Otto Warmbier, U.S. student sent home from North Korea dies

Otto is now dead.
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40335169


Are you happy now, tankies?

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Looks like the CIA gets to add another star to their wall.

youtube.com/watch?v=xkqHUToXHic
^ what not to do in North Korea tbh

Why did they do this?
What did they hope to gain?

15 years for stealing a poster?

How many people die in American prisons every week?

Why did they do what? They didn't inflict this on him.

It might've been an accident that he went comatose. And then they sent him back to the USA so he didn't die in their custody? Who fucking knows, tbh

How much do you wanna bet this will be used as an excuse for America to sanction/invade the DPRK?

watch the video
He clearly broke the NAP.


To few.

he deserved it tbh

I doubt NK would intentionally kill him. It would risk starting an international incident.

Good riddance, counter revolutionary scum - the home of the revolution must be protected against US imperialism

that was a joke MI5 hehehehe

not just *a* poster, but The People's Poster

I've heard liberal regards suggesting they were doing experiments with him. Fucking ridiculous, why would they chose an American citizen for that?

We don't even know exactly what they did

might is right
this is what happens when you damage best korean propaganda poster and cant proceed to damage the rest of it
that guy was a weak moron and this is what happens to the weak
why would they not do it tho? they did it because best koreans are the law in best korea


having nukes makes you immune from 'international incident' spooks
they are international incident, the country, and there isnt anything anyone can do about it

having nukes doesn't make you immune from sanctions.

In America you get tasered to the point of brain damage if you don't get out of the car.

youtu.be/0lfJ5WSpiWA

I wonder if La Sha (Writer, knot-it-all, goofball, revolutionary!) will write a follow-up to her 2016 piece

huffingtonpost.com/la-sha/on-the-revocation-of-whit_b_9531122.html

Nothing wrong.

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there arent any niggers or spics in north korea….

FTFY

They genuinely believe it.

Better than on their own citizens?

Warmbier was offered by people back at home $10,000 for a stolen poster, and $200,000 to his family if he didn't make it back alive.

Warmbier says he was in financial troubles when he accepted the offer.

He was also allegedly drunk on the night he tried to steal it.

Still, my empathy can only stretch so far when people make such stupid decisions. Not only was the theft in North Korea pre-meditated, for money that he couldn't have been that desperate for (and could this person/these people really dole out so much?), he allegedly got drunk before he stole it instead of deciding he ought to be functioning at maximum capacity? Christ.

so did you personally knew the guy so that you call him by his first name?

better than in syria at least

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CHECK EM. MY EYES.

yeah, i'm sure the millions of homeless, unemployed, imprisoned, medically ill and abandoned people in america are loving life.

Unlikely. He probably was waterboarded but they fucked it up.

american news media is already talking about "possible retaliation" and trump just spoke to the press pool saying "it's a brutal regime and we're going to handle it"

oh god I swear if this college republican trying to take a propaganda poster as a souvenir kicks off a renewed hot war with north korea, i am going to kill myself

Hey, you know what I'd like to engage in while in one of the most authoritarian countries on the planet? Petty vandalism.

What could go wrong

Fucking this.
I wouldnt even engage in petty vandalism in Russia, let alone fucking north korea.

Gods, let the nuclear fallout happen already so that muricans with their families evaporate into dust

GET ME OFF THIS RIDE

Not even old Holla Forums could have come up with such a scenario. What a time to be alive!

why is American media so horny for war? Violence in general.

yasss

ITT: people who are too autistic to understand the value of human life, let alone understand the vastly exaggerated punishment which North Korea dealt that clearly did not fit the crime.

And here I was almost beginning to see leftypol as a pleasant place, where good alternative politics were being discussed. I guess sometimes face value is the most accurate.

world is becoming dumber as time goes on

'murika ! fuck yeah !.

the media just give what their viewers want

Trump is letting the generals dictate foreign policy and they've been itching to use all these expensive new toys for years. Iraq and Afghanistan aren't proper wars, but Russia on the other hand, and there are still plenty of old Cold Warriors looking to settle the some scores…

I agree, user! That's why we must go to war and have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, die because of this one person!

good riddance
back to facebook crying about innocent kid who dindu nuffin

Daily reminder that communism will be achieved through defending retarded Asian dystopian monarchies. Down with Amerikkkan imperialism!!!

source for him getting paid to take it? Honestly, it just strikes me as someone wanting a cool poster and not thinking about possible repercussions for taking it. Never heard he was expecting to get paid for it

I don't support North Korea but I don't support a war against it either. Why should I?

The story about the money makes no sense and sounds like something only a North Korean would believe. The story he had to tell said he would be paid in a used car worth $10,000.

Human life and pretty much everything that exists it's all meaningless. But humans in special are a fucking joke creation.

I'm judging NK, not cheering for the US.


I don't use facebook, it's a botnet. Also kys.


This tbh. All the current incarnations of gommunisms need to be violently purged, of course only their leader need lose their lives.

Cool attitude. How about you do us all a favor and blow your brain out right now if it's all so worthless?

Read a book

Nice digits.

I am a firm believer that people who lead happy, balanced lives never tend to be nihilistic. I'm sorry that you've been dealt a shitty hand in life. The best people create personal meaning in life and don't accept this teenangstbabbysfirstdeepthoughts-tier garbage.

p.s. the ego and its own is a pseudo-intellectual semanticsjerk

How is it not a monarchy?

so do nihilists

Because I'm having fun watching all the decay around me.
Just because shit is meaningless doesn't mean you can't have fun.

This board is filled with sociopaths and wannabe sociopaths. It gets very tiresome.

I second this.

aren't you someone important?

Good night white muh privileged man, you will not be missed.

The Supreme People's Assembly appoints the government of the DPRK which enacts power over domestic matters and the economic. In that sense, North Korea is more democratic than western nations, where the people have no power over the economy.

Since the DPRK is constantly under siege, the CMC exists which has the autority to direct resources from domestic matters to the military. The CMC is currently headed by Kim Jong-Un - however, this doesn't constitute a monarchy by any means.

By pledging allegiance to a couple of german, edgy authors who lived in the 19th century?

Fatalism and determinism is way more rad anyway tbh.

It's a radical leftist board, don't be surprised when people defend one of the last remaining socialist states.

It's only meaningless if you are retarded. You sound like you either need to see a therapist or use your brain for once. Apply yourself.

Will this have any effect on America's policy on North Korea?

this, never break the NAP bro

HEREDITARY LEADERSHIP=MONARCHY
Literally treating the country and it's people like property that can be handed down from father to son

Nah, it's the other way around.
If you haven't realized that someday all things will come to an end and literally everything you and everybody else had done were all for nothing then you have to be retarded.

Except that Kim Jong-Un keeps being elected.

What's the point in fighting for communism and socialism, then?

yeah those elections where he keeps winning 99% of the vote are totally legitimate the government would never lie to me.

I doubt it.

So does Putin.

Alright then show me where they were rigged


Are you arguing that a majority of the Russian people aren't in favor of Putin as their president? The opposition that the western media loves to shill for has almost no respect or recognition amongst the entire country. Please turn off CNN for once.

meant for

I know, absolutely ridiculous.

As we all know, no one ever gets killed or permanently injured under the custody of the American military or police.

The Somozas and Duvaliers were also "elected".

Even RT admits there is massive unrest over Putin's leadership.
Jesus fucking Christ tankies pretend to be socialist and shill for the most bourgeoisie fucks in existence. Really makes you think.

I'm not shilling for Putin. He is a capitalist. I'm merely saying that a majority of Russians are in favor of him as a president, as he achieved stability and raising living standards.

You seriously believe some protests change that?

Misunderstood your post.
I thought you were denying opposition.

Only if it brings us closser to Posadism.

The people protesting him are wealthy liberals mostly.

so USA is monarchy then?

I understand all that, still, the fact that you have not ended your life yet to me is proof that you don't even believe it's meaningless. If you truly believed everything was meaningless and you had half a brain, you would have long ago taken a quick exit.

Nihilistic thinking is retarded because those that espouse it, by virtue of wanting to perpetuate it, don't subscribe to it. You have to give your life meaning, otherwise it will be senseless suffering. If you truly think seeing others suffer gives you meaning, so be it, but I still think you are a retard.

I will again ask you to apply yourself.

Tankes are truly sociopaths tbh
This doesn't justify a despotic capitalist state

Of course opposition exists. But I dare you to actually talk to Russians about Putin. Even western media often worries about the fact that a majority of Russians support him.

That does't mean I'm pledging my alligiance to the state capitalist government of the Russian Federation - however, I do tactically support Russia as a means to combat US-imperialism and their global capitalist system of surplus extraction enforced through the petrodollar. Russia under Putin is a necessary evil.

Show me where the DPRK is capitalist

Yes.

Daily reminder that Bookchin was a Zionist who was against the USSR because muh statism and was probably backed by the CIA.

Definitely.

The USSR :^)


I'm going to go read the next revolution.

You dont have to agree with him on everything. Find ONE person you agree with every single issue on.
NAZBOL GANG NEEDS NO LOGIC OR EVIDENCE

Bookchin was an opportunist. He knew that when he goes for an anti-imperialist line, he'd be slandered. So he inject a good portion of liberal idealism into his ideology which gave him the chance to be popular amongst American hippies and to hold speeches where he could flirt with AnCaps and Lolberts.

He was also personally pissed about "authoritarian socialists" I think because some Trots bullied him when he was young.

This would be dumber than WWI.

I actually disagree with him on a lot of topics. Mostly because his ideology is extremly utopian, and has some inconsistencies (regarding "hierachy").

does anyone know what actually happened to him?
was he tortured?

Ive talked to many Russians, both that support and oppose him. No real pattern tbh. From what I understand the only reason he has as much support as he does is his appeal to nationalists. My sister lives in St. Petersburg and says Putin is like trump here. Half the population bitches about it non stop and the other half masturbates to him.

No sign of physical trauma. He was oversedated.

Being a Zionist is no different than being a Nazi. I would not take theory lessons from a nazi and neither should you.

Only his handlers in DPRK know. All the West can do is draw inferences.

what on earth has this board become

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Does the fact that the Kim family has ruled the DPRK ever since its founding count? Three generations now… Surely the CMC can find a non-Kim?

Here and here.

It's feudalism everywhere else. :^)

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Don't you think it's also the fact that under Putin people can go to work actually feeling secure about the fact that their company where they are working at still exists? Russia under Yeltsin was a catastrophe.

I'd imagine that resentment towards Putin is the strongest in St. Peterburg - but it is hardly representative for the whole country. It's like taking the europhile liberals of New York as representative for the mostly reactionary USA.

Top post.

They keep electing him though. Some information about DPRK history and socialism:

eastsidemarxism.wordpress.com/north-korean-socialism/

Misconceptions about the DPRK:

eastsidemarxism.wordpress.com/dprk-misconceptions/

Tankies are just butthurt that "Listen, Marxist!" blew them the fuck out.
He was actually a trot at one point you ignorant tankie

"Utopian" is just a meaningless insult at this point. Pretty much all ideologies seek to bring about a state of affairs besides some leftcoms that just want to wait for spontaneous revolution. Show me where he's inconsistent in his definition of hierarchy

GULAGS AGAINST OBESITY!

They generally are killed by other prisoners or just expire of age, not the fucking government beating them into a coma tankie faggotry 'america this America that's stfu eastern shill

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we've had a tankie infestation recently.

What do you mean, commodity form? The export sector is really small compared to their economic output - so production for excange almost doesn't exist. DPRK operates mostly under production for use. Not sure how you reconcile production for use with what Marx described as the commodity form.

wew. That's literally the very last step in the last stage of communism, and probably would require post-scarcity as well. Nobody, especially Marx who talked about "birthstains of capitalism in the new society" would make this a defining element of socialism (or, as you Leftcoms would define it, first-stage-communism).

eastsidemarxism.wordpress.com/dprk-page/

DPRK is socialist. Don't be an opportunist and denounce them to get bonus points with liberals.

Dude I'm a commie but I could care less, fuck Kim Jong can't wait to see the fat bastard hang

It's like if somebody made a list about the United States and the fact that Obama has two daughters is mixed between assertions that he never took Wall Street money and that he condemns drone strikes.

It's happening in waves really. The pendulum of Holla Forums keeps swinging, the board started out with mostly MLs and AnComs, then there was a short surge of Bookchinites, currently it's mostly Leftcom dominated. Once people grow tired of that they resort back to something else. I've noticed the popularity of Cockshotts Towards a New Socialism has a lot of people referring to themselves as MLs recently. But I guess this is also just a temporary thing.

tankies are generally good fun though
so much better than nazbols

I hope you get AIDS shill
Nothing socialist about poverty fascism and absolute brainwashing

tankies have always been a loud minority on here

Why the fuck doesn't the US just invade that shit hole?

They both spout the same edgy larp bullshit that'll get the FBI on all our asses
In fact, I think the tankies here ARE the alphabet soup

The conditioning is real.

I know your feel, your brain is dragging you into the light, but you can't accept the truth yet because years after years the media has told you DPRK is literally the devil

I want him dead too, but Jesus fucking Christ do you have any idea how densely populated North Korea is? A shitload of people will die. I don't want Cambodia 2.

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Kill yourself
Just because they call themselves some name and the big bad US doesn't like them you support them blindly
Boohoo muh anti-imperialism
My Fucken arse

I expected no less from Trots though. You guys even helped imperial Japan to fight against China.

NK has a shitload of artillery pointed directly af Seoul. An invasion means millions of deaths.

Hello fellow commulists, north korea sure is great! lets do some terrorism. Please say suggestions into this tape recorder.

Interesting article about the possible medical details of his condition: theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/06/could-botulism-cause-severe-brain-injury/530586/

In the post you quoted I explained some aspects as to why they are socialist. I also posted links to medium-sized articles.

Maybe you have anything to contribute or you just sperg out?

Hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in the first weeks and a kind of warfare that the U.S hasn't faced since the last Korean War

Having serious convictions seems to be a problem for you? Don't worry, I'm a well adjusted person and don't run arround with Stalin shirts.

They still use currency, people are still paid a wage in order to buy commodities. This is not socialism any way you stretch it.

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Currency doesn't work the same way it does under capitalism. A replacement of money through, let's say labor vouchers, would lead to a massive increase in bureaucracy - mainly because it is not transferable to family members.

Wages, if you follow the marxian definition, don't exist in the DPRK. You are getting paid within a planned economy according to the socially necessary labor time to create a product - you don't get compensated for your labor power within a labor market as it is the case under capitalism. There is no surplus extraction.

Anyone ITT saying that North Korea is a better place to live than the west or trying to imply this kid deserves it is either an edgelord or a retard.

Seriously fuck off back to /r/fullcommunism. This is why people think socialists are delusional, coddled brats

t. burger who never left the states

Just look at the solar panels they use for their streetlights. Name a single burger town where you can find that

Dude, just go there. Nobody here is stopping you.

Even if the 22-year-old simply suffered a (very rare) cardiac arrest of some organic cause, brain injury this severe would mean that he was not resuscitated for a prolonged period.

This is such bad reasoning. Just because he wasn't immediately resuscitated there must be foul play. He was in a prison or a labor camp or whatever you want to call it, not under constant surveillance.

This is satire, right? RIGHT??

You unironically think life is better there??
Man, i'm a ML of sorts but saying this makes no sense , how the fuck is poor country like NK have better standard of living than USA wich is one of the richest countries in the world??

I understand you can defend the DPRK,talk about the advance there , and say that it is a socilaist country.

But saying this makes no fucking sense, you yourself now it is a lie that probably not even Kim Jon Un will say.

What the fuck does western imperialism have anything to do with this story and how NK is a ruthless shithole?

Not the tankie, but the argument "oh if you like communism why don´t you go to live to Cuba or NK" is retarded and makes no fucking sense.

You must be new to tankie autism.
Anti American = Anti imperialism.
It doesnt matter if they are equally imperialist or not in the mind of a tankie.

This is literally a person holding DPRK above the US. If he really likes it that much, I think he should go there.

lolwut?

US citizens are always given good lives when they move to North Korea, unfortunately. They're good for propaganda and basically become celebrities there. Some have even become movie stars there by playing the "evil American" characters.

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I don't speak Korean and I like the place where I live.


What I'm saying is that it is really unfair to compare the material conditions of the DPRK to the ones in the USA. Living quality is entirely subjective, though. Some things in the DPRK are probably better than in the USA. Some things in the USA are probably better than in the USA. If you seriously use capitalist measurements, e.g. how cheap you can buy iPhones, you may be on the wrong board though.

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/
they have already rolled out an article about how to deal with the north korea question
t-they are fast…

*probably better than in the DPRK

Nice try Kim.

Just of curiosity, Why unfortunate?

This is the very first line in that article. And the header photo–holy shit.

Because idiots that believe it's good to live there and actually move there get funded by the government while the natives suffer.

I'm part of a Marxist-Leninist party who entertains good relations with the Worker's Party of Korea. Almost all the comrades who went there told me it's an entirely democratic country.

But I want to improve the conditions where I live, where my friends are, where my family is.

Yes, because they show you what you want to see. There's a reason that visitors are restricted to certain areas.

I guess I will learn Spanish.

Just go to New Zealand.

When you are there for political exchange as a communist, they grant you more freedom actually.

New Zealand is literally on the other side of the world from where I live. Spain is much closer.

Odd how North Korea hates their own communists, yet suck up to communist parties on the outside. Hell, they purged their own in the 50s and 60s before renouncing communism and adopting Juche.

Spain is better than New Zealand. NZ may have impressive nature and nice people, but Spain is one of the most beautiful countries in the world when you look at their nature, their cities, their castles, their culture, their diversity, etc.

t. not a spaniard but somebody who went there couple of times and loved it

I went there and there was dog shit everywhere. Also, the streets were full of unemployed people who were up to no good. The architecture was quite astonishing, though.

I'm not going to lie: Juche engages in some weird cultural revisionism. Which means they are economically still socialist, but they don't call themselves that anymore. For a marxist, who adheres to the base-superstructure principle, this shouldn't play a role. Who cares that they removed a Marx statue from their main street when they are economically still socialist.

So you live in Spain? :^)

Who cares. Culture, nature and history play a more important role for me.

Blame the unemployment on the EU and their austerity measures. I actually used to be a conquistadoresboo when I was 15

North Korea, where even the water parks are "creepy"


archive.is/L0Sbi

I'm no fan of the DPRK, but you have to admit that the Western propaganda against it is insanely over-the-top. Then they go and do shit like give a kid 15 years hard labor for taking a poster and leave him brain-dead

are they raking with bundles of twigs? wtf lol

weird how so much of the "left" criticism of North Korea sounds exactly like the usual liberal/reactionary complaints

They do still call themselves socialist, they just no longer claim to be attempting to achieve communism. They claim that communism is obsolete and that only though the ideology of Juche and the policy of Songun can the "Korean Revolution" go forward. This started with Kim Il-Sung, but Kim Jong-Il killed any chances of returning to a Marxist system.

To be honest, they are paranoid - but who would blame them? They basically live under siege.

And to be fair, doctors found no trace of absue on that kid. He probably just got a stroke from stress or something.

Just curious - how do you justify the lack of internet access - and general contact with the rest of the world, for that matter - afforded to their citizens?

Surely one of the best ways to dispel the myth of the DPRK being a dystopian hellscape would be to allow people to freely communicate and give their own accounts on life in the DPRK?

Is that the KFA?

it's a broom

You're correct, I should have been more precise.


I'm totally ready to discuss criticizsm against the DPRK from a marxist perspective. I'm really open minded actually. But all I hear is like carbon copied from NBC, CNN and the New York Times.


Well they must be doing something right. I've never seen cleaner streets than in North Korea.

yea, I can't wait too
can't wait for dat burger butthurt when all their dindu nuffin boys return home dead or better crippled burdening their welfare system even more

bet ruskies and chinks will use norks to weaken US, like muricans used talibs

a broom made of sticks, got it thx

Yes, I've seen those in the fucking US, m8.

dude, get out of your basement now

They have non-state sanctioned contact with the rest of the world, though. Chinese and SK media is widely consumed. The kids in NK are growing up watching K-dramas and shit. It's not like they're totally unaware of what's out there.

i think it's an expanding rake/fan rake

What do you think brooms were made of before things like plastic bristles or industrially produced straw

Hard question, I'd say a lot of it wants to prevent western consumerism taking hold. Their material conditions are extremly restricted, and they can not compete with the entire world, so they want to prevent some sort of "color revolution" I guess. Some of it might be unjustified paranoia. However, your statement isn't entirely correct - at universities and internet cafes you can freely surf in the Internet with a bunch of websites being disabled. I've also heard that a lot of citizens to use the Internet privately, it's very slow though, and the speed doesn't hold up western standards.

It's excellent. I wish the DPRK would just open up to the world, but considering the position in which they are in they are going full autism-mode. I can understand it, doesn't mean I like it.


No, the KPD in Germany

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They have their own version of Fusion Rock though:

youtube.com/watch?v=fL7-7shibkw

At least the North Korean bands can actually handle their instruments and aren't 90% autotune and playback like the usual K-Pop crap.

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May I ask how do you know this and how do you know your sources -if you even have any- are to be trusted?

do you have any reliable info on their economy?
all I can find is some shit south korean papers or western papers citing south korean sources with the usual cold war tier rhetoric
I've heard they have special economic zones and do business with western firms

It's still a means of exchange, necessitating the existence of commodities
Top ideology

do you have any reliable info on their economy?
all I can find is some shit south korean papers or western papers citing south korean sources with the usual cold war tier rhetoric
I've heard they have special economic zones and do business with western firms

I read nknews.org.
It's as neutral a source on NK as you're likely to find. If you're curious about culture and society inside the DPRK today, and don't want it either filtered through Western/South Korean/Japanese news media or from DPRK state sources, read that.

do you have any reliable info on their economy?
all I can find is some shit south korean papers or western papers citing south korean sources with the usual cold war tier rhetoric
I've heard they have special economic zones and do business with western firms

do you have any reliable info on their economy?
all I can find is some shit south korean papers or western papers citing south korean sources with the usual cold war tier rhetoric
I've heard they have special economic zones and do business with western firms

see
I believe that's a map of where the SEZs are located

read

It's what Marx said. You can surely define it in another way, just doesn't make you much of a Marxist.


I would if I was at my home computer. I'll come back in two days, mabe some other user can help you out, or maybe you ask at >>>/marx/

take your meds


holy fuck I hate flagrant apologist Cold War bullshit like this


wow the ruling party in the single-party dictatorship won another election imagine my shock


>Russia here are proofs

it's kinda like the HRE, ruling nobles are elected by Electors

I would prefer not to

go piss on an electric fence, only a truly bad dude would do that

this thread is like the Big Book of Intellectually-Dishonest Tankie/Nazballs/Putinbot Arguments

god fuckn dammit cripplechan get your shit together now all my spaghetti fell out of my pocket

Hey, it's not that bad. We haven't seen a defense of Juche ITT
yet

every time

One of our most notable political figures in recent years is a LARPing fake cowboy that killed multiple people in his prisons. None of them by other prisoners. Can you stop being retarded for one second?

Who?

t. not a burger

Trots are so fucking garbage they make me want to be a tankie

/r/fullcommunism is anti-DPRK trots (also garbage). You're thinking of /r/communism

t. reddit

God you are pathetic. All you can hope for is an epic death, because your life surely is miserable.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Clarke_(sheriff)

He also puts his name on the ballot as a dem simply for being black despite being to the right of Pence on every issue.

t. idpol

National Bolshevism has little theoretical relation with Hitlerite NS though

Stop having kids, then.

Just because they don't export many goods does not mean they do not practice commodity exchange internally.

So much for the tolerant left.

That leftists are crying for this little faggot is a real shame. It's just faux outrage. Next week it will be another big outrage for first world people to cry over.

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Nah, you're right. Nobody would just post insincere opinions on an imageboard like that.

I wish it were true but sadly it isn't

Holla Forums anarchists on young republicans in America:
Holla Forums anarchists when Best Korea kills a retarded young republican:

truly ebin

Neither of those things are anywhere close to consensus here (I don't think I've ever even seen argument one posed by anyone except the most childish of anarkiddies)

If I had to guess the closest to consensus opinions are:
Violence is a tool like anything else. There is no good moral argument to adhering to strict pacifism under a specifically violent system but if it's not beneficial, don't partake in it.

and

NKorea may or may not be socialist, but the duty and responsibility of the US to fix it or retaliate does not follow regardless of how socialist or authoritarian they are or aren't. Just as it was a mistake and not the business of the US to interfere in Iraq regardless of what Saddam did or did not do, here too it is wrong for the US to butt in no matter what.

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I am pleased this severe criminal will no longer be able to commit crimes against the people and government of DPR Korea. He functioned as a pawn and apparatchik of the Z Society, the United States government and its CIA organization, and the Friendship United Methodist Church, who have regularly defamed and told lies about the DPR Korea. It is regrettable that he was allured by the government of his country of birth to believe such falsities about communism and the DPR Korea, but his death is instructive to all Americans that you are not healthy enough to endure the very hospitable conditions provided by the DPR Korea for severe criminals. It is my wish that Americans overthrown their oppressive and lying government, and cease to support transgressions against foreign governments and their peoples.

Some of them do hold both opinions at the same time. I made my post thinking of them because the opinions of the liberals LARPing as socialists and anarchists is not even worth considering tbh

That's fine thats pretty much close to my own opinion. The people of North Korea will one day dispose of the Kim family without the help of the neocons LARPing as leftists both in the media and ITT.

kek

sad!

Where the fuck do you think you are?

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Most Americans don't even know how many US Presidents share ancestors. It's pretty baffling when you stumble across that and mentioning it will get you mocked to no end by the serious educated Americans, even though the evidence is rock-solid and accepted by normal historians, who then proceed to never talk about it again.

But, if he moves to North Korea, how could he possibly get AIDS there? I guess this is another supply failure of totalitarian states :(

And how do you obtain means of production with that?

@everybody in this thread: Stop being mean to the guy who doesn't know what a broom is, else his revenge will be inventing the broomero with wifi.

Amerilards die, i laff
No tears for burgers

nihlism isn't about being unhappy. it's about doing whatever the fuck you want since there is really no end "goal", "higher humanity", etc.

All that shit is spooks.

Just do what you like, you can get rid of whoever wants to master over you.

i don't even know why he decided to go to NK. i guess all the cool kids are doing it

CASUS BELLI

CIA asset. He's probably in Manila enjoying mai tais while waiting for his next assignment. Stooges.

Am I supposed to be surprised? That place seems like a fucking nightmare and everyone is too afraid to tell that kid what's really going on in the world because he has nukes and a statue of his grandfather that people worship like Jesus.

I love that it's a tragedy when a country's person dies in another country for thinking they can act like they're in their homeland under their homeland's jurisdiction and laws, except when an immigrant does this shit it becomes a Facebook profile-pic-filter support fest.

death to amerifats

unfathomable

Isn't the KPD banned?

Are you the person who runs the YouTube channel "stimmekoreas"?

The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai.

thanks for checking in, Un

Part of the 2+4 contracts during the German reunification was to legalize the KPD.

lol no

Otto is israeli as you all know.

Is there any proof that's actually him?

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well he did admit to doing it

Any proof that he wasn't beaten into admitting it?

Adding on to that: like he wasn't just beaten or tortured or whatever until he just admitted to it even though he didn't do it just so they could stop?

This. Look for him to reappear after America has conquered NK.

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I want to unironically visit NK.

This guy just fucking had to be ironic about it.

Is there even any proof he took the poster? NK lies constantly so I'm not inclined to believe he even committed the crime he's accused of.

You vermin are the cancer that killed the left.

check the video in which he confesses, it's obvious they forced him to do it.
not that it matters anyways, jailtime for a poster is clinically retarded. i have no idea what the fuck they were trying to prove.

The "ackchyually, real socialism has never been tried" crew of dykes and twinks has done more harm to the radical left than any DPRK apologist.

based norks kill a jew
im 100% behind them on this

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You'll get there Nazi, I believe in you.

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prove that the ongoing existence of the DPRK isn't a CIA psy-op to poison the well against socialism

(because it is)

time goes on but some things never change
western lib lefties are still butthurt about SU only now they're projecting its image on DPRK
any practical endeavour in implementing socialism is bound to be a dirty business, and dirty is bad for PR, especially in debates with fellow libshits

different times, same shit

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This pepe edit is so bad I thought it was a joke about him being dead and therefore discolored

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The Roo made a video about it

youtu.be/W4F4rbIlvIg

You're running on some idealism if you think that because a flat majority of people would vote for a certain representative that their reign is legitimate. De Gaulle admitted after 1945 that had legitimate elections been held in Vichy France, Petain would probably have won. Bourgeois democracy simply reflects the dominant ideology, not the will or class interests of the majority.

yet another poor soul who died

due to communism

Has Cockshott ever explicitly called himself ML? I've read excerpts of Towards a New Socialism, and in chapter 13 especially he rejects vanguardism and democratic centralism

wait, are you sikhybanter on reddit? you two make the exact same retarded tankie arguments based on unaltered soviet propaganda

The spectre strikes again!

honestly democratic centralism outside anything but the civil war is retarded as fuck. just an excuse to shut down internal enemies.
get your shit together.

Yeah I agree it just seems that DC is a vital piece of ML ideology, and Cockshott literally calls it a "dead end"

best argument a tank flair has made in this thread

Why the fuck is this the first time I'm hearing about this?

Roo thinks he tried to hang himself

youtu.be/UlaNiidJo_8

of course he does