Syria poll

Who do you side with and why?

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YPG

They are the most socialistic group out there, despite their nationalistic tendencies. Same cannot be said of the rest. I would support Assad as a good second just for the secularisation and stabilitation of the region.

This, basically tbh

This is retarded, war should not be like a footbal match were you "side" with you prefered team.
You can have more sympathy for one group or other, but making this kind of idealization and "normalization" of war makes no sense.
That shit is bad, thousend of people die every month and here we are , just shitposting about it, like it is really funny,

That's pretty much how it is. If you were Syrian you'd be given that choice.

Yes, but we are not a Syrian so this has not much direct impact in our lifes, and yet still we trivialize it, when we are not there and it seems like an sports match.

No ISIS option?
Socialdemocrats don't now who to vote then

I support YPG.

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I know, but nationalism can lead to shit. Like the DRPK, which went to shit.

Assad

American imperialism is the primary contradiction in this conflict.

YPG of course.

Why can't I suppprt ISIS in their struggle against Kurdish, American, Iranian and Syrian imperialism?

Is this a meme?

glowing brain meme

Anyone who votes nobody is actually an ISIS supporter

Assad, of course. Just because the ideology of the Kurds is better does not mean that they are not being used by the United States to further destabilize the region and advance their own goals. They literally have a ten year military contract with the US, they are literally US mercs.

FSA IS THE OFFICAL CHOICE OF THE NAZTROT GANG

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How is selling oil to the golf states "anti-capitalist"?

All Syrians should be siding with Assad. Socialism can be established after America has been routed.

both assad and YPG

Don`t you mean gulf states?
In the same sense as trade between west and soviet powers(and trade between katalonia and central government)

Basbar all SAdd of courbse :DDDDDDDDD

Congrats on correcting my spelling, but how can you seriously believe that the relationship between the US and the USSR are comparable to the relationships between Saudi Arabia and ISIS? ISIS only exists in the first place because of US intervention, and it is fed and emboldened by the oil trade and arming by SA. ISIS is convenient to the forces of western hegemony since it allows the destabilization of regions unfriendly with the empire.

nice job supporting nato imperialism retards

nice job supporting a capitalist nation state that was created by the british and the french and is ruled by a man who routinely whores syria out to the west anyways

SDF, not just the YPG.

Would have said this a year ago, but they are slobbering on the American knob too much. It's not going to end well.

fuck off zionist you cant mossad the assad

Sorry but America and it's terrorist allies need to go. No more compromises. At this point I would support the third fucking Reich if it meant eliminating the American empire. A weak America means a higher probability of socialism.

that's why we call you Red Fascists

Nice try anarchist.

But America is just the new third reich.

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Fuck off anarkiddie.

Sorry, I forgot the gangster run oligarchy of Russia are just secret accelerationists, protecting the Syrian Socialist Republic against evil westerners.

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Who western teens in their basements "side with" is really going to change a thing.

western teens in their basement got trump elected my nigga

No, not really. You can't be a fucking ideological purist and not accept help when you are fighting fascists like ISIS. I'll remind you that Stalin allied himself with the Americans when the fascist threat was a common cause, and Ho Chi Minh allied himself and the Vietminh with the American OSS to fight fascist Japanese imperialism.


Then stop pretending to be a fucking leftist you massive retarded piece of shit.

Then stop pretending to be a fucking leftist you massive retarded piece of shit.

Agreed, but I think leftypol tends to exaggerate the YPG/YPJ's nationalism. Obviously it is a mostly Kurdish militia but there is a heavy presence of non-Kurdish groups (Arabs, Assyrians, Circassians, etc) plus the dope fucking international brigade modeled after the one in the Spanish Civil War. Plus I think its clear that out of all Kurdish movements, Rojava is the most secular

lol fuck off

1. ISIS aren't fascist
2. ISIS are also supported by the US

And you call yourself a leftist

This is literally retarded

Fucking lol

Assad isn't fascist. In fact, none of the major factions in this war are fascist. Stop calling everything you don't like fascism you moron.

Literally the only real reason I'd say I have to support Assad is that the Kurdish YPG aren't capable, or particularly willing, to try and take over to run all of Syria themselves. They've got Rojava and I hope they can defend it, but I can't support them unconditionally over the rest of Syria. Unfortunately I do have to admit and acknowledge that having Rojava and Assad is pretty much a contradiction. One would inevitably work to wipe out the other.

I don't trust the FSA even slightly. If they ever somehow managed to gain a semblance of power, the civil war would just continue indefinitely, rather like Libya right now. Most likely in an even worse condition, considering that Tahrir al-Sham and other more nationally-focused Jihad groups seem to outnumber the FSA. As much of a murdering non-leftist tyrant as he is, I think Assad is probably the only person who could hold the whole country together under some semblance of normalcy.

If nothing else, I think it would be far easier for Socialist revolution to occur from within a largely secular dictatorship than within an Islamic caliphate that's been at war for decades.

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Yea obvious collaborators with western imperialism, because those guys are what I think of when it comes to true "socialism".

nod an argumend

I'm with the lion

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If this isn't bait then tankies are literally worse than anprims

I support both Assad and the YPG.

This tbh. The best possible outcome is an alliance between the two where Assad grants autonomy within Syria (or even independence) in exchange for their support.

The PKK were actually genuinely socialist, which is why they were designated a terrorist organization by the US rather then being an ally of them. They got fucked over by the CIA though as a result.

honestly, nobody. who tf knows what is going behind the scenes in that mess.

The anti-imperialist that were not supported by capitalist. 😉

The Syrian government. The Axis of Resistance is an imperfect but necessary means of defying global capitalism.

The YPG, in spite of its revolutionary claims, is far too compromised by its collaboration with American and Zionist imperialism.

With the NPF and the syrian communists organized in it.

So we have 65 "anti-imperialist" Holla Forumsyps here.

I too believe class struggle is unimportant.

is this viable though? ultimately I would like this but Rojava is more important than Assad/Syria

why isis not on the list ?

I too didn't answer because of this. OP is an imperialist wrecker.

You fell for the meme.

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Good post.

It's a hell of a lot more viable than the YPG taking on ISIS, the Turks, and Assad all at once.

How many NATO aircraft has Assad shot down?

Kurds are more ethnically exclusivist. The Syrian Army has been hit harder but they do integrate a variety of people such as Liwa al-Quds which has some Christians in it.
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Syria is capitalist bruv, they're not resisting shit.


Assad co-operated with the "War on Terror" for years before he fell out of favour with Empire.

SDF has the largest Christian militia in Syria in its ranks

Unironically agree. If you think America isn't the world's number one problem, you're fucking deluded.

What's delusional is thinking that Russia or China will be any different if they become the dominant imperial power.

The no.1 problem is capitalism, and if you think this can be reduced to "America" you're an idiot.

Assad is collaborating with Russian and Iranian imperialism.

Multipolarity is a lesser evil than global hegemony by a single power.

But its not a precondition for socialism like the anti-imperialist proclaim.

It's still supporting imperialism to back Assad.

YPG, any other answer is support for the status quo.

Or the ussr!

The Lion of Damascus tbh

YPG are capitalist collaborators, anyone working with and not against the US cannot be trusted. Assad is also still a socialist, Ba'athism is legitimate socialism that actually works fight me Trots