Some lefties here hate nazis and fascists more than they hate capitalism

Same shit different name

Of course not

hmmm?

Fascism gets in the way, and is largely so loosely based in ideological ground, no amount of further scrutiny put on it as with Socialism, that implementing it would arguably make things worse, especially given today's proponents of it.

It distracts the working class on ideological grounds, on grounds of identity, and makes the poor loathe the poor, it puts greater focus on the individual in a macro scale problem.

In short, it solves nothing, and will not save you. That's why we hate it. We come with an alternative that's been well thought out for decades and you come back and hope we respect an ideology that's so ill defined academics aren't even sure of its core tenants.

You're getting in our way of organizing the working class to confront the people making our lives worse and worse as years go by, while you feed right out of their hands and divide us and our communities.

Not just that, but you vote for politicians who will do nothing to solve the problems you hope they will.

It's too vague, it's too amorphous, and it could jeopardize the work we're trying to do because you refuse to even acknowledge our legitimacy due to decades of dogma.

Fascism is capital's last line of defense against crisis and communism. I hate fascism because I hate capitalism.

No

[citation needed]
economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2006/09/nazi_privatizat.html

Fascism is against Capitalism, there is not a single element of capitalistic praise on fascist literature. Money is thrown away and put aside for the benefit of the people. Considering any divergence, the simple fact that both fascism and communism reject capitalism puts both on the left by definition. There is not a single reason to associate fascism with capitalism besides practical anti-proletariat reasons

LOL

"Although the Nazi Party election programs supported nationalization of major industries, the Nazi government included a few actual policies of privatization in the 1930s.[53] Between the fiscal years 1934/35 and 1937/38, privatization represented 1.4 percent of the German government's revenues."

Sources on wikipedia

Bel, Germà. "Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany" p 1. ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
Bel, Germà. "Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany". p 11. ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

Irrelevant, anarchism is also on the left and fashies kill them too.

I think you need to actually study Fascism. Learn what it actually is and how it's organized

You can't be fucking serious.

Seriously, anarchists have nothing in common with communists and are closer to capitalists on the long term.

today I learned neofeudalists are leftists lads

Should I do what you didn't do then, my lazy friend? Done already.

Both fascism and capitalism rest on the exploitation of the working class, leftists are against all forms of unjustified hierarchy, if you think capitalism is the only class system that ever existed you should probably stop posting and go read a book

u can NOT be serious like just LMFAO dude imagine actually making this post

Then again most socialists(reformists) embraced capitalism in the form of social democracy.

No, it actually openly speaks against capitalism. The point there was that people associate the two as if fascism praises capitalism at some point and hates it at other moment.

user, please leave

No, it's a completely different system.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

Oh, I get it. You're just baiting.
He sucked porky dick so hard his regime spawned the term "privatization".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization#Etymology

Well imagine my shock
Fascists are some of the most retarded people, thinking you can separate economics from social issues is the pinnacle of ideology

That's not even a Hitler quotes, and he even killed the guy who said it when he purged leftists in the night of the long knives
en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gregor_Strasser

Hi Holla Forums. Liberals are more left wing than reactionaries.

Like I said, over all nationalization was bigger than privatization. Privatization occurred to a few companies who were previously private and weren't able to produce whilst organized by some specific group of state people at the time. The term was introduced by a capitalistic magazine 'The Economist' trying to appropriate Germany's economic success to their crazy capitalist ideology.

If you continue reading, I'm sure you will reach the main text, my friend.

fuck off Holla Forums

I am reading it, have you? so far I haven't seen anything new, fascists banning strikes, the establishment pandering to fascists because the workers are demanding more rights, I really don't know why you linked this page, it does nothing but prove how wrong you are

"An inherent aspect of fascist economies was economic dirigisme,[4] meaning an economy where the government exerts strong directive influence over investment while often subsidizing favorable companies, as opposed to having a merely regulatory role. In general, apart from the nationalizations of many industries, fascist economies were based on private individuals being allowed property and private initiative, but these were contingent upon service to the state.[5]. In an effort to bring about a more productive corporate-worker state under revolutionary syndicalist principles of French Marxist Georges Sorel, fascism turned to economic collaboration of the classes, opposing class struggle. This newly revised approach, which was responding to the theoretical crisis of Marxism, sought to create a productivist”posture where a proletariat of producers would be critical to the conception of revolutionary politics and social revolution."

Good thing state ownership doesn't preclude a capitalist economy.

Lmao

Remind me again which part of this is against capitalism?

The amount of autism is unbearable, do you just cherry pick passages from Wiki pages and conform them to your ideology or what

It's anti-capitalist because MUH STATE.

I think you are cherry picking: "Hitler believed that private ownership was useful in that it encouraged creative competition and technical innovation, but insisted that it had to conform to national interests and be "productive" rather than "parasitical".[191] Private property rights were conditional upon the economic mode of use; if it did not advance Nazi economic goals then the state could nationalise it.[192] Although the Nazis privatised public properties and public services, they also increased economic state control.[193] Under Nazi economics, free competition and self-regulating markets diminished; nevertheless, Hitler's social Darwinist beliefs made him reluctant to entirely disregard business competition and private property as economic engines.[194][195]"

Even land trade was forbidden.

None of that is anti-capitalist.

Again, how is that anti-capitalist and how in the hell does it conform to leftism, even if Hitler were to "nationalize" every industry, you think that because it's the state that's exploiting the workers it suddenly because acceptable under leftist theory? the only "state" that conforms to leftism is one that is run by the workers, and even then you get other leftists screeching at Marxist-Leninists because they still don't trust the council enough

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This is my favorite nazi meme

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Anti-capitalism

Nigga can you even keep reading

It's literally not, wage labor/exploitation are still part of the economy, do you think it has to be lolbertarian level of economic illiteracy for it to be considered capitalism?

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It's literally fascist social democracy LMAO

It's not. It's opposed to classical liberalism. The mystical free market isn't what defines the capitalist mode of production. You seem to be confusing liberal democracy with capitalism.

did you fall the "fascism is left-wing ideology" meme, chud?

Yeah, no I'm sure capitalism is about the money itself, the money itself is evil, mang, that is it!

Fascist were a branch of nationalist authoritarian socialdemocrats, they were procapitalist like every succdem ever.

No. It's about generalized commodity production and wage labor.

Then this is anti-capitalism

No, no, the real evil of capitalism is the jews.
If we get rid of the jews, capitalism will be good again!

Nah. Nazi Germany utilized wage labor (slaves too) and continued to produce for exchange.

You're acting exactly like Patrick in this scene:
youtube.com/watch?v=FPq165j9DgY

Great argument

There are like three anons and a christfag up in this thread proving you wrong and you're still this dense, it's time to stop posting

confirmed doesn't know what you're talking about. that's Asser's quote not hitler's. the Assers was exiled from the nazi party.