/leftymemeteam/

I'm here to ask, what can be done to redpill the normies? Should we replicate Holla Forums and shitpostor use bots everywhere? Even though it gets them noticed, it also gets them hated by pretty much everyone else. We also need some new memes, basically, the only memes we have so far are:

-Stirner/Spooks
-Bookchin
-Bordiga
-Cockshott
-Posadas/Ayy Lmao
-Catgirls
-Nazbol

We really need to step up the OC game, also text based memes. All of stormfronts stupid 14/88 muh wyte genocyde muh anti racist is deeply triggering and problematic meming really seemed to convert a lot of people.

We need to simplify theory and dumb it down to the level of having normies understand it. Getting the general idea across is more important than linking them all three volumes of capital.
Slogans should be ironic, funny, or satire when directed at opposing ideologies. This is already an inherent part of memes and chan culture, so not much is needed here. As great as Bordiga, Bookchin, and Cockshott are, their faces aren't exactly fun.
Despite all the idpol hate here, I think you need to redpill liberals by introducing them to idpol/marxism and then moving them away from the idpol part leaving only the leftism. Same for the fash, nazbol meme is actually doing a good job at this.
Think of Holla Forums where jooish conspiracy, eye que and race etc. Discourse used to be forbidden and now somehow its perfectly acceptable to be a Nazi (online at least). We need to do something similiar with socialism, communism, anti-capitalism etc. IMO the proper strategy here would be to focus on anti-capitalism over promoting socialism/communism as most people are willing to think that capitalism sucks and they have to concede that before they go looking for alternatives. What based RDWOLFF does here is pretty important in redpilling the burgers out of their classcuckery.
This is the key and most important part of any meme, when we decide on a mantra/saying or meme, we need to be annoying assholes like Holla Forums and literally spam it everywhere.


IMO the best targets are not Holla Forums even though some of those will find this board on their own and get redpilled, nor normies like conservatives or liberals. The best recruiting ground for the left is semi-woke anti idpol people like sane progressive and jimmy dore fans, while the more idpol ones can get reddit or w/e.

Ideas: We need to come up with some fresh ideas, if Holla Forums has kekistan we should have our own country of the FALClands. 'The Daily Stirner' perhaps something can be done with that as well, I'm open to suggestions.

Other urls found in this thread:

instructables.com/id/Wheatpaste/
youtube.com/watch?v=5Dw_4qHgaRw
leftofwreckage.wordpress.com/2017/03/16/present-the-facts-not-an-ideology/
facebook.com/IntergalacticWorkers/
facebook.com/DCMNSP/
facebook.com/BatkosManarchistmemes/
reddit.com/r/brocialism/
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Also, Holla Forums should consider lifiting its ban on raiding, I wouldn't advocate raiding other boards, more like disliking youtube videos, etc. To try to fight Holla Forumss manipulation of YT and twitter algorithms, etc. Same should apply to twitter hashtags, i.e. getting everyone to spam a certain hashtag and get anticapitalism trending or w/e

Use code like the right does. Don't say prole, say worker or working class or whatever. Don't say revolution, say worker revolt or strike

I made this poster ages ago as part of an O.C thread, I was thinking of making some wheatpaste to put it up around my city.

What do you comrades think of it?

instructables.com/id/Wheatpaste/

What's the exact goal? That would make talking about methods easier.

Nobody would understand what's going on with it. It'd also cost you a fortune in toner.

Let them come to us, user. Pretty soon Holla Forums will see how much weak sauce it's getting there on Holla Forums and will start to look around. Maybe not soon, but eventually. Our best hope is with the younger generation. Fucking Holla Forumsacks are a lost cause to be honest, but the younger ones who are looking around on the chans and aren't as indoctrinated into the retarded Trump memes will be the ones to look out for. That's my theory anyway.

Nice post, OP.

I'd agree with most of it except you have two very large and very complicated problems. You care what people think and you coddle sacred cows.

While its true that Holla Forums has an abundance of diversity in political thought, the problem here stems from individuals clutching to their own version of what communism, liberalism, leftism, conservativism and socialism should be. The difference with Holla Forums is you have two groups; White Nationalists and minorities peetending to be White Nationalists because it's hilarious to poke fun at everything.

Comedy is tragedy plus time. The majority of Holla Forums has their own private moo moos they want to keep hidden because of hurt fee fees. You must disregard this notion. To have a sense of humor, you must be willing to be ridiculous and not care. How else do you explain with a straight face that the biggest conversation of the 2016 election was a "racist cartoon frog and an army of centipedes"?

If you're going to meme, start by picking apart WN identity in concentrated bursts using a single sentence and an appropriate pic to spread amongst normies. Be fearless.

Otherwise youll just be planning forever and doing nothing.

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You really think it's the neets doing the voting and vote manipulation?

Better yet, use word employee. Liberal won't see the difference.

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top quality meme right there lad

facebook groups

But no one likes Holla Forums, tho. Their biggest 'achievement' was supporting the candidate who won in spite of being 3 million votes behind the 2nd most hated presidential candidate to ever get past primaries. We can't expect the system to do our work for us.

We can be more aggressive, but trying to compete for circlejerk space is really more a matter of driving people away through overexposure than winning them over through overexposure.

Here's some new terminology which another guy trying to do the same thing came up with:
bourgeoisie - the investor class
petite bourgeoisie - the owner-operator class
proletariat - the working class
lumpenproletariat - the forgotten class

>tfw you made that kind of autistic hammer and pencil in a gear to represent cybersocialism (originally cybersyndicalism as both a call to revive unions and wordplay, but I now see that syndicalism really is dead)
Someone needs to fix the gear teeth. I made it ad hoc in Paint. Download a picture of a gear from the internet, expand it and move it around to cover up the current gear, and then fill it in with yellow. It'll look much better.
Don't even tell people to read the bread book, just take quotes directly from it. Works great. Completely agreed in general, although it's important to note that this should not mean the exclusion of theory discussion here.
Yes. Make fun of the alt right. Remember, they're postmodern and based solely around criticism of the other side. It's how modern memes work.
Nazbol works on fashies because they're already incredibly spooked. IDK what to do about normies. It seems that the discourse is slowly getting them more involved in politics over time. Just feed off the steady stream of them coming over from the Jimmy Dore and Bernie crowds like you say. You try to force them into politics, you end up looking like the SJWs and Holla Forums. Don't do that.
If we do say stuff like "Pol Pot did nothing wrong" and "I'll make Stalin look like a fucking anarchist", it needs to be made sure that it's ironic. We don't want a bunch of tankies running around - we have enough as it is, and I remember what it was like in late 2016 when tankies more or less dominated the discourse and every other thread was dedicated to shitting on Makhno. Wolff is great and perfectly exemplifies how to go forward about this. Don't ever use communist or anarchist terminology. If the topic of anarcho-communism ever comes up when I talk to people (I try to avoid mentioning that I am one), I try my best to use the line "employee run firms, face to face democracy, and production for human use". I believe in the abolition of firm and work in favor of free associations of producers and reintegration of labor into communal life, but do I say that? No, too long. I don't believe in direct democracy per se, but it's the closest thing. Etc.
Agreed for lack of a better alternative. It kinds of sucks, but it's the best we have and we need to do something.
"no"
FALC (and keep it as just FALC) is a good meme for getting rid of "communism = state ownership + bajillions dead", but this is dumb.
Absolutely. I was a Bernie person who was also disgusted with SJWs before I read Einstein's "Why Socialism" and then read stuff on Wikipedia out of curiosity and moved on to books, then finally found this place after months of thinking I was alone in my situation. If you made this process systematic, you would have a huge influx of just the kind of people this place needs more of to ward off Holla Forums and Reddit.
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Babby socdems (the people who got into socialism w/ Bernie, etc.) still have many of the left-over traits of liberals, traits which we can use to convert them. They like to believe that they're impartial (which they are more so relative to Trump supporters), but in actually have a huge hard on for believing authorities - they take everything uncritically from Bill Maher, John Oliver, and are generally distrustful of those who are not big figures already. Meme Einstein's socialism. Get them to read "Why Socialism?", link them to Chomsky's videos on anarcho-syndicalism if you think they know who he is already. Once they're on our side, they'll actually become more rational and skeptical (oh, the irony) and read Marx and Kropotkin and all that good stuff.
Chomsky's anarcho-syndicalism is useful because it doesn't have the connotations of communism ("muh gorillions", you know the rest) and because he's a respected professor, not a smashie. We need to break this image of anarchism as angsty teenagers in black calling for chaos and harassing workers. Focus on meme'ing Graeber and Chomsky's works. Don't shill books - shill essays and videos. I mentioned Chomsky's videos above, which you can find on the YT channel "Chomsky's Philosophy". A good Graeber essay which would resonate with a lot of people is "On The Phenomenon Of Bullshit Jobs".
People in CompSci are extremely receptive to our ideas if they're not put under the labels of the left because many have experience being screeched at by SJWs online. Associate Cockshott with Stallman if you can, push GNUSSR and "FLOSS = communism" and online piracy as a revolutionary act. They're generally anti-authoritarian if you undo the surface level desire to be Gates (as a person who lives in IRL Silicon Valley, "Silicon Valley" is consistently spot-on and sometimes isn't even an exaggeration), and you automatically win them over if you BTFO libertarians by being actually libertarian. Get back the hacker aesthetic!

Well, I think leftypol is still united in a similar way. Minus that one soccdem poster everyone is radical left. We all agree that capitalism is bad, socialism = workers control of the MOP, and we should try to move away from capitalism and towards socialism/communism. The only difference is we disagree on the strategy for change, and the specific type of socialism to be implemented. But most people would take any socialism over current capitalism, even if its not their perfect definition. Just like Holla Forums is a collection of different neomonarchists, white nationalists, civic nationalists, larping normie convervatives, etc.

they're propagandizing the internet which changes consciousness

But the overall joke is the Jewish Conspiracy. You need a charicature for capitalism like the Monopoly guy to make the butt of jokes and the scape goat.

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Also marxism is about the abstract social antagonisms of the system, not the boog as a class specifically, capitalism generates capitalists, not the other way around. We do institutional analysis here, as opposed to the conspiracy minded Holla Forumsacks

Stop using "redpill" for one. Also, it doesn't matter what you do. If you mention socialism or communism or anything that isn't being a selfish piece of shit trying to fuck over others in the "rat race" then you won't be listened to at all. This is my experience in America, anyway. The proletariat are too fucking stupid and hate the new "generation" (marketing term that literally means nothing) because they don't do things like they used to.

People want the status quo to remain the same. They will grumble about change but once change is actually being put forth they entrench themselves.

i'm not talking about braindead boomers, im talking about millennials and gen Z

The majority of them are fucking stupid too. They are stuck in the race mentality. They want to escape, but they don't want to put forth the effort to do so. It also doesn't matter because "millennials" and "gen z" don't run the world.

As long as leftists are seen as hysterical, screeching SJWs, there will be a very large percentage of normies out there who would want nothing to do with the left, even if they're working class and would objectively benefit from supporting leftist causes. No one likes SJWs, no one likes being around them, they're exhausting and divisive and drive people away and prevent anything from being done. They're literally COINTELPRO. The main problem with leftist internet is that SJWs have completely overrun it - is there a single leftist internet community besides Holla Forums where they are not in complete control?

If we are to win hearts and minds, we need more non-idpol leftist communities. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or whatever, But the obsession with virtue signaling, oppression olympics, bending over backwards for every single lunatic out there who might get their feefees hurt if you call a retard a retard or porky a fat pig just makes leftist online communities not fun.

Those of you who love Reddit (I personally check it out sometimes but I'm not a fan of site mechanics) should get together and make a non-idpol leftist subreddit. You can even give it some kind of an ironic name, like r/brocialism or whatever, since brocialism is seen as such a boogeyman among radlib LARPers pretending to be leftists. Despite what we all think of Reddit, it's one of the most popular websites on the internet, while Holla Forums is on a site literally blacklisted by Google, so having a Holla Forums-esque presence on Reddit would be positive (as long as it doesn't turn into T_D and ends up taking overy Holla Forums like T_D took over Holla Forums).

Then use that subreddit to mock everyone, from Holla Forums to idpol radlibs. Post quotes by Žižek making fun of idpol, post about Marx kicking out idpol elements from the organization, make fun of porky corporations' usage of idpol and so-called activists who don't want to overthrow porky but instead just want more porky minorities, make fun of lifestylists and how other """leftist""" subreddits care more about feminism than class struggle, make fun of right-winged idpol (Holla Forums) by ridiculing their conspiracy theories, their LARPers, the fact like 90% of them are literally underage, how they get triggered by leftist themes and minority characters in their porky produced mass media, how they get triggered whenever anyone insults daddy, basically do everything Holla Forums already does, except on Reddit, and ban everyone who tries to concern troll for idpol (which is something Holla Forums unfortunately doesn't).

I'd be willing to bet just about anything that a subreddit like this would easily quickly become one of the the most popular political/comedy subreddits on the site. It's an untapped market - leftism, but without all the obnoxious cringe faggotry.

Why the fuck do we say "normies"? it is a bit cringy

This

isn't there a reddit leftypol?

There's a place for massive faggots called r/leftypol if that's what you're asking.

I agree

never been there, whats it like

Pretty much non-existent, like your mum's hymen when she was 14.

mum jokes noice

I'd also like to add the fact that no one wants to start violence so the state will always have the monopoly on it. No one wants to do anything violent at a riot or a protest and those that do are looked down upon by the protesters. They scream about "no justice no peace" but all they ever do is mildly inconvenience, acquiesce to state demands like the cucks they are, or allow themselves to be arrested. They only fill up a cop's wallet with overtime instead of setting them on fire or something.

Not that I condone that. I'm a good citizen.

youtube.com/watch?v=5Dw_4qHgaRw

Best version.

if you are interested in coordinated actions including wheat pasting but not limited to it, join action front.

Man, that really takes me back to the old days of Leftypol

FUGGIN REVISIONIST READ MARX

We shouldn't use the word redpill but our own, something like give him the glasses and have they live memes.

I dream to one day to cuck porkie and bang his whore trophy wife

Can you give me a link to info about action front?

Its just because I Googled "action front" & "Leftist action front" and I got a Jordanian political party and a Russian organisation.

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Wheatpaste is cool, but you should use posters with clearer messages like pic related. Also post photos if you do it if you have time to stop and photograph.

Not that I think you should do this or anything because I am a good citizen and a faithful person in our functioning government but have you ever used a bayonet before?

leftofwreckage.wordpress.com/2017/03/16/present-the-facts-not-an-ideology/

This, this I like

Actually with black and white posters like this you could make a stencil and use spray paint, that way you don't have to carry around a bucket and roller, you can have a concealable can and a piece of cardboard.

Don't do this.

No. DO do this.

I mean, do it as in perform the actions.
Don't do it as in don't say "redpill" this isn't /r9k/.

Somewhat related, there's a lot of good lefty memepages on facebook. Pics related, from Intergalactic Workers' League - Posadist

facebook.com/IntergalacticWorkers/

Editor user from our new mag has a memepage with 30k likes and 1 million outreach

facebook.com/DCMNSP/

Bat'ko also has a page with 7k likes

facebook.com/BatkosManarchistmemes/

So some strategies I suggest for Facebook are:

space ships are not like tanks they are like boats

I used one to cut my toe nails once

You won't find us on the net yet, we have a website, just waiting to launch it. We are a non-sectarian leftist group who coordinates online. We are small but we have members all over the globe. We coordinate wheat pasting, various direct actions, and will soon be putting out some content. Basically we are just a loosely aligned group of people that have similar goals, and we coordinate our actions together for maximum impact. If your are interested shoot an email over to [email protected]/* */

ayy lmao

Theres already a /r/brocialism
reddit.com/r/brocialism/

Not good enough. Make a new one.
Call it…
/r/MansOfProduction.

Bumpin thread with a classic meme.

debt is spelled wrong

If you look at the OC thread, its pretty shit with regards to memes, its most rehashed/weak shit

I still dislike that pencil on the emblem. It's not as "timeless" as a hammer or sickle. Not to mention the lower end seems too long compared to the hammer's, and the black tip disappears in the background.

Huh, dunno why I saged. Have a bump.

well feel free to edit

None of the memes posted here are really funny in the way that Pepe is funny. They require you to read, are based off assumptions of held knowledge.. preaching to the choir.