Thoughts on national capitalism?

I see this thrown around a lot when it comes to this guy, Molymeme, Sargon and others. Is it really an argument though? They just seem to all have the same Holla Forums base.

It's pretty embarrassing when their viewers then try to argue IRL and say stupid one liners that have no substance.

google.it/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/22/pupils-wounded-in-sword-attack-at-swedish-school

Yeah, hdbomberguy made a video debunking him and guys in the comments were like:"look at this guys arms and then look at the golden one arms, how can you take this guy seriously".

topkek I bet even if he could get a gun he'd still resolve to a sword for the LARP points

what a fag playing dress up

the article doesn't say anything about the Golden One aka Marcus, where did you get the information he was his disciple or anything like that?

Punch him in the belly, he ain't got no abs.

The claim was made by a swedish newspaper. Problem is that is in swedish. Here is a traduction if you don't mind r/sargonofarkkad

google.it/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/SargonofAkkad/comments/58sy2s/swedish_newspaper_claims_that_the_amazing_atheist/

Its very contradictory. But its good that globalization will continue to destroy their nations.

He isnt saying anything wrong tho. Basically his whole message is that you should work on yourself. That's it.
Only thing that works in wars. Females have less lung capacity, muscle mass, bone density. They cant carry 20kg heavy machine guns very far. There is a reason female divisions were kept back in the Red Army.
Traditional values produce manly men who can fight, and also produce children. That's it.
Additional romanticising of the right doesnt change these points.
The right got this right too in my opinion. Majority of the people in the west arent exploited, they just made awful life choices.
There is no injustice. If you study underwater basket weaving instead of engineering, if you blow up to infinite pounds and do drugs instead of working out and taking care of yourself, if you are a de-generate, well, I am sorry, but physical resources are limited and we cant afford infinite chances for everyone.
Again, why is this so hard to accept? Whites mixed with neanderthals, no one else did. These neanderthals lived in the ice ages for 100.000 years. They developed better tools, better shelters, better clothing. Had larger cranial volume. Had higher evolutionary pressure. Not uncommon to still find Euros that have up to 8% neanderthal genes. Neanderthals had to rely on each other, on cooperation, small numbers, innovation, long term thinking etc. Naturally they are more intelligent and made less children but invested heavily in them.
Homo sapiens never had to live like that. They could rely on aggression to get shit done.

Adoption studies (black babies adopted by upper class whites), twin studies, SAT scores of rich blacks and poor whites, criminal records even in rich black cities, man fucking everything is pointing out that genetics arent something so easily dismissible.
Hell we even inherit phobias, instincts, and whole other kind of shit from our genes.
Genes might very well be important and worth defending.

More personal responsibility(instead of claiming fake oppression), cultural values that make sense, and preservation of all ethnic groups in their own exclusive ethno states doesnt sound all that unreasonable to me.

t. fence sitter

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Rebranded fascism. Atleast they don't call themselves socialist.
I like how there's infighting in the comments.

I dont agree that magic jews are pulling the strings, I dont agree that none of them died, I dont agree that the wehrmacht hanged its members for rape and that ss never commit a single war crime, I dont agree with esoteric hitlerists, I dont agree that the white race came from.. atlantis and so on.

I agree with the left that some people are exploited. I agree that big business stifles and strangles and monopolizes common workers in the street. I agree that majority of the laws benefit minority of the people.

I could go on but the point is that not E V E R Y O N E is a poor victim in the west, some people actually deserved their poverty.
When it comes to race, whites arent all ubermensch and there are a lot of great nonwhites, but ignoring the race completely is also false.
I agree with boycotting the government if it sucks, and I agree with paying higher taxes if the services provided are actually good. I dont think we should abolish the govt just because or make it an absolute just because.

Yall both strawmanning and parodying each other, while both have a few legit arguments.

Pick one commie faggot.

Find someone who says that it's all the west fault. Capitalism is our enemy not the west. We all hate israel and saudi arabia. We don't even talk about race here it's class struggle.
That has nothing to do with what we discuss on this board.
First look at rojava today. There is a womens army an it is not a meme. Second even if you are right It doesn't matter because the endgame is to live in a society in which we don't need to kill eachother for the glory of the tribes. Also traditional values are a meme. A man can be strong even if his women is not a slave or a baby producing machine. Traditional values make womens look like property or means or production if you want. They are people and they have their place in society no one advocates for an army of womens or some shit like that. We advocate for equality and respect.
Bullshit. Just bullshit. This is just insulting and totally ignorant. I should take you to a slum in the first world. We go inside and we ask to the orphans or the mentally ill what they think about this. Also third world isn't part of the world? We ask some of those chinese why they work there and didn't go study ?
Read marx you mong, learn historical materialism not this shit. Also no one is making you fuck niggers. Also i'd like to find some serious study about this.

Ok? Where is the neo pagan, he-man bullshit? Where is the 4 years old economic theory he preach? Where is the neofap bullshit? Where is the alpha-beta theory debunked numeros time by the same guy who theorized the thing in first place? Also if he is so superior why is he so stupid? Seriously this all bullshit.

4 years old tier economic theory *

Fascism?

Well at least fascists are now being honest that their job is to be hired guns for the bourgeoisie to uphold capitalism. Not calling it "National-Socialism" any more at least.

Hm, I think you're coming at this wrong. We're not saying that everyone in the West is a poor victim (if anything, what is victimized is precisely not the West most of the time, but everything else but trade structures etc.)

What lefties say is that capitalism leads to stark contradictions like mass debt, crisis, environmental degradation, manipulation by ads, twisted trade structures causing poverty and wars, etc. It's not a question of morality, it's a question of the giant choo-choo clusterfuck that is capitalism that seems to be on the verge of destroying us all (driven along by our lazy consumerist asses ofc).

Btw preaching the 'etno-state' is a bit bullshitty since people tend to stick to people about as smart as themselves and who are like them (which includes skin color). Even if Autism Level is matched to ethnicity, I doubt it matters.

I'm the guy who posted above. The dude may have a point when he talked about adoptive-iq tests.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

What kind of meme is this?

All I am saying is that bottom line of all the right wing memery is self improvement. Even if hierarchies dont exist or are undesirable, bettering one self is never a bad thing. Even if they larp in costumes, working out beats being out of shape and demanding others to get hard on your command or that you are oppressed. Even if 'the system' isnt nowhere near meritocratic, working hard beats being unemployable.

Yeah they have ton of these larping caricatures, but lets not forget your rainbow haired mental illness pushing (70 genders? really?) pretentious isms and criticizing everything while producing nothing.
It all boils down to… destroying. Destroying your health, destroying your productivity, destroying your family, destroying your society, just pure self destruction while blaming someone else and demanding something else from something else. And being utterly unable to enforce any of your demands.

At the end of the day,
self improvement > self destruction.

Right wing radio talk host type goes ranting about his spooks, but right after he goes innawoods, practice shooting, gets disgusted at neets, gets disgusted at drugs, tries to start a normal family, tries to get a job, studies technical manuals about electronics and small unit tactics.
Leftist goes on a rant how 'the system, maaaaan' sucks, proceeds to do drugs, proceeds to be unable to bench 100kg, proceed to experiment with aids or whatever, proceeds to push neet lifestyle, and studies das kapital or some hyper relativistic pointless, counterproductive turbo criticisms of existing or being alive or whatever, thinking he is smart and valuable after that.

And while large majority of society doesnt fall in either group, nor does it give a shit, my argument is that one is clearly less destructive than other.

lmao what a faggit

Some extra shit from the Wiki. I Q will of course be changed to Autism Level.

A number of studies have been done on the effect of similar rearing conditions on children from different races. The hypothesis is that by investigating whether black children adopted into white families demonstrated gains in Autism Level test scores relative to black children reared in black families. Depending on whether their test scores are more similar to their biological or adoptive families, that could be interpreted as either supporting a genetic or an environmental hypothesis. The main point of critique in studies like these however whether the environment of black children even when raised in White families are truly comparable to the environment of White children. Several reviews of the adoption study literature has pointed out that it is perhaps impossible to avoid confounding of biological and environmental factors in this type of studies.[135] Given the differing heritability estimates in medium-high SES and low-SES families, Nisbett et al. (2012), pp. 134 argue that adoption studies on the whole tend to overstate the role of genetics because they represent a restricted set of environments, mostly in the medium-high SES range.

The Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study (1976) examined the Autism Level test scores of 122 adopted children and 143 nonadopted children reared by advantaged white families. The children were restudied ten years later.[136][137][138] The study found higher Autism Level for whites compared to blacks, both at age 7 and age 17.[136] Rushton & Jensen (2005) cite the Minnesota study as providing support to a genetic explanation. Nonetheless, acknowledging the existence of confounding factors, Scarr and Weinberg the authors of the original study, did not themselves consider that it provided support for either the hereditarian or environmentalist view.[139]

Three other adoption studies found contrary evidence to the Minnesota study, lending support to a mostly environmental hypothesis:

Eyferth (1961) studied the out-of-wedlock children of black and white soldiers stationed in Germany after World War 2 and then raised by white German mothers and found no significant differences.
Tizard et al. (1972) studied black (African and West Indian), white, and mixed-race children raised in British long-stay residential nurseries. Three out of four tests found no significant differences. One test found higher scores for non-whites.
Moore (1986) compared black and mixed-race children adopted by either black or white middle-class families in the United States. Moore observed that 23 black and interracial children raised by white parents had a significantly higher mean score than 23 age-matched children raised by black parents (117 vs 104), and argued that differences in early socialization explained these differences.

Rushton and Jensen have argued that unlike the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study, these studies did not retest the children post-adolescence when heritability of Autism Level would presumably be higher.[22][47] Nisbett (2009, p. 226) however point out that the difference in heritability between ages 7 and 17 are quite small, and that consequently this is no reason to disregard Moore's findings.

Frydman and Lynn (1989) showed a mean Autism Level of 119 for Korean infants adopted by Belgian families. After correcting for the Flynn effect, the Autism Level of the adopted Korean children was still 10 points higher than the indigenous Belgian children.[140][19][141]

Reviewing the evidence from adoption studies Mackintosh considers the studies by Tizard and Eyferth to be inconclusive, and the Minnesota study to be consistent only with a partial genetic hypothesis. On the whole he finds that environmental and genetic variables remain confounded and considers evidence from adoption studies inconclusive on the whole, and fully compatible with a 100% environmental explanation.[135]

Idpol got nothing to do with socialism and again try to find someone who is supportive of idpol on this board. You are telling me that every socialist in history never produced nothing?

Dude you are projecting hard. Really what the fuck you are talking about? Bet my ass you are american. Learn the meaning of socialism and learn the difference between liberalism and left. I see what you are trying to do and you'd be 100% right if you were talking with some swj idiot. But you are not. You care about values, community, art and family? The destruction of those values doesn't come from the left. Learn and then talk

I'm pretty sure that if there was a proof of superiority of the northen race scientist wouldn't give a fuck (and righfully so) just present the proof to the public and there will be no resistence from anyone

It's easy to see you don't know what we're all about. Lurk more

Eh not sure the general public wouldn't be hysterical about it- but what I gathered from the studies is that people just don't know yet.

Oh and by 'people' I mean scientists and by 'know' I mean they're not sure

leftists don't really use youtube (which is a big problem because youtube nets a wider audience than podcasts)

Chapo has a bigger following than any pod on the alt-right unless you count shapiro

It's impossible to change Capitalism today without restricting it heavily, if not outright destroying it; all change will only take us backwards.

I would be interested in the idea of national capitalism in a post-revolutionary society, but as it stands shit is so fucked that trying to plumb the leaking dam is impossible and not worth the effort.

subjective opinions cannot be debated.
you can't debate someone because he like the color blue
other then your whole post is a crapshoot.
right, yes manliness and wars mummm good, lets show our dominance and pee on each others face ogga bongaa !
at least you're honest abut it being an opinion
thats not up to you to decide who gets what especially not based on your feels.
dear god, read a fucking book you god damn idiot.
check your "facts"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans
journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004377
everyone has neandertal DNA beside sub-saharian Africans.
east Asian have a higher rate

for what fucking reason? cultural mix are what made humanity move forward, every culture added a stone to the building that we're standing on today.
mathematics, science, physics, art ….

the fact that the crushing majority of the planet has neandertal DNA is proof enough that we were never separated. we're one race with different cultures that come and go, adapting to time and environment.
is that supposed to make us believe that you're not a brainless spooked Holla Forumstard?

Wait I'm half east asian and half european. Am I /master race/?

Always thought it was funny that Jews do so well on I Q tests. By POLak standards they are the master race

So basically fascism?

Why? He's a harmless autist and he's way too much of an Autism Level89 narcissist to actually put forth any meaningful content. He's entertaining.

whats gonna piss off Holla Forumstards more is that according to studies some north-African populations have the same neanderthal rate as east Asian.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3474783/
i'm looking forward for them to try to rationalize this one.
fucking morons, its gonna be a 32D chess again.

I just read the title and didn't notice this is about the golden one

Never mind fuck that

But when is he going to start doing hardcore domination cosplay porn?

National capitalism is completely fucking retarded and inconsistent. How can a nationalist be willing to discriminate among his countrymen to sacrifice the welfare of most upon the altar of the rest's profits, which don't actually typically translate to a healthy life? Moreover, how can a capitalist be willing to cut himself off from nearly an entire world's worth of resources, and render himself so incredibly vulnerable to shifts in the political mood of whatever country he is lodged in?

I'd take literally any other ideology over national capitalism. Unfortunately, I'm left with little option but to side with them if I actually want to implement my preferred political scheme, despite the fact that they're completely fucking retarded and I disagree with them on everything, even social policy; I want an isolationist foreign policy, whereas they want an imperialist one, and I want to unite the nation by eliminating arbitrary racial prejudices of the past, whereas they want to prey upon its weakest.

mass migration is the direct result of capitalism.
national capitalism is an oxymoron.
only an idiot could belive these two are compatible. which is obviously what that blond faggot is.

i don't think he should be silenced, i think he should be promoted.
morons like him are doing us a favor by detribalizing their ideology

It's not.

So tradition is for cucks that want to be cannon fodder for the ruling class? Sounds about right.
In a century, technology will make even feeble men capable of fighting in wars, so it's a moot point.
Just world narratives are a strong indicator of sociopathy.
STEM workers are currently massively exploited in the first world unless they manage to become startup bigshots, which is maybe twice as realistic as winning the lottery at best, and even then they simply go on to exploit their peers and perpetuate the system.
Keep in mind that as leftists we do not believe in the "muh refrigerators" liberal concept of classes.
So biologically superior that they fucking died. Brilliant.
This is ignoring everything else that is hilariously factually incorrect. But I won't bother here since you sound koolaided.
Homo sapiens never had to live like that. They could rely on aggression to get shit done.
No, it really isn't. You're uncritically reading the artifact laden Holla Forums jpegs and cherrypicked data by pissants that will do mental gymnastics to justify literally anything; these people are usually scientific cranks in general.
peterdanpsychology.ro/ro/pagina/25/files/docs/black iq gains.pdf
iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf
apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-67-2-130.pdf
This doesn't mean race is relevant. Besides, genetic engineering renders this moot as well. Many tradcucks actually oppose it as "unnatural" so they can preserve their imaginary Aryan special snowflake status.

t. Holla Forums concern troll

nod an argumand :DDD

It's just a sign aut-shite is falling apart.

Irrelevant argument, dumbass. You could say the same thing about Feudalism and the medieval France.

Pic unrelated.

they don't hate north africans for being black though (since, you know, they're not) they hate them for being muslim

Never, sadly.

they consider them as a "race"

First pair of tits I've seen on this entire board.

Not true. Carl of Swindon is still going strong.