Stop resisting American/European/Israeli imperialism

Stop resisting American/European/Israeli imperialism.

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Can you expand on that, what did he mean?

All states are imperialist. There is no point in fighting imperialism since in doing so you inevitably end up siding with other imperialists.

no i will fight imperialism by wearing hijabs

Babbies first step in geopolitics? If you actually engage in materialist analysis you realize that some states are extractors or surplus value, labor power, resources and trade surplus, while some other states are on the receiving end. Are you seriously implying that Russia is an imperialist actor in Syria?

There is also a clear difference between states which are acting oppressive and states which are fighting for their right of self-determination.

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Show me where and how, you baboon

dude killing civilians lmao xD

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Stop resisting German/Italian/Japanese imperialism. I'm sure things will just be worse if we fight them.

Its amazing how triggered some tankies got because Bookchin didnt give enough shits about their useless antiimperialist posturing.

Just stop treating leftism as your place to uselessly LARP around and attacking people because they dont share your interest in capitalist geopolitics. Its even more useless than socdems.


So what? Since when do we care about capitalist governments and what their current position in geopolitics is? Its a fucked up game which can only be won by socialism.

Oh another tankies being triggered by Bookchin thread?

Because that is what fucking shapes the world? Your "lmao everything is the same attitude" is vulgar reductionism Marx wouldn't have supported at all. He was a supporter of the German 1848 revolution which was a nationalist/liberal revolution because it was preferable to particularistic liberal monarchies. Marxism has something to do with self-determination besides the fact that it is straight up paternalizing, since some movements are fighting imperialism in the face of actual extinction, like the Houthi in Yemen fighting against the genocidal war the Saudis engage in. It's also evident that the current hegemonic shape of global capitalist is supported by several imperialist institutions, such as the petrodollar or the IMF, and when bourgeois nations such as Russia are aiming to undermine this structure they deserve tactical and critical support.

I mean would you also blame for Mao for alligning with Chiang Kai-Shek to resist Japanese imperialism?

More like Anarkiddies and Leftcoms are making fools of themselves because they don't even know the definition of imperialism

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Please tell me what extremely useful stances or actions you have taken.

Shitposting hard on imageboards, just like tankies.

Yes, the West (and America in particular) is the center of global capitalism, and the center of imperialism. That map (aside from dumbass labels) is accurate 99% of the time.

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I'm still waiting for an argument.

Also, that map. Saudi-Arabia and UAE are blue on there. Bitch please.

wtf i love non-western nationalist capitalism now
Read Marx
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/

Please explain how Marx refutes the fact that the USA is the center of global capital and the #1 force of imperialism.

Marx lived in the age of national capitalism, he died before he could see how global, neocolonial imperialism perpetuated capitalism way over its assumed lifespawn

Please explain how Marx's theses should push me to support capitalists like Assad.


Does it mean we should support capitalists now ?
As I said, read Marx. The Kurds are closer to instantiate socialism than Assad and ISIS will ever be.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/

If we put non-white bourgs in charge, they'd let us overthrow capitalism with no resistance. Pledge your twitter support to anti-imperialism now.

I don't think it makes sense to repeat what I've written above, you are either too dumb to understand or simply refuse to admit that the world is more complex than "Wage labor and Capital" which is the most basic introductionary text that I have read years ago already

Read Althusser

Fucking hell. Cooperatives + ballots isn't socialism.

What are you doing to resist imperialism, OP?

Marx "supported" many bourgeois governments in his time. A secular, bourgeois state is preferable to a feudal, reactionary hellhole. Not only is that common sense, but it's also basic Marxism. The imperialist forces want to turn Syria into Greater Saudi Arabia. If you don't support the Syrian government's fight against that, you are an imperialist.

You still haven't gave me a good argument to make me support Assad or ISIS over the Kurds and it doesn't matter anyway, we are just shitposters on a singaporean cartoon forum
No thanks. My time on Earth is too limited for that.


Their organization is still closer to socialism than the one promoted by Assad or ISIS.

wtf i love capitalism now

tfw my ineffectual purely mental positioning makes me into an imperialist
literally mysticism

Really activated my neurons

Please explain to me where I said that we should support ISIS, lmao

Also, since you are unable to deduct things from my post before:
We should critically support Assad because he is preventing the Iraq-Turkey-Pipeline to be built which would be another instance of ressource extraction into the West which has the long term goal of making Europe independent on Russian gas and makes the EU suck more American-Saudi dick. This would be perpetuating global capitalist hegemony through the petrodollar recycling which is paramount for the artificially inflated US to overcome second and primary contradiction of capitalism.

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Within certain contexts, yes. Marxism is not an absolutist moral judgement against particular forms of organizing society, it's a tool to understand what role these forms play according to the material circumstances of a society. An autonomous, independent, sovereign national-capitalism in the Middle East is a thousand times preferable to its submission to American and European capital.

If you think Marx never supported capitalism you're in for a lot of disappointment.

I mean supporting Assad is still supporting capitalism

It's funny how Bookchin's arguments for not opposing US/Israeli aggression were completely neo-con tier garbage that even liberals, libertarians and many conservatives have their own criticisms of, but if you attack them here the anarkiddies immediately accuse you of being a Stalinist or a Maois, as if only tankies have ever criticized US foreign policy.

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You do know Marx supported a number of "bourgeois" governments in his lifetime, right?

But capitalist revolutions have to happen

Then why don't you support a social democratic secular regime which protects minority rights over a fundamentalist religious balkanization which would function as a buffer for western ressource extraction?

The dialectical method doesn't just stop at 1800.

Wew lad

Bob Black pls stop making these shitpost threads

stop resisting arrest then, nigger

Do you know what imperialism even means?

What exactly is the end goal of anti-imperialism? It's not like the US is the only world player with its sphere of influence
Pic semi-related, shitty and inaccurate map from google

At the core of all modern antiimperialism lies nationalism and the glorification of shitty dictatorships.

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Please respond

no u

wow rude

how do anarchists understand it?