietboos, opportunists and petit bourgeois 'revolutionaries'. The fact that you lot are crying about 'Syria's national sovereignty', 'international law' and 'democracy', even when talking to other leftists, is laughable. So much for the dangerous, principled and revolutionary left.
As opposed to what? Moralist social democratic guard dogs of the capitalist system?

The kurds can only because ethnically neutral BY being ethnic-centered, because if they were going "no war but the class war!" everyone would for good reason think it was just an excuse for kurdish chauvinism. By actively supporting other ethnic groups establishing their own parties and armies, they show it not to be the case, and the SDF/TEVDEM can be genuinely non-ethnic in character.

what if this is all just a ruse to ignite discussion about american involvement in syria, and no one is really getting banned

People are doing this. And they are getting banned for it as they deserve.

Wow what a sincere argument the guy wielded against me. The accusation of opportunism is especially funny since the Democratic Confederalism is revisionist as fuck.

Communism is ammoral, then why do you continue to make moral implications about my integrity? We obviously differentiate ourselves in our analysis, but instead of engaging with it you make a personal attack based on bullshit. You claim to be a leftist but you conveniently use anti-communist propaganda talking points to further your own agenda.

Also, I'd like to say that up to this point, more tankies have been banned by anarchist mods than the other way around (since the whole drama started). Holla Forums has also turned into a leftcom/anarchist since a year. So you can give up on your constant victim stance. Nobody is going to kronstadt you.

hahaha what

No it isn't because it isn't Marxist and can't be revionist any more than other Anarchist tendencies can be. Stop repeating shit you haven't bothered to understand and read a god damn book, preferably Marx.

I'm just pointing out that most of the bans were against MLs. I'm not taking on a victim stance and don't have 4 threads with +200 replies getting bumped because of some stupid spooky persecution complex because BO showed up drunk at night saying some incoherent stuff (meanwhile board volunteers are actively purging voices critical of the YPG).

Then it's not socialist at all because it's utopian and they said they aren't going to abolish private property and entrepreneurship - which means no reason to hold them up like this. Maybe go to /liberty/?

>Marxist-Leninist theory is the only true™ form of leftism
Fuckin tankies

Materialism isn't just exclusive to Marxism-Leninism. I mean according to you Marx wasn't a leftist, so there is that.

Read Marx.

So when are we going to start banning people who support these imperialist lapdogs?

Not an argument. Your buzzwords from your leftcom historical revisionism 101 class don't work on me.

Dumb and proud again billy? Read a book. Or start with this article, that uses Lenins analysis:

links.org.au/node/4629

More like according to you

You're a tankie, that goes without saying

And he was baffled by this complex dialectical historical analysis

Read Marx.

The USSR didn't collapse, it was deliberately dismantled.

USSR failed because oil prices dropped, not because revisionist infiltrators decided that lazy fairy capitalism was better than sovdem capitalism. Quit being a nostalgia addicted faggot and read Bordiga.

Holy shit. You know even Cuba and Korea are still arround facing an entire capitalist world that wants to nuke them without blinking. Obviously ML policies work.

Cuba and Best Korea are heavily revisionist by bunkerman standards, with Best Korea explicitly rejecting Marxism. And if your idea of success is merely surviving as an isolated island with good health care or a tiny strip of land supported by the chinese, then you're a retard.

I'm not a Hoxhaist and the rejection of Marx is obviously shit but they haven't fundamentally changed their economic policies which aren't really that revisionist. Also the trade surplus with China makes up not even 5% of their GDP in the DPRK. Joke.

Well if you can outright reject Marx and still not change much, then they were revisionist from inception.

Without China shielding them they would have had their shit kicked in a while ago and we'd have a singular neoliberal Korea instead of half neoliberal half national capitalist Korea.

Debatable. China recently heavily sanctioned them, they are mildly taking part in the economic terrorism conducted against the DPRK. The DPRK shows no signs of instability and the fact that they have nukes secures they integrity.

What do you mean? Wether or not you have a Marx stature in your capital doesn't make your policies less based on marxism. If I turn that argument on its head, I could say China is still socialist since they haven't rejected Marx.

At least I'm still pretending, instead of being an edgy liberal.
What anti-communist propaganda?
I'm paid by Judeo-KKKurdish lobies to dismantle socialism in Syria , you found me. When will the NKVD visit me now?

That if a state could reject marxism(-leninism) without changing much, they were revionists of Marx from the start.

get a load of this revisionist

am i doing imperialism right?